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Pinetree
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05/19/2020 01:36PM
They just said that non essential crossing to Canada will continue until June 21 so that means no Quetico.
BWCA will be busier than normal, once things get going. better grab your permit now. But don't go crazy like the toilet paper run. Get permits for only what you will use.
 
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Pinetree
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05/19/2020 01:45PM
 
yellowcanoe
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05/19/2020 02:16PM
I understand.

But we have nowhere to go. We have a quarantine order for travelers coming from out of state and so far it seems they are flaunting it. Unfortunately it is non enforceable.
Memorial Day weekend will be interesting. We have the fifth lowest rate of infections in the US and going anywhere else but Canada makes us go through hot zones. But neighboring New Brunswick has 0 active cases right now and of course they don't want it ( and they are better at following rules). They have had a total of 120 cases, 0 deaths.

We are boxed in. Not going to BWCA for sure. Probably not Canada either though it is very close to us.
 
05/19/2020 02:17PM
Thanks for this update and the link.
 
Pinetree
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05/19/2020 04:20PM
 
Pinetree
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05/19/2020 04:20PM
I sure many of you have went to Quetico in June for like 20 years or so. Looking back and ahead we were and are very lucky to be able to go to another country and fish and camp.
 
fishEH
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05/19/2020 04:34PM
yellowcanoe: "I understand.


But we have nowhere to go. We have a quarantine order for travelers coming from out of state and so far it seems they are flaunting it. Unfortunately it is non enforceable.
Memorial Day weekend will be interesting. We have the fifth lowest rate of infections in the US and going anywhere else but Canada makes us go through hot zones. But neighboring New Brunswick has 0 active cases right now and of course they don't want it ( and they are better at following rules). They have had a total of 120 cases, 0 deaths.


We are boxed in. Not going to BWCA for sure. Probably not Canada either though it is very close to us."

Where are you located that has a quarantine order for travelers?
 
mutz
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05/19/2020 09:52PM
fishEH: "yellowcanoe: "I understand.



But we have nowhere to go. We have a quarantine order for travelers coming from out of state and so far it seems they are flaunting it. Unfortunately it is non enforceable.
Memorial Day weekend will be interesting. We have the fifth lowest rate of infections in the US and going anywhere else but Canada makes us go through hot zones. But neighboring New Brunswick has 0 active cases right now and of course they don't want it ( and they are better at following rules). They have had a total of 120 cases, 0 deaths.



We are boxed in. Not going to BWCA for sure. Probably not Canada either though it is very close to us."

Where are you located that has a quarantine order for travelers?"



I think he meant a request for out of staters to stay away, because as he said it is not enforceable anyway. Even the stay close to home orders are only requests and not enforceable.
 
billconner
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05/20/2020 05:27AM
Maine "mandate"

Maine calls it a mandate.

Enforced?

I suspect some folks in Maine will report what they see as a violation. Willbe interesting.
 
mutz
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05/20/2020 07:10AM
billconner: " Maine "mandate"


Maine calls it a mandate.


Enforced?


I suspect some folks in Maine will report what they see as a violation. Willbe interesting."



Will be interesting if anyone is ever charged how far it would go in court. Wisconsin and Oregon courts have ruled governors don’t have the power to make laws and have opened the states.
 
yellowcanoe
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05/21/2020 03:45PM
fishEH: "yellowcanoe: "I understand.



But we have nowhere to go. We have a quarantine order for travelers coming from out of state and so far it seems they are flaunting it. Unfortunately it is non enforceable.
Memorial Day weekend will be interesting. We have the fifth lowest rate of infections in the US and going anywhere else but Canada makes us go through hot zones. But neighboring New Brunswick has 0 active cases right now and of course they don't want it ( and they are better at following rules). They have had a total of 120 cases, 0 deaths.



We are boxed in. Not going to BWCA for sure. Probably not Canada either though it is very close to us."

Where are you located that has a quarantine order for travelers?"


Maine.. Since the quarantine order makes no sense for travelers( you are supposed to go directly to your den and no stopping enroute) and hole up for 14 days before going in public. It took several iterations of this to make it ok for travelers not to have to shelter in a car at the first rest area for two weeks. They can go to a cottage and do that.
Now who wants to spend money to do that? The quarantine is on the honor system which has a chance in you know what to curb an influx.

So far it has started and most are being socially aware thankfully. Masks are a PITA and when its hot they are a real problem.

I deliver meals to shut ins and we have to wear a mask and there are stairs... aagh was feeling woozy after 25 apts!

VIA Rail has canceled almost all service in Canada until November. Its often used by canoe trippers in Wabakimi.

To me seems a border opening till then unlikely. British Columbia just closed its Provincial Parks to all but residents of the province for the entire year. I expect others to follow.
 
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