10L foldable water container Link

We use something very similar and they've lasted well. The only caveat is that they're difficult to fill in deep water. A few tripping partners have a special skill of pulling them back and forth through the water to fill them, but the rest of us get then 1/3 full by dunking them and then use a cup or something similar to fill the rest.

I use a 10L MSR dromedary to store filtered water at camp and the thing is tough as nails. It isn't nearly as cheap as those cheap looking plastic reservoirs, but it has a nice lid with a couple flow options and again is durable. You can also hang it!

https://www.rei.com/product/114828/msr-dromedary-bag-10-liters

I also use the MSR 10L dromedary. Very tough. Worth the price.

I don’t see why it wouldn’t. Our group has used a 20L bag for many trips. With just a bit of protection it will last.

Another 10L Dromedary user here...

jdoutdoors: "I use a 10L MSR dromedary to store filtered water at camp and the thing is tough as nails. It isn't nearly as cheap as those cheap looking plastic reservoirs, but it has a nice lid with a couple flow options and again is durable. You can also hang it!


https://www.rei.com/product/114828/msr-dromedary-bag-10-liters "

+1 for this, picked one up last year and can never see myself using anything else! Literally tough as nails, and can use the straps to hang in from a tree.

I would guess it would probably work for one trip, but I see absolutely no advantage in this over several good alternatives.

Shipping to Minnesota is free, but takes an estimated 30 days. And good luck with returns if not happy (buyer pays shipping). The $3.79 one shown is clear 2 liters - not that much water. Why not call stop by REI and buy a 2 liter Platypus for $12.95 (or $10.36 with a 20% deal)? That's not a big cost difference at all, and you know the Platypus will last and last. If you need more water, I've used these GSI collapsable water cubes for years and still use them in winter. They don't last forever, but I think I usually get 5-8 years on average, and they are $9.00 vs. $4.59 for the 10 liter one you listed on Ebay.

There are plenty of gear choices where I can understand wanting to save some money and not buy the best, but here we are talking about saving something like $6 or less. I'd also really prefer to spend my money supporting companies that have supported outdoor activities like GSI, Platypus, and REI rather than send my dollars to an unknown pop-up company in ShenZhen, China.

Savage Voyageur: "I don’t see why it wouldn’t. Our group has used a 20L bag for many trips. With just a bit of protection it will last. "

What brand, Savage? After giving up completely on the use-once-and-it-leaks 5 gal Reliance Fold-A-Carrier, our group is always looking for durable containers in the 5 gal/20L size that are easily filled out in the lake and easy to dispense water back in camp. So far, we have settled on the Innate Aqueduct Water Transporter. It's listed at 15L, but seems to hold more. We have two of them. They are almost perfect in every way, but a pricey item, could only find it from MEC in Canada, and now looks discontinued everywhere.

Savage Voyageur: "So far, we have settled on the Innate Aqueduct Water Transporter. It's listed at 15L, but seems to hold more. We have two of them. They are almost perfect in every way, but a pricey item, could only find it from MEC in Canada, and now looks discontinued everywhere.

I was lucky enough to find one of these several years ago. I removed the spigot and replaced it with a line connected to a Camel Back valve. The line extends into the bag and is attached to a screening filter to eliminate large particles that might be in the water. The valve is most frequently attached to a gravity water filter system. Turn on the valve and filtered water flows out the other end.

The top of the bag being open means that you can fill it with ease in the middle of the lake, hoist it into the canoe and then roll the top and clip it to make it water tight. Ready to move on to the next campsite ... open the top and dump the remaining contents is less than a second. Then it easily rolls up into a very small package. Perfect!!! If I could find another one, I'd buy it in an heart beat.

dd

Does the Dromedary bag have any other attachments for pouring, something like the plastic cubes that have a pour spicket/spout. Dromedary bag looks like everyone's dirty fingers touch the spout.

dentondoc: "

Savage Voyageur: "So far, we have settled on the Innate Aqueduct Water Transporter. It's listed at 15L, but seems to hold more. We have two of them. They are almost perfect in every way, but a pricey item, could only find it from MEC in Canada, and now looks discontinued everywhere.

I was lucky enough to find one of these several years ago. I removed the spigot and replaced it with a line connected to a Camel Back valve. The line extends into the bag and is attached to a screening filter to eliminate large particles that might be in the water. The valve is most frequently attached to a gravity water filter system. Turn on the valve and filtered water flows out the other end.

The top of the bag being open means that you can fill it with ease in the middle of the lake, hoist it into the canoe and then roll the top and clip it to make it water tight. Ready to move on to the next campsite ... open the top and dump the remaining contents is less than a second. Then it easily rolls up into a very small package. Perfect!!! If I could find another one, I'd buy it in an heart beat.

dd"

Dentondoc,

Is the line extending into the bag and pre-filter original or is that something you added? Can you describe your process a bit more and maybe share some pictures? I may be willing to sell an extra new Aqueduct bag I've got as a 'thank you' for your knowledge transfer. I may end up with as many as 3 extra if people are interested.

I like the Platypus 6L Water tank . Not as large but the ease of opening the top to fill instantaneously makes it easier to use than the Dromedary.

On the bag it says "Zip shut to secure. Invert to test". Bad advice.

Chuckles: "I may be willing to sell an extra new Aqueduct bag I've got as a 'thank you' for your knowledge transfer. I may end up with as many as 3 extra if people are interested. "

I'd throw myself in as interested in one of the 3 extra if it plays out that way!

schweady: "

Savage Voyageur: "I don’t see why it wouldn’t. Our group has used a 20L bag for many trips. With just a bit of protection it will last. "

What brand, Savage? After giving up completely on the use-once-and-it-leaks 5 gal Reliance Fold-A-Carrier, our group is always looking for durable containers in the 5 gal/20L size that are easily filled out in the lake and easy to dispense water back in camp. So far, we have settled on the Innate Aqueduct Water Transporter. It's listed at 15L, but seems to hold more. We have two of them. They are almost perfect in every way, but a pricey item, could only find it from MEC in Canada, and now looks discontinued everywhere.
"

This might not be the exact one but close. I thought that thing won’t make one trip, jet many trips later it’s still holding water. I called it a water bag, more of a container. With our groups of 4, 6, or 8 guys it takes some abuse. 5 gallon water container

I second the MSR Dromedarys, I have TWO of the 10 LITER dromedarys, one for dirty water and one for clean water. I hook the tubing for the gravity filter right up to the dirty dromedary. The previous writer is correct, they are tough as freaking nails. Well worth the 60 some dollars for each.

I have only one word to say, made and shipped from China.

campnfish: "Does the Dromedary bag have any other attachments for pouring, something like the plastic cubes that have a pour spicket/spout. Dromedary bag looks like everyone's dirty fingers touch the spout."

I have the previous version of the 10L Drom bag, so I can't say for sure if any changes to the opening/threads happened that would make this info out-dated, but as far as my previous-version 10L Drom is concerned, yes, there are other caps. It comes with the little flick-open spout thing, but you can also get a cap with a 1/4" nipple that you can attach tubing to. I'm also 99% sure you can get a cap with a spout that has a valve with a handle.

Here are some photos of my homemade gravity filter setup that uses a 12L collapsible bucket for dirty water, a 10L Drom bag for purified water, acrolene tubing and fittings from Kent systems, a Katadyn activated charcoal canister, and a 0.02 Sawyer purifier. As pictured, the setup can also filter directly into a Camelback as well.

campnfish: "Does the Dromedary bag have any other attachments for pouring, something like the plastic cubes that have a pour spicket/spout. Dromedary bag looks like everyone's dirty fingers touch the spout."

The large opening is the same size/thread as 1L Nalgene bottles, so I bet there are some accessories out there. The latest iteration cap has a little flick-open spout that barely lets any water out, so I never use it. That spout is in a larger cap which unscrews and lets out a generous amount of water. That screw is part of the main cap which also unscrews (to that Nalgene thread) which is how you attach gravity filters and whatnot. So, no worries about people's hands touching the place the water flows past if you don't use the tiny spout that isn't good for much in my mind anyway.

If it's just for filling a gravity filter, wouldn't a good plastic bag from a store work? I get that a typical grocery bag would fail with 1 gallon, but there are some stronger ones that should work.

Just use a pre-filter when transferring to the gravity filter input and there is no reason to go to the middle of the lake. Might depend on the time of year though.

Chuckles: "

dentondoc: "

Savage Voyageur: "So far, we have settled on the Innate Aqueduct Water Transporter. It's listed at 15L, but seems to hold more. We have two of them. They are almost perfect in every way, but a pricey item, could only find it from MEC in Canada, and now looks discontinued everywhere.

I was lucky enough to find one of these several years ago. I removed the spigot and replaced it with a line connected to a Camel Back valve. The line extends into the bag and is attached to a screening filter to eliminate large particles that might be in the water. The valve is most frequently attached to a gravity water filter system. Turn on the valve and filtered water flows out the other end.


The top of the bag being open means that you can fill it with ease in the middle of the lake, hoist it into the canoe and then roll the top and clip it to make it water tight. Ready to move on to the next campsite ... open the top and dump the remaining contents is less than a second. Then it easily rolls up into a very small package. Perfect!!! If I could find another one, I'd buy it in an heart beat.


dd"

Dentondoc,


Is the line extending into the bag and pre-filter original or is that something you added? Can you describe your process a bit more and maybe share some pictures? I may be willing to sell an extra new Aqueduct bag I've got as a 'thank you' for your knowledge transfer. I may end up with as many as 3 extra if people are interested.
"

Hey Chuckles,

Not to rush you or jump in front of dentondoc but I'm looking for projects so figured I'd reach out. Feel free to email me - yours wasn't listed so I'm posting here.

I have plans to do essentially this as well. Build a gravity setup with the Aqueduct pre-filtered into tubing to my sawyer squeeze and then out into an attached 10L MSR dromedary. If you're willing to part with one of the Aqueducts, I'm happy to share the whole process with you and could probably even trade a lot of the materials if you're in the area.

Cheers

AirPrex: "

Chuckles: "

dentondoc: "

Savage Voyageur: "So far, we have settled on the Innate Aqueduct Water Transporter. It's listed at 15L, but seems to hold more. We have two of them. They are almost perfect in every way, but a pricey item, could only find it from MEC in Canada, and now looks discontinued everywhere.

I was lucky enough to find one of these several years ago. I removed the spigot and replaced it with a line connected to a Camel Back valve. The line extends into the bag and is attached to a screening filter to eliminate large particles that might be in the water. The valve is most frequently attached to a gravity water filter system. Turn on the valve and filtered water flows out the other end.



The top of the bag being open means that you can fill it with ease in the middle of the lake, hoist it into the canoe and then roll the top and clip it to make it water tight. Ready to move on to the next campsite ... open the top and dump the remaining contents is less than a second. Then it easily rolls up into a very small package. Perfect!!! If I could find another one, I'd buy it in an heart beat.



dd"

Dentondoc,



Is the line extending into the bag and pre-filter original or is that something you added? Can you describe your process a bit more and maybe share some pictures? I may be willing to sell an extra new Aqueduct bag I've got as a 'thank you' for your knowledge transfer. I may end up with as many as 3 extra if people are interested.
"

Hey Chuckles,


Not to rush you or jump in front of dentondoc but I'm looking for projects so figured I'd reach out. Feel free to email me - yours wasn't listed so I'm posting here.


I have plans to do essentially this as well. Build a gravity setup with the Aqueduct pre-filtered into tubing to my sawyer squeeze and then out into an attached 10L MSR dromedary. If you're willing to part with one of the Aqueducts, I'm happy to share the whole process with you and could probably even trade a lot of the materials if you're in the area.


Cheers"

No problem. Dentondoc sent me some more details via email. You're on the list for an aqueduct. I'm just seeing if anyone else in interested. I don't know shipping costs, but they'll run ~$20 plus shipping. There is also a variant that doubles as a solar shower which has a bail handle and a tube that exits which might make things easier.



Innate Shower

PortageKeeper: "10L foldable water container Link "

Saw this today and thought this might be a higher-quality, similar priced item.

Swiss Military Water Bladder

Chuckles: "No problem. Dentondoc sent me some more details via email. You're on the list for an aqueduct. I'm just seeing if anyone else in interested. I don't know shipping costs, but they'll run ~$20 plus shipping. There is also a variant that doubles as a solar shower which has a bail handle and a tube that exits which might make things easier.



Innate Shower "

Oh awesome! I appreciate the update - that all sounds good to me.

Hello all
I got tired last year of running back and forth to the lake filling up the platypus bag. It seemed that 10 minutes later it was empty and needed refilling. Additional frustration is that it's not that easy to fill that platypus bag in a river or shallow lake shore. You have to swing it back and forth and back and forth in the water. So I decided to take matters into my own hands. I needed a larger bladder. I knew that the SealLine Baja bags were very durable so I decided to start based on one of those. I got a 20 l Baja bag and the spigot and hose from an old Camelback knockoff. It seems that most of these Camelback type units have the same valve disconnect system... I got some vinyl patches from Amazon which are about 3 in discs of PVC fabric.. and proceeded to start carving things up. I carefully cut a small hole in the Baja bag corresponding to the size of the disconnect valve from the camelback.

I then took the Camelback bladder and sliced out the disconnect valve from the rest of the bladder. I left about 2 to 3 inches of the bladder around the piece I removed.

I traced the shape of the disconnect onto the Baja bag and using a sharp exacto blade, I cut out a hole corresponding to the profile of the disconnect.

I used some 60 grit sandpaper to really roughen up the surface of the Camelback material and also the Baja bag material on the inside near the hole, cleaned everything with denatured alcohol, and then used cement to glue the two together. Here's the rub. The cement that's recommended for this, is merely a contact cement. I think it's called HC-66. But it doesn't work at all. The only thing that really worked was aqua seal FD with the curing agent or accelerant. This is a two-part aqua seal that you mix up and then use similar to epoxy. The stuff really works. So I mixed this up and adhered the disconnect with its attached piece of camelback bladder material, to the inside of the Baja back and had the disconnect protruding on the outside. Be advised that this is not necessarily easy you have to hold the piece in place using your fingers while it cures.. which can take 10 minutes or so. So you need to ensure that the pieces contact each other all the way around and you're kind of juggling your fingers to apply pressure and make sure that the adhesive cures while the two pieces are in good contact with each other. I found it beneficial to use a slice of pool noodle or some rigid foam to act as a support while applying pressure during the glue-up.

Next I cut the appropriate hole corresponding to the shape of the disconnect valve in one of the 3-inch vinyl patches. I then cemented this on the outside of the bag in a similar manner.

Next I used some food grade silicone to seal that gap on the outside.
I added some NRS D-ring patches to the outside of the bag to enable it to be lashed down to a kayak deck or a canoe.

I got a longer silicone hose from Amazon and took a kitchen sprayer and put it on the end. I can attach the sprayer to the disconnect and have a convenient shower or dishwashing sprayer.

Additionally, since the Baja bag is black, it absorbs solar energy and warms up during the day so I get a solar shower.

Because the disconnect system is identical between platypus and camelback, I can use the Baja bag bladder as a large " dirty bag" and use the platypus hose to run it to the clean Platypus bag.

Now I can fill the 20 L bag once and have it last an entire day for meals and filling water bottles. You just have to hang it high enough so that the gravity gives you some decent pressure. I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out. In addition we use it as a beer cooler for the first day. As we are leaving civilization we can get a six pack and maybe a bottle of wine and put it in there with a bag of ice. So we can have cold beverages the first day at least. After that, it's a water bag. This is a convenience on lakes and rivers but I'm thinking about doing some salt water coastal kayaking and of course you have to carry all of your own water for as long as you're out. So this seems to be a pretty good solution for that situation.

I love gear that's double purpose. I love gear that's triple purpose even more.

I think if I were to do it again, instead of having the disconnect valve be about 1 in or so from the bottom of the Baja bag, I would put it right on the bottom of the bag. I thought that it would be beneficial to have it be a little bit above the bottom and thus allow sediment to collect at the bottom instead of running out the hose. But that doesn't seem to be a problem.

The other thing that I tried was to put a clip onto the side of the bag to hold the sprayer. The idea was that the sprayer would stay in position facing downward and would make it easy to take a shower. The obvious problem, that I failed to see, is that the sprayer is now hung higher than the outlet of the disconnect hose. So.. that doesn't work. The clip to hold the sprayer is an accessory for zodiac type inflatable boats. It's a vinyl molded oar holder that can be cemented to the outside of the zodiac. It belongs on the BOTTOM of the bag.

I still have to figure out some system to adequately hang the bag in the long-term, because just tying the rope around the dry bag handles is not going to work long-term. Those bags are not meant to be suspended with a lot of weight from those roll up handles.

I'd be happy to post some pictures but it seems to be pretty difficult to do that here in an organized manner. If anyone wants details or pics just email me.

I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, as your profile indicates you’re located alongside the Granite Headed State:

Beverage cans and bottles are strictly prohibited in the BWCAW. There is no quicker way to draw unwanted attention from a USFS backcountry ranger over here. Except felling trees to make a bushcraft shelter, I suppose …

gravelroad: "I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, as your profile indicates you’re located alongside the Granite Headed State:


Beverage cans and bottles are strictly prohibited in the BWCAW. There is no quicker way to draw unwanted attention from a USFS backcountry ranger over here. Except felling trees to make a bushcraft shelter, I suppose …"

In this case I am not talking about BW....more about base camping in other locations.

We bring a Reliance 2-1/2 gallon collapsible water jug on every trip.

Easy to collect from lake water/flowing streams with an open top: MSR gravity filter 10L

Edited: I had not read your post on your DIY for dirty water bladder. Good for you to improvise. Now, on to how do we hang it?