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Unas10
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05/05/2020 05:43AM
Are there any first hand reports of police interaction with out-of-state license plates?
 
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WhiteWolf
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05/05/2020 05:53AM
None first hand. I have had to travel back n forth between MPLS and DSM since March due to work. No issues but have been provided proper paperwork by the FAA in case. Traveling I-35 since March (compared to the 100's of other times ) I have not noticed any decrease in out of state plates (per ratio) near the border or even deeper into each state, just a lot less traffic overall. The non first hand issues I have heard of have came from someone speeding or a moving infraction and than get the whole nine yards. I don't think you can "legally" be pulled over for "just" having out of state plates unless there are checkpoints at the border but I'am no lawyer.
 
nofish
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05/05/2020 08:42AM
From everything I've heard the only way you're going to get scolded for not staying at home is if they have to pull you over for some other infraction. Then they might start asking some questions about the nature of your travel.

There are way too many people that move across state lines and don't change their license plates and also too many people with legit reasons for traveling like WW mentioned. Law enforcement would run themselves ragged pulling them all over.
 
Grandma L
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05/06/2020 03:00PM
The local police and state troopers are all over the Hwy. 169 corridor from the Twin cities to Mille Lacs and on north! They are handing out tickets for speeding and not giving much "grace" for being even a couple of mph over the limit.
 
deepwater
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05/06/2020 03:51PM
Grandma L: "The local police and state troopers are all over the Hwy. 169 corridor from the Twin cities to Mille Lacs and on north! They are handing out tickets for speeding and not giving much "grace" for being even a couple of mph over the limit. "

Seems awfully anecdotal...
 
Bushpilot
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05/06/2020 04:06PM
I see the number of speeders in the state doing over 100 mph has tripled.
 
05/06/2020 09:31PM
Bushpilot: "I see the number of speeders in the state doing over 100 mph has tripled."

Yes I’ve heard the same and traffic deaths due to speeding are up too. Probably why the crackdown on speeding others reported.

T
 
mutz
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05/07/2020 07:41AM
I think the police have more important things to worry about than stopping a car with out of state plates. More importantly don’t believe the story that your buddies, sister in laws cousin from Wisconsin got a ticket for driving in Minnesota unless you have the ticket in your hand.
 
KevinEleven
 
05/07/2020 11:57AM
This is the thing I am most concerned about, and now the DNR says you should only go travel as far and back as a tank of gas.
 
OCDave
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05/07/2020 12:05PM
timatkn: "Bushpilot: "I see the number of speeders in the state doing over 100 mph has tripled."


Yes I’ve heard the same and traffic deaths due to speeding are up too. Probably why the crackdown on speeding others reported.


T"


I would be really surprised if traffic deaths were up considering the dramatic decrease in teenagers (and adults for that matter) texting and driving currently on the roads. Would you share your source for your information. Note: I have none for my spectualtion, only that I am considered an essential worker and on my commute to work, traffic is a paltry fraction of normal.

Edit: Wow, Your are correct. Minnesota Department of Public Safety

What a surprise!
 
nofish
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05/07/2020 01:01PM
I'm guessing the lack of traffic has given people the courage to speed. When traffic is heavy it obviously forces people to slow down. There may be more accidents when traffic is heavy but I've got to assume the slower speeds keep fatalities to a minimum. Now without as many other cars to naturally limit speeds people are speeding up and the accidents that do occur increase in severity.

Back to the original question as long as you are driving the limit and obeying traffic laws I highly doubt an officer is going to put themselves at risk to pull you over just because you have an out of state plate while the stay at home orders are in place. Just not worth it to them.

 
KarlBAndersen1
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05/09/2020 12:38PM
mutz: "I think the police have more important things to worry about than stopping a car with out of state plates. "

And why would out-of-state plates be of concern to anyone?? That's some of the biggest BS behind all of the "stay at home" crap. Firstly, the virus doesn't recognize any state lines. Travelling away from home does NOT increase any likelihood of disease transmission.
As well, to give it to someone you first MUST HAVE it! If I don't have it, what difference does it make if I drive a thousand miles from home? None - that's how much.
People have been indoctrinated into thinking that their degree of threat to other people increases the further from home they travel.
What a crock.
 
Bearpath9
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05/09/2020 12:54PM
Since I am one of the people who usually drive the speed limit (that's me in the old Ford pick-up in the far right lane) it is pretty hard to tell if people are going excessively over the limit, since I generally get passed all the time. The roads are more open nowadays, and I suppose a few folks can't resist the opportunity to open it up and fly. I have seen a few (briefly) who had to be doing over 100.
 
mutz
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05/09/2020 03:58PM
KarlBAndersen1: "mutz: "I think the police have more important things to worry about than stopping a car with out of state plates. "


And why would out-of-state plates be of concern to anyone?? That's some of the biggest BS behind all of the "stay at home" crap. Firstly, the virus doesn't recognize any state lines. Travelling away from home does NOT increase any likelihood of disease transmission.
As well, to give it to someone you first MUST HAVE it! If I don't have it, what difference does it make if I drive a thousand miles from home? None - that's how much.
People have been indoctrinated into thinking that their degree of threat to other people increases the further from home they travel.
What a crock."


Hopefully you didn’t think that I thought out of state plates meant anything. I’m in total agreement with you. I laugh twice every day as I watch my indoctrinated next door neighbors walk laps around a 200 X100 ft back yard with masks on because they have been told to stay home.
 
bobbernumber3
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05/09/2020 07:01PM
KarlBAndersen1: "
As well, to give it to someone you first MUST HAVE it! If I don't have it, ...
What a crock."


How do you know if you have COVID or don't?
 
schweady
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05/09/2020 07:14PM
mutz: "...I laugh twice every day as I watch my indoctrinated next door neighbors walk laps around a 200 X100 ft back yard with masks on because they have been told to stay home."
Not knowing your neighborhood, I tend to agree that their sheltering routine is being taken to an extreme level. That said, smug shaming of those who feel that they are doing the right thing is always uncalled-for. I wear a cloth mask to the grocery store. Laughable? Some in my blood red town think so. I guess they don't know that I'm trying to do them a favor.
 
05/09/2020 11:06PM
KarlBAndersen1: "mutz: "I think the police have more important things to worry about than stopping a car with out of state plates. "


And why would out-of-state plates be of concern to anyone?? That's some of the biggest BS behind all of the "stay at home" crap. Firstly, the virus doesn't recognize any state lines. Travelling away from home does NOT increase any likelihood of disease transmission.
As well, to give it to someone you first MUST HAVE it! If I don't have it, what difference does it make if I drive a thousand miles from home? None - that's how much.
People have been indoctrinated into thinking that their degree of threat to other people increases the further from home they travel.
What a crock."


So how the hell do you think it got here from China?
 
bobbernumber3
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05/10/2020 05:25AM
mutz: "...I laugh twice every day as I watch my indoctrinated next door neighbors walk laps around a 200 X100 ft back yard with masks on because they have been told to stay home."
Do you know your neighbors underlying health conditions? There may be a very good reason for their caution.

I used to chuckle at overweight folks at the gym. Till my wife pointed put "maybe they have already lost 50 pounds". Same with slow joggers in the neighborhood... maybe they're finishing a 15 mile run.

Cut your neighbors some slack.

 
mutz
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05/10/2020 09:34AM
bobbernumber3: "mutz: "...I laugh twice every day as I watch my indoctrinated next door neighbors walk laps around a 200 X100 ft back yard with masks on because they have been told to stay home."
Do you know your neighbors underlying health conditions? There may be a very good reason for their caution.


I used to chuckle at overweight folks at the gym. Till my wife pointed put "maybe they have already lost 50 pounds". Same with slow joggers in the neighborhood... maybe they're finishing a 15 mile run.


Cut your neighbors some slack.


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They are mid thirties good health, go to work every day, and I joked with from the deck we all laughed. My point was the following like sheep, standing on my dock yesterday a guy went past in his boat wearing a mask, people wearing masks while driving alone. If these people were told to wear a mask in the house they would starve to death because you can’t eat with a mask on. Common sense people, common sense.
 
MooseTrack
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05/10/2020 10:08AM
The Stay at Home "order" is only a recommendation and not a law. It is perfectly legal to travel, even across state borders. We are suggesting customers take the utmost precautions and have made adjustments to our cleaning and checkin proceedures.
 
05/10/2020 10:26AM
MooseTrack: "The Stay at Home "order" is only a recommendation and not a law. It is perfectly legal to travel, even across state borders. We are suggesting customers take the utmost precautions and have made adjustments to our cleaning and checkin proceedures."

MooseTrack, what is the feeling about tourism up in your area this summer? I know you can’t speak for everyone, but wondering what the vibe is. Hope nobody from the cities comes up? We need people to come upon to survive? I suspect it is somewhere in the middle...If someone shows up coughing I suspect people up there won’t be too happy :)

T
 
illini79ps
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05/10/2020 10:42AM
timatkn: "MooseTrack: "The Stay at Home "order" is only a recommendation and not a law. It is perfectly legal to travel, even across state borders. We are suggesting customers take the utmost precautions and have made adjustments to our cleaning and checkin proceedures."


MooseTrack, what is the feeling about tourism up in your area this summer? I know you can’t speak for everyone, but wondering what the vibe is. Hope nobody from the cities comes up? We need people to come upon to survive? I suspect it is somewhere in the middle...If someone shows up coughing I suspect people up there won’t be too happy :)


T"


I would second the motion on asking this question, but I would add the following detail: the people coming in vast numbers to BWCA west area via Ely are from much farther than the Twin Cities. Our IL group of 8 goes to LaTourells' every year week 6 (mid June), their bigger cabin holding 10 is also an Illinois group, and very few of the terrific guests and occasionally canoeists I get to chat with with are from MN. Out of staters are going to bring the money (we need gas, some fresh food, etc in Ely), but also the virus. And forget worrying about someone coughing, its the 25-50% asymptomatic carriers that are the real issue. What do the people in places like Ely and Grand Marais really want this summer?
 
bobbernumber3
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05/10/2020 05:40PM
mutz: "bobbernumber3: "mutz: "...I laugh twice every day as I watch my indoctrinated next door neighbors walk laps around a 200 X100 ft back yard with masks on because they have been told to stay home."
Do you know your neighbors underlying health conditions? There may be a very good reason for their caution.



I used to chuckle at overweight folks at the gym. Till my wife pointed put "maybe they have already lost 50 pounds". Same with slow joggers in the neighborhood... maybe they're finishing a 15 mile run.



Cut your neighbors some slack.



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They are mid thirties good health, go to work every day, and I joked with from the deck we all laughed. My point was the following like sheep, standing on my dock yesterday a guy went past in his boat wearing a mask, people wearing masks while driving alone. If these people were told to wear a mask in the house they would starve to death because you can’t eat with a mask on. Common sense people, common sense."


Consider that the mask while traveling alone is a great reminder to avoid touching your face. Again, you don't know their underlying health situation. You already seem to know they are followers, but you don't. Cut 'em some slack.
 
airmorse
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05/10/2020 06:00PM
Does anyone on this thread wear a mask when they are out and about?
Just curious is all.

When I'm out doing running around I do wear one.
 
Mocha
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05/10/2020 06:23PM
Gotta wear one in Menards. Of course they will sell you one for a buck, and they are out of stock if you wanted to purchase a box off the shelf. So, yes, I’ve worn one in public. And it’s required at my job. I work in a room by myself that is regularly 80 +/- degrees with 30-40% humidity. It is hard to breathe sometimes
 
yellowcanoe
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05/10/2020 06:25PM
airmorse: "Does anyone on this thread wear a mask when they are out and about?
Just curious is all.


When I'm out doing running around I do wear one."


Errands? Yes when going in stores just out of courtesy to others especially workers who have to interact all day with us. I admit the biggest store I go to has a capacity of 50 ( the supermarket).

Out for a walk? No. I seldom see anyone closer than 300 feet away on a walk. If I do meet someone on a trail I step aside and look away.

I would surmise how crowded your particular everyday world is. Today I puttered around and took a hike. I saw exactly 0 people. Also depends on how susceptible your particular group might be.

I don't think any two people have the same circumstance.

I admit to getting riled with someone breathing all over the vegetables ( they are loose) with no mask.
 
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05/10/2020 07:15PM
I have been wearing one at the Grocery Store, Gas Station, and Walmart. I feel bad as a lot of workers are or look 60+. Out running and biking the trails I have not, but maybe taking a risk there as they have been packed any nice day so far.
 
A1t2o
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05/10/2020 09:29PM
Most people wear masks around Mankato. We wear them at work too, I work at a agricultural equipment factory. If say 80% of people in stores are wearing masks. Many stores are starting to open too, mostly curbside pickup but still getting people back to work.
 
jhb8426
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05/11/2020 12:01AM
airmorse: "Does anyone on this thread wear a mask when they are out and about?
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It's pretty much a situational awareness issue for me. I keep one in the car and if I see that the majority of the clientele are wearing a mask at a store I go to, I go with the flow, especially if all the staff is wearing a mask. When going for my daily walk at a local park, no, I don't wear one and have no issues with people who do or don't, though I find it a bit silly to be wearing one out doors. I don't feel that passing someone on a sidewalk is an issue.
 
nofish
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05/11/2020 12:16AM
I wear a mask when I have to physically go into a store. I don't do it to protect myself, I do it as a courtesy to others just in case I am some how infected and asymptomatic. I'm not sure how much protection the mask offers but I figure even if it reduces the risk a few percentage points then its worth the very minor inconvenience.

When I'm outside on walks I do not wear one. I practice safe distancing and go out of my way to get off the beaten path or if I can't I give people the space that they deserve.

I did see a fair number of folks out for walks this Saturday wearing masks. I have to assume that those people walking together are not living in the same house so taking the precaution for each others sake. Otherwise I don't see much point in wearing a mask to protect people that might walk 6 feet away from me on a walking path.

 
andym
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05/11/2020 07:23PM
We have masks with us when we take walks and put them on for distances around 20' from other people. 6' isn't a magical wall of perfect protection and I am immunocompromised. The masks we wear are reusable N99 masks that we have for wildfires around here (and not of a type for medical use).

When I go into the farm stand or when I went for blood tests today, I wear a 3M half-face respirator with P100 filters. In some ways it is actually more comfortable than simpler masks because it has a well designed harness and seals so well that my glasses don't fog up.

I'd say about half the people have masks with them on walks around our area. They aren't required for that. We are required to wear masks in stores. But the only store I go to is the farm stand. We use delivery services for everything else.
 
PVnRT
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05/12/2020 07:59AM
I do wear a mask when in close proximity to others, for expl when in grocery store, etc...

Years ago, I lived and worked in Japan where frequently witnessed people wearing masks in public. Thought odd and unnecessary until Japanese colleague explained that it was regarded as a common courtesy to prevent spreading germs from wearer to others. Rather formally respectful and polite society.

Doctor son believes highly unlikely folks without masks practicing reasonable distancing will encounter virus out of doors. He forwarded this humorous yet instructive bit of advice on subject:

"One crude but amusing way I like to explain it to people is that, outdoors, you never smell the farts. The same diffusion and convection processes govern those hydrogen sulfide smells as those that govern tiny particles. (The situation is actually a bit rosier for COVID because the particles are much bigger and denser than H2S)."
 
thegildedgopher
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05/12/2020 09:43AM
PVnRT: "I do wear a mask when in close proximity to others, for expl when in grocery store, etc...


Years ago, I lived and worked in Japan where frequently witnessed people wearing masks in public. Thought odd and unnecessary until Japanese colleague explained that it was regarded as a common courtesy to prevent spreading germs from wearer to others. Rather formally respectful and polite society.


Doctor son believes highly unlikely folks without masks practicing reasonable distancing will encounter virus out of doors. He forwarded this humorous yet instructive bit of advice on subject:


"One crude but amusing way I like to explain it to people is that, outdoors, you never smell the farts. The same diffusion and convection processes govern those hydrogen sulfide smells as those that govern tiny particles. (The situation is actually a bit rosier for COVID because the particles are much bigger and denser than H2S).""


Hahaha. Your son has clearly never shared a canoe with my wife after she snacks on GORP all morning.... Please honey, how about you take the stern for once!?

Seriously though, Dr. Michael Oosterholm was on NPR last week and said something similar, without the fun fart analogy.

I have been masking up with a bandana lined with blue shop towel anytime I'm in contact with others in public. This morning I got an N95 from my delivery driver dad because I need to go in to the clinic for a Lymes test, unfortunately. Had a tick bite a couple weeks ago and my knee swelled up outta nowhere yesterday so I'm a little anxious.
 
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