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HoneyGuy101
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05/20/2020 04:27PM
With the new regs out for Covid-19 and the BWCA open I'm getting excited for next week. But I have one small concern. I saw the email issued by recreation.gov today. It shows the list of issuing stations and if they are operating virtually or not. My station says it is issuing in-person. But does that mean I have to stop there now? Or can I still print mine to reduce our exposure to anyone. I want to be as proactive as possible and not stop in Ely. Does in-person issuing mean I am required to stop?
 
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geotramper
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05/20/2020 05:21PM
If you want to get your permit issued virtually, you might be able to change your permit issuing station to one of those doing virtual only. If I remember correctly, you can go to rec.gov and modify your reservation, including the issuing station. Hopefully someone can correct me if I am wrong.
 
geotramper
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05/20/2020 05:27PM
Just confirmed. Go to rec.gov and log in. Click on 'My Reservations'. Click on the link for the reservation details for your trip. In a box on the right side you'll see a link that says 'Modify' - click that. Scroll down on the resulting page to where it lists the permit issuing station. Click on the link underneath that that says 'I need to make a change'. That will take you to a list where you can select a new station. Follow the instructions from there and I assume you will be all set.
 
nooneuno
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05/20/2020 09:03PM
I printed my confirmation email just as I had been instructed to do by the forest service, if that’s not good enough too bad, They can’t change the rules every 15 minutes and expect folks to follow them to the letter
 
HoneyGuy101
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05/20/2020 09:09PM
nooneuno: "I printed my confirmation email just as I had been instructed to do by the forest service, if that’s not good enough too bad, They can’t change the rules every 15 minutes and expect folks to follow them to the letter"

I agree. They can't get mad honestly when were doing it for the sake of safety. Worst case we just plead innocent.
 
sdebol
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05/20/2020 11:51PM
I agree as well. I also had the impression from reading further down in the notice that you could still choose to print the confirmation email instead of picking up the permit in person (when an option) if you wanted to. Anyone else read it that way?
 
OMGitsKa
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05/21/2020 07:53AM
sdebol: "I agree as well. I also had the impression from reading further down in the notice that you could still choose to print the confirmation email instead of picking up the permit in person (when an option) if you wanted to. Anyone else read it that way?"

I would agree. Under the 'Pass Holder' section, that is the impression I got. Honestly I'm sure they will be forgiving of whatever you decide to do. If you are paid and confirmed to enter and have confirmation email you should be good to go.
 
wxce1260
member (34)member
 
05/21/2020 08:49AM
Are you just printing the confirmation email? The email only has permit holder, res number area and party size, but no other details that are on a regular permit. I'm guessing that must be sufficient.
 
HoneyGuy101
member (40)member
 
05/21/2020 08:53AM
wxce1260: "Are you just printing the confirmation email? The email only has permit holder, res number area and party size, but no other details that are on a regular permit. I'm guessing that must be sufficient."

Correct. I'm going to print all the confirmations I can from the website or the email confirmation as well. Just going to cover my bases. The packs are 40 lbs so a couple extra pieces of paper isn't going to slow us down.
 
Atb
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05/22/2020 08:57AM
I think the language is pretty clear to me. "visitors have two options" in my mind means you can choose to print at home. What is less clear is, when does the "modification period" end? Today, it only says beginning May 18, no end date defined. Here's the options from recreation.gov:

Visitors have (2) options during the modification period for quota permits:

1. Print their Reservation Confirmation Email at home and use this as their permit.

2. Pick up permit in person at a cooperating business that remains physically open.
 
HoneyGuy101
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05/22/2020 09:02AM
Atb: "I think the language is pretty clear to me. "visitors have two options" in my mind means you can choose to print at home. What is less clear is, when does the "modification period" end? Today, it only says beginning May 18, no end date defined. Here's the options from recreation.gov:


Visitors have (2) options during the modification period for quota permits:


1. Print their Reservation Confirmation Email at home and use this as their permit.


2. Pick up permit in person at a cooperating business that remains physically open."


That's exactly what concerned me. I know what the regs were prior to May 18th but that doesn't seem to have been updated since May 18th. Either way, it does state that I can print it off at home so I will go with that.
 
ClareAugust
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05/30/2020 07:35AM
Permit cooperator here! You can absolutely print off your confirmation email even if you selected an issuing station that is doing it "in person". We were told we had to select "in person" if we were planning to be open for rentals. In reality, we are encouraging folks to print their confirmation emails to reduce the traffic to our walk-up window. Of course, if someone doesn't have access to a printer or forgets their confirmation on the counter at home - we will happily print your permit.
 
sdebol
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05/31/2020 02:43PM
ClareAugust: "Permit cooperator here! You can absolutely print off your confirmation email even if you selected an issuing station that is doing it "in person". We were told we had to select "in person" if we were planning to be open for rentals. In reality, we are encouraging folks to print their confirmation emails to reduce the traffic to our walk-up window. Of course, if someone doesn't have access to a printer or forgets their confirmation on the counter at home - we will happily print your permit."

This was my experience last Tuesday in Ely. Had printed my confirmation email but stopped at the outfitter anyway since they were listed as open on the recreation.gov website. They immediately asked if I had printed my email confirmation and when I told them “yes” they said I was good to go. I thought they would have preferred I had an actual permit but they didn’t.
 
analyzer
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05/31/2020 05:56PM
So if I paid for 2 people, and want to up it to 4 or 6, can I go back in, and pay for the others, and get a new confirmation that shows the updated numbers, or how does that work?
 
Beast388
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05/31/2020 06:02PM
analyzer: "So if I paid for 2 people, and want to up it to 4 or 6, can I go back in, and pay for the others, and get a new confirmation that shows the updated numbers, or how does that work?"

Yes, I added one to our permit last year, paid and then received a new confirmation email with the updated info.
 
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