A nice break from the Summer heat for us today.

Crazy

I'm a few hours east-southeast of you over in the Dallas area and although it's going to cool down a bit it's not going to be that drastic of a change. A big change had been in the forecast but it's falling apart. I was hoping for a major cool-down.

Wow, and I thought it was chilly in Ely this morning...

Tony

A friend just moved to Denver. She has snow and ice this morning.

My kid is going to OU for meterology. He's like a kid in a giant toy store there; watching the weather has been his thing since he was old enough to control the TV to turn on the Weather Channel.

mirth: "My kid is going to OU for meterology. He's like a kid in a giant toy store."

great school for MET, have had several co-workers over the years that went there.
Two days in a row with temps near 50F and lows 45F here in DSM with a cold rain/drizzle.. Records for coldest high temps dating back to 1878
Two fires in the woodburner. Earliest in 20 years.
expect a big turn around in 3 weeks or so. That's the current cycle we are in per Pacific energy. (which really controls are weather in the Lower 48) When this cycle repeats itself (long story) in early winter- watch out for same type of pattern with record lows for early winter.

WhiteWolf: "

mirth: "My kid is going to OU for meterology. He's like a kid in a giant toy store."

expect a big turn around in 3 weeks or so. That's the current cycle we are in per Pacific energy. (which really controls are weather in the Lower 48) When this cycle repeats itself (long story) in early winter- watch out for same type of pattern with record lows for early winter. "

What do you mean by this? We put in 3 weeks from today and I'm curious if you're predicting it to be cold again in three weeks or warm up again.

andym: "A friend just moved to Denver. She has snow and ice this morning."

Yeah--spoke with our daughter in Del Norte, CO, last night--15 inches of snow and temp in upper 20s. While the snow won't be there long, it certainly screwed up their late garden!

TZ

Chuckles: "

WhiteWolf: "

mirth: "My kid is going to OU for meterology. He's like a kid in a giant toy store."

expect a big turn around in 3 weeks or so. That's the current cycle we are in per Pacific energy. (which really controls are weather in the Lower 48) When this cycle repeats itself (long story) in early winter- watch out for same type of pattern with record lows for early winter. "

What do you mean by this? We put in 3 weeks from today and I'm curious if you're predicting it to be cold again in three weeks or warm up again. "

Above avg in 3 weeks. That can mean a lot of things compared to one of the coldest Sept starts for the Northland in recent memory. DSM (Des Moines,IA) just had 3 consecutive days (8,9,10th of Sept ) of coldest high temps ever recorded. And it's very difficult to find 3 days of records - back to back to back of any parameter "measured the same way" to do something like that. My point is that for a location (not the only btw) to break records , means something is up. Especially if hurricanes fire up and not only target the E.Coast (especially, but even the E.Gulf works) . If that happens you can BET on above avg temps in the Upper Midwest. This recent cool/cold is caused by inactivity in both the ATL and PAC.-- at least land falling for Atlantic storms as they name everything now. I could really go on, but yes in 3 weeks ( or so) expect above avg temps. Not just a few degrees as in next week , but nearly equaling out the negative departues of the first 10 days of Sept. Do the math.

WhiteWolf: "

Chuckles: "

WhiteWolf: "

mirth: "My kid is going to OU for meterology. He's like a kid in a giant toy store."

Above avg in 3 weeks. That can mean a lot of things compared to one of the coldest Sept starts for the Northland in recent memory. DSM (Des Moines,IA) just had 3 consecutive days (8,9,10th of Sept ) of coldest high temps ever recorded. And it's very difficult to find 3 days of records - back to back to back of any parameter "measured the same way" to do something like that. My point is that for a location (not the only btw) to break records , means something is up. Especially if hurricanes fire up and not only target the E.Coast (especially, but even the E.Gulf works) . If that happens you can BET on above avg temps in the Upper Midwest. This recent cool/cold is caused by inactivity in both the ATL and PAC.-- at least land falling for Atlantic storms as they name everything now. I could really go on, but yes in 3 weeks ( or so) expect above avg temps. Not just a few degrees as in next week , but nearly equaling out the negative departues of the first 10 days of Sept. Do the math. "

Thanks! I'm holding you to it!

Seriously, I appreciate your knowledge on the subject; I've been impressed with your meteorology in other posts. I predict energy for wind and solar farms, so I digest a lot of weather and climatological data, but I'm generally interested in long-term predictions (like 20-year averages) rather than shorter-term.

WhiteWolf: "

mirth: "My kid is going to OU for meterology. He's like a kid in a giant toy store."

great school for MET, have had several co-workers over the years that went "

Hey Jeff! Yeah, the National Weather Center is why he chose OU over U of I. Kid loves data & maps. I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out of school in 4-5 years w/an advanced degree in MET & several minors in language and GIS.