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heavylunch
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10/11/2020 05:05PM  
My turn started this past Tuesday. My daughter brought it home from school. She never had a fever, just a day or two of fall allergy type sniffles and less than a day of being unusually tired.

My wife and I have both had very low grade fevers for a day or two with fatigue. I had body aches for 2 days and my wife lost smell and taste yesterday on about day 7. Mostly, we feel fine other than that. Nobody appears to have had it move into their chest so far.

Tylenol worked wonders on the body aches for sleeping by the way. I used melatonin to break the worry cycle in my mind and get good sleep.

Anyway, can't wait to be done with it.

Anyone else?
 
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jhb8426
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10/11/2020 07:54PM  
Be interested to know if you were actually tested for it.
 
heavylunch
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10/11/2020 08:16PM  
Yeah. Of the 5 of us that got tested in our circle. 4 were positive. Forgot, took about 2 or 3 days to get it back for us.
 
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10/11/2020 11:52PM  
I was never tested but would like to get an antibody test to see if what I had late winter/early spring was covid. It hit me before covid was a major concern in the US but my illness matched the traditional covid symptoms perfectly.

I had off and on fever, the worst body aches I've ever had with an illness, chills, tightness in my chest, a 3-4 day headache that tylenol couldn't touch, and a cough that ended up lasting a month or more. Ended up missing a full week of work and then the following week I suffered through work while still feeling really run down. After 2 weeks I felt mostly back to normal except the cough that wouldn't go away.

I know several people that have tested postive for covid and what they described matched what I dealt with perfectly.

The symptoms all match but the timing is off based on what we know so I really don't know. I think mine hit late February early march. Maybe covid has been around a bit longer than we realize (entirely possible since testing was non-existent) or my family got hit by something else with the same symptoms. Of the 4 of us in the house 3 of us got sick. My son's experience was minor, my wife not as sick as I was but still not fun, and then me being the worst.



 
jhb8426
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10/12/2020 12:06AM  
Thanks for the update. I was curious because someone in my family claims they were infected but were never tested.
 
billconner
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10/12/2020 05:27AM  
I tested positive 2 weeks ago. Just released from isolation by county health department. I had been in MS for businesses week previous. Met Monday on construction site and Friday learned electrian had tested positive on Wednesday. That's the presumption.

Some aches, maybe fever for a day. Congestion. Not much. We assume my wife had it, no test, but 80% probability of other household members.


 
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10/12/2020 06:00AM  
We (wife and me) may have been exposed from her work. I say "may" because her work is being unhelpful in determining who had it and who may have been exposed. We found out on Saturday via email that someone tested positive, and then received several conflicting and unclear emails about the current status of her workplace.

She is going to try to get tested today, but if you have no symptoms, they won't test you, at least that is what HealthPartners told her. I'm like WTF ? So, for the second time, we are under self quarantine until we can find out something concrete. 1st time was earlier this year when the mother-in-laws home care worker was exposed. Took about a week before we found out she was negative. So far, we have no symptoms, but until we get tested, we won't know for sure, and we don't want to put anyone at risk, so here we sit.
 
heavylunch
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10/12/2020 12:53PM  
Around here, they don't seem to want to test if you call but if you show up to urgent care and ask to be tested they will likely do it without a fuss if you have had direct substantial exposure. I had no symptoms when I was tested.

 
billconner
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10/12/2020 05:04PM  
I didn't have much problem getting test appointment. I was assertive and said truthfully that I had been exposed to someone who tested positive. You have to be a little assertive, at least for free/covered tests.
 
heavylunch
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10/14/2020 09:21AM  
Update:

I ended up having sudden massive congestion hit me about 2 days ago. Really caught me off guard as I thought I was done with it. It seems to finally be better this morning. If I had to guess, it hit me on about day 7 or 8 for me.

Grandma is also in the middle of some new symptoms too. She had her first fever last night since infection. I believe she is on day 8 and has not had a fever up until now. She hit 101.5 last night but was back to 99.4 this morning. Super strange.
 
GopherAdventure
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10/14/2020 10:02AM  
So sorry that it’s hit your family. It sounds like you’re doing everything you can to stay strong and hopefully everyone in your family bounces back from this okay. Thanks for sharing the insights in regard to Tylenol and what not. It’s good to know for those of us who may get sick in the future. Best of luck in you and your families recovery.

Tony
 
10/14/2020 11:12AM  
I’m a retired male in my early 50’s.

My wife and I took an Uber to/from a bar for a friend’s birthday celebration on March 15, 2020. Other than that we were taking care to not expose ourselves to others for the previous few weeks (not going out, ordering groceries to be delivered, no socializing with friends, etc). Going out that night was a mistake.

Developed symptoms March 19.
Tested on March 26.
Positive test results communicated to me March 28.

My symptoms were sinus pain/headache, lower back pain, mild fever, and loss of smell. I’ve had asthma my whole life but had no respiratory issues with the virus.

Recovered from most symptoms within a week, however, I still have a nearly complete loss of smell and taste. Foods taste way different and what little I can currently smell it is more of an acrid odor that I pick up. Can’t really smell herbs and spices and I do a fair amount of the cooking for the family. Yes, it’s been over six months and not much has changed on this front since the initial symptoms subsided.

My wife and son (19 yr old) never displayed any significant symptoms but we assume they had contracted the virus given we live in the same house together.
 
Wolfee
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10/15/2020 08:44AM  
nofish: "I was never tested but would like to get an antibody test to see if what I had late winter/early spring was covid. It hit me before covid was a major concern in the US but my illness matched the traditional covid symptoms perfectly.


I had off and on fever, the worst body aches I've ever had with an illness, chills, tightness in my chest, a 3-4 day headache that tylenol couldn't touch, and a cough that ended up lasting a month or more. Ended up missing a full week of work and then the following week I suffered through work while still feeling really run down. After 2 weeks I felt mostly back to normal except the cough that wouldn't go away.


I know several people that have tested postive for covid and what they described matched what I dealt with perfectly.


The symptoms all match but the timing is off based on what we know so I really don't know. I think mine hit late February early march. Maybe covid has been around a bit longer than we realize (entirely possible since testing was non-existent) or my family got hit by something else with the same symptoms. Of the 4 of us in the house 3 of us got sick. My son's experience was minor, my wife not as sick as I was but still not fun, and then me being the worst.



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My story's very similar. Mid-late february the whole family came down with something. Wife and kids had fairly mild symptoms while I got the sickest I've been since I can remember. Super-high fever for multiple days (hit 105 several times), chills, joint aches, chest tightness, etc... Wife was worried enough that she wanted to take me to the ER several times. Was only really in a bad way for about 4 days, but the fatigue and general feeling of crapiness lasted for several weeks. We had one of my kids tested for flu and came back negative for both A and B.

I did not ever get a bad or lingering cough, although I did "lose" my sense of taste and smell. I say lose in quotes because it wasn't so much that I lost my senses, everything just tasted really bad. I couldn't stand the taste of coffee for three-four weeks which is very strange since I love coffee and am hopelessly addicted.

I had traveled 1-2 weeks before we all came down with it. I wanted to get antibody test in March but couldn't find any providers in my area. We'll probably never know...
 
yellowcanoe
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10/16/2020 07:57AM  
Probably, We got off a small ship cruise in the Caribbean where the crew to passenger ratio was high. All the crew was from Asia . I have no idea how many stay on board for months and who goes home from time to time
This was the beginning of Feb . Altered smell and taste ( like I had in chemo) and had GI issues , sniffles and out of control tiredness and aches. Constant brain fog. Lasted about two weeks.

Hubby the same. But it is conjecture. We have not been tested.

Heavylunch hope your Grandma is all better soon.
 
heavylunch
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10/20/2020 09:26AM  
Hi all,
I was hoping to have a more cheerful update for you before I posted again but unfortunately it is mixed.

Me = 95% fine since Saturday. Minimal cough in morning, fatigue largely not an issue. I did lose about 80% of taste and smell, some stuff also just tastes "bad" that didn't before.

Wife/Kid = both fully recovered and doing well minus losing taste and smell. Still not back for wife.

Grandpa = Still no symptoms, assume he is still negative

Grandma = In hospital as of Sunday 18th. Needs some prayers as she is a stubborn and difficult patient, especially when she is scared and doesn't understand something.

Grandma has a fever, extreme weakness, and low oxygen levels. We had been monitoring them with a $20 oximeter off amazon per recommendation (she is high risk) and she did slowly drop 1 or 2% a day until Sunday she started ending up more in the 80's than 90's. The funny thing is compared to her previous pneumonias is that she isn't coughing or having any obvious trouble breathing. Silent Hypoxia is something they have mentioned.

Anyway, any prayers are appreciated, I hope to have some better news one of these days, it is hard to watch the decline.

heavylunch
 
10/20/2020 09:51AM  
Prayers for you and yours.
 
heavylunch
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10/27/2020 02:16PM  
Another update:

Grandma has been in the hospital/ICU since Sunday 18th. She appears to be turning the corner since Saturday 24th. I think she is on about day 27 since exposure, and day 21 since symptoms. Quite the long haul.

Grandpa is no longer negative and did get COVID after all. He deteriorated much faster after showing symptoms and is also in the ICU as of Sunday 25th.

Please be careful out there, especially with your elders.

Heavylunch
 
andym
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10/29/2020 02:58PM  
Hoping for good outcomes for your grandparents. My thoughts are with you.
 
heavylunch
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10/30/2020 12:41PM  
Hello again BWCA people,

Another update:

Grandma = Recovering rapidly now! On day 12 of hospital stay and day 24 since 1st symptoms. Moved her out of ICU yesterday. Expected to be discharged in 1 or 2 days. Will still need 1 – 2 weeks of physical rehabilitation. Not sure if that will be at home with nurse visits or at an inpatient center.

Grandpa = Stabilized but not able to ween off oxygen yet. I am hoping today is the day he starts to get stronger. His appetite is good and he seems normal in conversation, but for some reason he still needs massive amounts of oxygen. He is getting 40L of 90% High Flow oxygen for those with medical curiosity.
 
10/30/2020 08:51PM  
Heavylunch thoughts and prayers going out to family!

My immediate family has been untouched...hate to say anything and jinx it...lost my 74 year old uncle and his 51 year old niece (not a direct relation) to COVID back in April. Sucks couldn’t even have funerals...which our family understood but still feel terrible for my relatives as that usually helps with the grieving process—-although most of them had COVID too so they wouldn’t of attended. This whole disease SUCKs!

T
 
straighthairedcurly
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10/30/2020 09:08PM  
I presumably had it in mid-March. I am pretty sure I caught it from a large robotics event 2 weeks earlier. It started with horrible conjunctivitis. Then an awful headache, fever of 101, and complete and utter exhaustion. I had a terrible cough and other respiratory symptoms. I tried to get a test, but at that time the tests were being saved for health care workers or hospitalized patients. I talked with a nurse line and MN Dept. of Health. They all agreed that all indications were that I was positive, but they could not authorize a test for me.
My son never had any symptoms, but my husband got sicker than I did, and took longer to recover, though was able to avoid hospitalization as well.

It took about 7 days for me to feel better, though I had to work consciously to improve my breathing for longer than that by doing deep breathing exercises to keep clearing out my lungs.

I thought about getting an antibody test later, but by the time they were easy to get, it was already 3 months later and the verdict was out as to how long antibodies are measurable or would even protect a person, so I figured "why bother".
 
jhb8426
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10/31/2020 12:46AM  
straighthairedcurly: "I presumably had it in mid-March. I am pretty sure I caught it from a large robotics event 2 weeks earlier..."

Was that at a First Lego League meet or the First Tech Challeng?
We were at the FLL tournament on Jan 11 at the Capitol Hill Magnet School in St. Paul.
 
MichiganMan
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10/31/2020 06:42PM  
I think all of us wonder if we had it at some point. I've not been sick other than a sore throat a couple of times, but I still wondered. I donated blood a few weeks ago, and now the American Red Cross is doing antibody tests for all who donate. Mine came up negative, meaning I have not had it to this point. So if any of you are blood donors, that would be one way to find out if you have the antibodies or not.
 
10/31/2020 07:48PM  
I travel for work and am around people that travel internationally.

Towards the end of last November i came down with something that all the same symptoms: fever, cough, real bad headache for days, upper respiratory. Knocked me out for two weeks. The person I caught it from ended up in the hospital with viral pneumonia. Thankfully I did not.

It spread thru my department very quickly and everyone had the same symptoms.

The first known published case was not for another month, so who knows.
 
andym
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10/31/2020 09:37PM  
My wife had close contact with a presumed case in Seattle at the end of January. We both were sick for a lot of February and early March but I later tested negative for antibodies. Also no spread to people we were in contact with. There was other stuff going around last winter too including the flu.

Heavylunch, I am glad your grandparents are making progress. I hope they are both home soon.
 
heavylunch
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11/03/2020 10:46AM  
Update:

My wife tested positive for covid a month ago but tested negative last week for antibodies so go figure that. I am not sure how much faith to put in the antibody test. I am not sure why they tested her, but she does work in a healthcare clinic so I am guessing they just wanted to use her as a test case?

Grandma at home now on 2.5 liters of oxygen using one of those little portable machines. She uses a Rollator walker and is generally doing well. She has to get these shots in her belly for 2 weeks to prevent clots caused by COVID. After 2 weeks we are hoping she will be mostly recovered. She does seem just a little stronger each day.

Grandpa did turn the corner 2 days ago and has actually passed my mom for recovery speed. He is only on 1.5 liters of oxygen now and they expect him to be discharged today or tomorrow to a supervised inpatient rehabilitation facility until he is 100% off the oxygen. He has mild dementia and very poor balance (even with walker/cane) so walking around the house with an oxygen cord attached is too much of a "fall risk" to take.

 
11/03/2020 06:08PM  
airmorse: "I travel for work and am around people that travel internationally.


Towards the end of last November i came down with something that all the same symptoms: fever, cough, real bad headache for days, upper respiratory. Knocked me out for two weeks. The person I caught it from ended up in the hospital with viral pneumonia. Thankfully I did not.


It spread thru my department very quickly and everyone had the same symptoms.


The first known published case was not for another month, so who knows."


Well.....i might not have had it last November.

Just got tested. Feel like crap. They tested me for flu as well and that was negative.

101.4 temp
Headache bad
Ache
Some Sinus issues
Sore/scratching throat
I can still smell and taste.

I'll know tomorrow or the following day. Doctor said that 50% of the people he has been testing are positive.

Unfortunately i was recently with both my immune compromised parents. So I am really worried about them.
 
11/05/2020 02:17AM  
Well, I did indeed test positive so time will tell...
 
nofish
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11/05/2020 11:19AM  
airmorse: "Well I did indeed test positive. So time will tell..."
Hang in there, wishing you a speedy recovery.
 
andym
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11/05/2020 12:09PM  
Airmorse, hope you recover quickly.

Heavylunch, I’m glad your grandparents are making progress and hope that continues and they can both be at home.
 
11/05/2020 02:43PM  
Second that.
 
11/05/2020 04:23PM  
We have been lucky in our house so far although several of my kids friends have had it in their houses. Nothing here yet and we have been very careful because my youngest is at higher risk due to asthma.

Hope everyone recovers quickly and all of your friends and family can avoid it.
 
MichiganMan
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11/05/2020 08:40PM  
airmorse: "Well, I did indeed test positive so time will tell..."

Hang in there Airmorse! Throwing a prayer your way.

Same for you Heavylunch. Glad to hear your folks are doing better.
 
11/06/2020 07:32PM  
Thanks for all the well wishes.

I just finished eating a nice dinner that I couldn't taste. The loss of taste is a recent development.

I hope everyone stays healthy and gets well!!!
 
straighthairedcurly
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11/09/2020 12:00AM  
jhb8426: "straighthairedcurly: "I presumably had it in mid-March. I am pretty sure I caught it from a large robotics event 2 weeks earlier..."


Was that at a First Lego League meet or the First Tech Challeng?
We were at the FLL tournament on Jan 11 at the Capitol Hill Magnet School in St. Paul."


FLL, state tourney end of February.
 
MikeinMpls
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11/10/2020 03:16PM  
I had it, diagnosed end of September. It spread across my hockey teams, so like 30 guys got it. I have asthma, so it attacked my lungs. My O2 sat was 90 at one point, and I had to brace myself against a wall if I walked more than 15 feet. Better now, but lingering asthma cough secondary to the virus.

Don't get it!

Mike
 
andym
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11/10/2020 04:47PM  
That sounds very rough, Mike. I'm glad you are recovering and hope that continues.
 
11/12/2020 09:00AM  
Sitting in my chair this morning i thought i could smell something.

It was like a switch was turned on. Went from nothing to something.

Everything and I mean EVERYTHING smells like a combination of chocolate burnt coffee and lavender.
 
andym
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11/13/2020 02:56PM  
That's fascinating how your sense of smell returned. I hope it broadens to other aromas soon.
 
moosewatcher
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11/14/2020 04:08PM  
Down two weeks in mid October, tested positive on the 19th. Severe cough and was tired and aches. Loss of appetite. 2nd week was mostly recovery. Never lost taste or smell. Family also all tested positive but only had minor headaches and sinus issues. Grandkids never had a real problem. I'm 72 so I feel lucky I got by with what I had.
 
11/15/2020 05:49PM  
Well i seem to be on the mend. No fever since Friday. Still have some Sinus stuff.

Slowly regaining my energy. So as others have indicated seems to take around 2 weeks to run its course.

Never had a cough. Did have some chest discomfort.
 
heavylunch
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11/17/2020 02:22PM  
Hi everyone,

Update:

Mom: Ended up back in the ICU 5 days after coming home with post-covid "inflammation". She crashed hard over about a 2 hour period on day 5 at home. Oxygen was at 94 at like 10am but by noon was dipping to mid 80's and I took her in for the 2nd time.

They tested her again and she was negative with a positive antibody test. They put her back on decadron to reduce inflammation (CRP 21) and after another 9 day stay she is back at home again. This time they are keeping her on steriods another 12 days with a tapering off. She doesn't need oxygen except for when she does her physical therapy.

Dad: Dad is ok and seems to be over the disease completely minus some lingering fatigue.

Airmorse - Glad to hear you are doing better.
 
andym
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11/19/2020 02:16PM  
Thanks for the updates. Happy that Airmorse is doing better. Heavylunch, your family is reminding me of one of my colleague's parents. Her mother also had a second hospital stay and wound up on decadron for a while while her father had a smoother recovery. But they are both doing well now. I hope your mother's recovery is smooth from here on out.
 
MichiganMan
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11/19/2020 08:34PM  
Glad to hear that everyone seems to be on the mend!
 
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11/29/2020 07:41PM  
Wolfee: "nofish: "I was never tested but would like to get an antibody test to see if what I had late winter/early spring was covid. It hit me before covid was a major concern in the US but my illness matched the traditional covid symptoms perfectly.

I had off and on fever, the worst body aches I've ever had with an illness, chills, tightness in my chest, a 3-4 day headache that tylenol couldn't touch, and a cough that ended up lasting a month or more. Ended up missing a full week of work and then the following week I suffered through work while still feeling really run down. After 2 weeks I felt mostly back to normal except the cough that wouldn't go away.


I know several people that have tested postive for covid and what they described matched what I dealt with perfectly.


The symptoms all match but the timing is off based on what we know so I really don't know. I think mine hit late February early march. Maybe covid has been around a bit longer than we realize (entirely possible since testing was non-existent) or my family got hit by something else with the same symptoms. Of the 4 of us in the house 3 of us got sick. My son's experience was minor, my wife not as sick as I was but still not fun, and then me being the worst.


"



My story's very similar. Mid-late february the whole family came down with something. Wife and kids had fairly mild symptoms while I got the sickest I've been since I can remember. Super-high fever for multiple days (hit 105 several times), chills, joint aches, chest tightness, etc... Wife was worried enough that she wanted to take me to the ER several times. Was only really in a bad way for about 4 days, but the fatigue and general feeling of crapiness lasted for several weeks. We had one of my kids tested for flu and came back negative for both A and B.


I did not ever get a bad or lingering cough, although I did "lose" my sense of taste and smell. I say lose in quotes because it wasn't so much that I lost my senses, everything just tasted really bad. I couldn't stand the taste of coffee for three-four weeks which is very strange since I love coffee and am hopelessly addicted.


I had traveled 1-2 weeks before we all came down with it. I wanted to get antibody test in March but couldn't find any providers in my area. We'll probably never know..."


Basically same story here. I'm just under 40 and at the time traveled by train to Chicago daily for work. Reason I bring it up is that there were confirmed cases in Chicago as early as late January. Possibly unrelated, but I had one of the worst respiratory issues of my life throughout January. Then in late February I came down with aches, sore throat, fever, dizziness, profuse night sweating, fevered dreams, etc. for a couple days. Went to urgent care and they ran a flu test and a strep test which both came back negative. My sense of taste was off and I remarked to my wife about how things tasted awful. Then maybe a week later she had a minor bout of something similar but less severe. She said the same about things tasting horrible. Then we heard on the news that a common symptom was "loss of taste and smell" and even heard reports of people having night sweating and crazy dreams. Just seemed too coincidental. I have type O+ blood and I'm young-ish and in fairly good health, so that may have helped me bounce back compared to the stories some people tell.

Maybe I talked myself into believing I had it. I tried to get antibody testing for some peace of mind, but calls to my doctors office pretty much led nowhere. 5-6 months later I found that the Red Cross was doing antibody testing for blood donations so I gave it a shot. Came back negative, but I've heard that antibody presence might not be long lived. But yeah... we'll probably never know.

Also- glad to hear things are on the mend for heavylunch's family and the rest. Just heard yesterday of an old family friend with cancer that passed from covid complications.

Stay safe and healthy everybody.
 
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12/01/2020 08:40PM  
I just got tested yesterday but not for symptoms; my son and daughter-in-law just had a baby and they want me to visit. Direct family has been ok, but my daughter could have had it in March. She's a teacher. My wife is a nurse and had it run through her unit over a 6 week period from early Oct. to mid November. 30 of 36 (her charges) were positive and 13 of them passed within 3 weeks of acquisition. They test EVERYONE weekly. It spreads so fast. Her boss (Nurse Practicioner) has had it twice in the last 6 months.

PLEASE be careful out there. Follow the guidelines and pay attention to changes. Everyday they are learning more about this.
 
12/01/2020 10:42PM  
So your saying that 13 of the 30 people that had covid-19 passed away. That is shockingly scary.
 
MikeinMpls
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12/02/2020 09:44AM  
I had it, as did most of my hockey team. Got sick and tested positive while on vacation in Upper Michigan. My wife and I proceeded to be really ill for about 10 days. I ended up in the ER, couldn't walk more than 15 feet without stopping to gasp for air. She was extremely fatigued and suffered headaches.

Mike
 
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12/02/2020 02:10PM  
I was tested yesterday at work. I was negative. We are all randomly tested by Indiana University where I work.
 
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12/03/2020 08:34AM  
 
mapsguy1955
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12/03/2020 10:12AM  
We need to take the politics out of this. It doesn’t matter where it came from at this point. Our reaction to what is happening today is the only important thing.
 
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12/03/2020 10:18AM  
 
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12/03/2020 11:22AM  
 
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12/03/2020 11:23AM  
 
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12/03/2020 11:39AM  
 
andym
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12/03/2020 12:43PM  
Could we keep this thread focused on the health of members of our community and their families? If you want to discuss other issues, please start another thread. I’d really appreciate it if the last few posters could edit their posts to remove all those other matters. I was really appreciating a chance to hear what is going on with people and their families.
 
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12/03/2020 07:09PM  
Intriguing how varied the experience of those of us who have or had it. I'm thankful I was lucky.
 
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12/04/2020 03:51PM  
mapsguy1955: "We need to take the politics out of this. It doesn’t matter where it came from at this point. Our reaction to what is happening today is the only important thing. "

"At this point"? Where it came from wasn't political to begin with. To connect this disease to politicians is absurd.
And the virus doesn't recognize lines on a map. Another total absurdity.
Wash your hands - keep away from sick people. Live your life.
 
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12/08/2020 09:31AM  
Final Update:

Hello everyone,

Mom and Dad (70's) are both recovered now with the exception of fatigue and getting back into shape physically. From start to "finish" the whole thing lasted almost 2 months for them including multiple ICU stays for my mom. Pretty amazing considering it was only 2 days for our 8 year old and a week or two for me and my wife (40's).

Take care and get help early if you get the disease and you feel fatigued. Oximeter readings going from the 90's to the 80's are bad news. That "silent hypoxia" is a dangerous animal and shouldn't be taken lightly given how quickly the "crashing" can occur. I have seen it first hand with both my parents.

I am convinced trying to "sleep it off" has likely been a deadly mistake for some folks out there in the 80's who could have otherwise been saved or at least avoided intubation had they seeked help sooner.

Take care everyone and keep an eye on your stubborn family members if they get COVID.

 
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12/08/2020 08:56PM  
Wow glad to hear everyone is finally doing better. Your analysis is very helpful. If my family gets it, we'll definitely pay attention to our O2 levels. Hopefully we never need the advice, but thanks for putting it out there.
 
mapsguy1955
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12/09/2020 10:31AM  
Of course you are right about the virus, specifically. I live in Florida and 99% (my words) of the people that are whining about Constitutional rights, and are out and about without social distancing or masks (or both) and are spreading this are Trump supporters. Tell me again that the exponential spread isn't political? Is that just where you live? If I sound pissed off it is because I am. Too many of my friends and family who do their best to follow established protocols have been afflicted with it.

KarlBAndersen1: "mapsguy1955: "We need to take the politics out of this. It doesn’t matter where it came from at this point. Our reaction to what is happening today is the only important thing. "


"At this point"? Where it came from wasn't political to begin with. To connect this disease to politicians is absurd.
And the virus doesn't recognize lines on a map. Another total absurdity.
Wash your hands - keep away from sick people. Live your life."
 
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12/17/2020 01:02PM  
I have it currently. Saturday and Sunday I had some of the worst back pain in my life. Had a minor cough and a mild headache. I tested positive on Monday. I'm on day 6, still no fever, my oxygen level is 93-96%, I can taste and smell, during the day my back pain isn't as bad as it is at night; it's still there but I still function. I wake up after a few hours at night and the pain is unbearable. Moving and stretching helps. My wife and son got tested this morning. I'm pretty sure my son has it also. My wife shows no symptoms however. I really hope that she doesn't get it.
 
MichiganMan
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12/18/2020 08:31PM  
Hang in there Northwoodsman. Praying for you and your family.
 
andym
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12/19/2020 03:40PM  
Hope you recover quickly Northwoodsman and that your wife and son are ok.
 
Northwoodsman
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12/19/2020 06:12PM  
Thanks andym and MM. Nothing as scary as hearing the words "you tested positive". Particularly as I'm still recovering from a stroke earlier this year. I never thought at 56 I'd be dealing with these type of things.
 
12/19/2020 06:46PM  
Hang in there, Joel.
 
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12/19/2020 07:46PM  
Not me, but my brother-in-law died just this past week from Covid.
 
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12/25/2020 10:21PM  
WHendrix: "Not me, but my brother-in-law died just this past week from Covid."
Sorry for your loss.

Thanks Boonie! Merry Christmas my friend.
 
andym
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12/29/2020 05:49AM  
Northwoodsman, I hope your family is getting better. I understand the feeling of dealing with health issues earlier than one imagined. I was 44 when I was diagnosed with lymphoma and started a battle that lasted until I was almost 60. But I’m now 2 years past all treatment. It can shake our view of ourselves to our core. But there is still lots of good life left. I don’t know how severe your stroke was but I have seen friends make great progress even if it can be slow. I hope 2021 is a year of healing for you.

WHendrix, I am very sorry for your loss.
 
heavylunch
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12/31/2020 10:41AM  
Northwoodsman: "Thanks andym and MM. Nothing as scary as hearing the words "you tested positive". Particularly as I'm still recovering from a stroke earlier this year. I never thought at 56 I'd be dealing with these type of things."

Northwoodsman, how are things going for your family now? I hope better.

My wife's mom and her husband both got it a couple weeks ago (likely from his work) and breezed right through it. Hard for both of us to believe given how terrible it was for my parents.



 
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12/31/2020 10:45AM  
WHendrix: "Not me, but my brother-in-law died just this past week from Covid."

Wow, sorry for your loss. Very sad...
 
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12/31/2020 12:08PM  
I got it in early October. Went through my hockey teams, and I subsequently passed it on to my wife. We got sick while on vacation in upper Michigan and had to come back a few days early. We were sick together, at home, for two weeks.

Mike
 
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12/31/2020 12:47PM  
I got it the end of October 2 nights with a fever and fatigue for 4 days. I'm 59 and I thought it was not as bad as some flu's I've had over time.
 
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01/03/2021 09:05PM  
heavylunch: "Northwoodsman: "Thanks andym and MM. Nothing as scary as hearing the words "you tested positive". Particularly as I'm still recovering from a stroke earlier this year. I never thought at 56 I'd be dealing with these type of things."

Northwoodsman, how are things going for your family now? I hope better.

My wife's mom and her husband both got it a couple weeks ago (likely from his work) and breezed right through it. Hard for both of us to believe given how terrible it was for my parents.

"


I'm doing much better. I was due to be released from quarantine on the 24th however I woke up that morning with a fever of 106.1 and an oxygen level at 81. I was admitted to the hospital; I had a blood clot in my leg and Pulmonary Embolisms (aka PE, blood clots in the lungs). Ironically I tested negative that day so the virus was not active but the symptoms and side effects finally showed up. I had 5 different doctors - infectious disease, lung, hematologist, kidney, and a general hospitalist that coordinated everything. I was given antibiotics, blood thinners, steroids, and oxygen. I felt much better within 24 hours. I was only in the hospital for 72 hours. They tell me that I'll be short of breath for 90 days or so. My son tested positive but never showed any serious symptoms and my wife tested negative and has still dodged the bullet.

I see two problems - 1) televisits with doctors. They can't hear your lungs or your breathing over the phone. They are making decisions based on the information that you provide. 2) If you go to the hospital too early they may or may not give you some meds but will most likely send you home. When do you go back? At what point is it serious enough to require treatment? It's more luck than anything. You can take tylenol or ibuprofen to treat the symptoms (body aches, headache, fever, etc.) but that may be covering up more serious issues. When the doctor asks do you have a cough, a fever, a headache, or body aches and you have been taking Tylenol, Robitusson, and ibuprofen and answer "no", you better hope that he/she asks if you are taking any medications to treat yourself. If they don't ask be sure to tell them!
 
01/03/2021 10:43PM  
When I tested positive my doctor told me to start taking:

1. Low dose aspirin because the covid-19 virus can cause clots in some people.
2. Pepsid because I was now taking aspirin and it would help with any stomach issues that aspirin may cause.
3. 2000mg vitamin C
4. 5000mg vitamin D
5. 25mg zinc

He referenced a study that was recently completed on the effectiveness of taking the above on the virus.

***I'm not a doctor so I do not recommend anyone taking the above without speaking to their doctor first***
 
andym
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01/04/2021 02:57AM  
Northwoodsman, that sounds rough and I'm glad you are doing better. That is very good advice about tylenol... and fevers and how to make sure doctors get the full picture. When on chemo and such, we were generally told not to take tylenol unless we called first and got permission. Masking fevers and missing an infection was a big worry. It makes sense here.

One thing we can do at home for COVID-19 monitoring is checking pulse-ox with the meters that go on the finger. I got one early in the pandemic and so far have just used it for interest. But it is there in case we have cause to monitor for disease.

Telemedicine is interesting. I've had a few appointments that way since the pandemic started. But there is a lot that can't be checked.
 
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01/08/2021 11:03AM  
My wife was tested yesterday. She said it felt like a sinus infection but, her doctor would not see her until she had a covid test. Now we are quarantined until the test results are in. She said she feels better today after taking sinus meds. We follow all the guidelines that the cdc has issued.
 
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01/08/2021 06:16PM  
Having had it and recovered, I'm happy to read that its very probable I'm immune. Small blessing.
 
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01/09/2021 11:42AM  
Sorry but I have not read all of the posts above (maybe read about half of them).
I have not personally contracted Covid 19 but I have 2 couples that are friends and
all 4 of them had it and got pretty sick. Not sick enough to be hospitalized but
were pretty miserable. I also know another couple and the husband tested positive
before a colonoscopy but never had any symptoms.
My wife's Mother contracted Covid on Dec. 7th, or at least that is when she was
tested positive. She died 4 days later and we buried her on Dec. 17th.
She was 90 and in a Nursing Home. Her Nurse said that she was not done with life
and definitely had more years left in her. My wife got to say goodbye to her over
the Nurse's personal phone.
Larry S
 
andym
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01/13/2021 12:44AM  
Larry, my condolences on the passing of your mother-in-law. That is such a difficult way to lose someone.

Blutofish, I hope your wife is doing well.
 
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01/14/2021 10:04AM  
plander: "I’m a retired male in my early 50’s.


My wife and I took an Uber to/from a bar for a friend’s birthday celebration on March 15, 2020. Other than that we were taking care to not expose ourselves to others for the previous few weeks (not going out, ordering groceries to be delivered, no socializing with friends, etc). Going out that night was a mistake.


Developed symptoms March 19.
Tested on March 26.
Positive test results communicated to me March 28.


My symptoms were sinus pain/headache, lower back pain, mild fever, and loss of smell. I’ve had asthma my whole life but had no respiratory issues with the virus.


Recovered from most symptoms within a week, however, I still have a nearly complete loss of smell and taste. Foods taste way different and what little I can currently smell it is more of an acrid odor that I pick up. Can’t really smell herbs and spices and I do a fair amount of the cooking for the family. Yes, it’s been over six months and not much has changed on this front since the initial symptoms subsided.


My wife and son (19 yr old) never displayed any significant symptoms but we assume they had contracted the virus given we live in the same house together. "


This whole thing sucks. I wanted to add that losing sense of smell and taste is not exclusive to COVID-19. I had a bad cold 3 years ago. Lost smell and most taste. I could only taste bitter, sweet, salty things. Steak and chicken, nothing.
Smell issue was funny. Everything smelled like Kona Coffee and randomly smell tobacco smoke sitting in my house. This year has seen vast improvement with taste. Smell is still off.

 
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01/14/2021 11:22AM  
Wharfrat63: "...I wanted to add that losing sense of smell and taste is not exclusive to COVID-19. I had a bad cold 3 years ago. Lost smell and most taste. I could only taste bitter, sweet, salty things...
Smell issue was funny. Everything smelled like Kona Coffee and randomly smell tobacco smoke sitting in my house..."

Scientists have identified taste receptors that recognize only five basic taste modalities: sweet, sour, salty, savory, and bitter. Some believe fats may also be tasted rather than just experienced by texture. The rest of your taste perceptions come from smell.

I asked a coworker who had COVID a few weeks ago if the lost of smell and taste was like what happens with a bad cold. He said it was very different. With a bad cold the loss of sense and phantom perceptions come from mucus congestion. He said with COVID there was no congestion and he thought the virus was directly binding to receptor cells. The husband of a niece of mine had only the loss of smell and taste as a symptom. He could not even sense spiciness, which comes from an altogether different class of receptor cells.

 
01/14/2021 01:49PM  
"Everything smelled like Kona Coffee and randomly smell tobacco smoke."

Two months after covid this is exactly what I smell still.
 
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01/15/2021 02:56AM  
airmorse: ""Everything smelled like Kona Coffee and randomly smell tobacco smoke."


Two months after covid this is exactly what I smell still."


It's fascinating that two senses of smell are skewed exactly the same way.
 
01/15/2021 06:38AM  
missmolly: "airmorse: ""Everything smelled like Kona Coffee and randomly smell tobacco smoke."



Two months after covid this is exactly what I smell still."



It's fascinating that two senses of smell are skewed exactly the same way. "


It's a damn weird thing, I can go outside and take a breath and all I smell is "burnt". It will even wake me from a sleep. I will wake up to a small of old burnt cigarettes. Yuck!

My morning coffee smells like burnt bacon.
 
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01/15/2021 08:41AM  
I'm just glad you're still going outside and taking a breath, airmorse, but that old cigarette smell must be annoying as Hell.
 
01/15/2021 08:52AM  
missmolly: "I'm just glad you're still going outside and taking a breath, airmorse, but that old cigarette smell must be annoying as Hell. "

Lets all hope for a healthy new year.
 
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01/15/2021 11:38AM  
airmorse: "missmolly: "I'm just glad you're still going outside and taking a breath, airmorse, but that old cigarette smell must be annoying as Hell. "


Lets all hope for a healthy new year."


Hear, hear, for a healthy year.
 
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01/16/2021 05:37AM  
Back in October, my wife was exposed to a positive person. We were both tested. She was positive and I was negative. Her worst symptoms was loss of smell.
 
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01/21/2021 02:05PM  
We're around 1 in 13 or 14 of US population have or do have it; 1 in around 815 dead. Deaths are around 2/3 of Civil War and about equal to WW I. Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
 
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01/30/2021 05:14PM  
billconner: "We're around 1 in 13 or 14 of US population have or do have it; 1 in around 815 dead. Deaths are around 2/3 of Civil War and about equal to WW I. Lies, damn lies, and statistics."

LOL In 2018 there were 3.8 times more people who died from all causes than died in the civil war. So, what does that tell you?
 
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01/30/2021 06:25PM  
I’ve got it right now. My boss got it last week and we shut the office down and worked from home. I knew I was sick, but was hoping it was just a cold. Taste and smell went out like a light switch about 4 days ago so I went for the test. Figured if I had it, I wanted documentation of it and when symptoms started so I could get back to work sooner.

The cold part of it has been more or less like a normal cold for me, some chest tightness, but not bad. I kept working through most of it, but yesterday I gave up at lunch and went to sleep. Taking a break and getting some rest seems to help everyone I’ve known who has had it more than anything.
 
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01/30/2021 06:31PM  
12% increase 2020 over 2019 by one report. Hindsight is always 20-20 but it sure seems it could gave been fewer. My condolences to those who have lost friends and loved ones.
 
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01/30/2021 08:58PM  
billconner: "12% increase 2020 over 2019 by one report. Hindsight is always 20-20 but it sure seems it could gave been fewer. My condolences to those who have lost friends and loved ones."
I got it, my wife got it. My nephew got it and is in ICU. But IMHO, it is a really bad flu. If you have co-morbidities, it will be a problem for you, otherwise, it is the flu season.
 
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01/30/2021 09:29PM  
My ex'es son, Jeff, died from it last week. No comorbidities; he was 41. He was a great and caring guy. Say what you want about it being "just a flu" or whatever. We are all capable of, and great at, rationalization, and we all want to be right. So did he. For the majority of people it won't be too bad. For many others it will be much worse. There is no guarantee you won't be that unlucky one. We spend millions of dollars on lottery tickets every week for a one in a bunch of millions chance of winning a lot of money. The odds are very much greater of dying from this than winning that. Be smart and protect yourself and those you love, as well as the rest of us.
 
01/30/2021 10:11PM  
mapsguy1955: "My ex'es son, Jeff, died from it last week. No comorbidities; he was 41. He was a great and caring guy. Say what you want about it being "just a flu" or whatever. We are all capable of, and great at, rationalization, and we all want to be right. So did he. For the majority of people it won't be too bad. For many others it will be much worse. There is no guarantee you won't be that unlucky one. We spend millions of dollars on lottery tickets every week for a one in a bunch of millions chance of winning a lot of money. The odds are very much greater of dying from this than winning that. Be smart and protect yourself and those you love, as well as the rest of us. "

Sorry for your loss.
 
andym
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01/31/2021 06:44AM  
mapsguy1955: "My ex'es son, Jeff, died from it last week. No comorbidities; he was 41. He was a great and caring guy. Say what you want about it being "just a flu" or whatever. We are all capable of, and great at, rationalization, and we all want to be right. So did he. For the majority of people it won't be too bad. For many others it will be much worse. There is no guarantee you won't be that unlucky one. We spend millions of dollars on lottery tickets every week for a one in a bunch of millions chance of winning a lot of money. The odds are very much greater of dying from this than winning that. Be smart and protect yourself and those you love, as well as the rest of us. "

Please accept my condolences for such a tragic loss.
 
01/31/2021 08:59AM  
Very sorry for your loss.
 
01/31/2021 10:17AM  
TechnoScout: "billconner: "12% increase 2020 over 2019 by one report. Hindsight is always 20-20 but it sure seems it could gave been fewer. My condolences to those who have lost friends and loved ones."
I got it, my wife got it. My nephew got it and is in ICU. But IMHO, it is a really bad flu. If you have co-morbidities, it will be a problem for you, otherwise, it is the flu season.
"


Medically and scientifically speaking this is not a “bad flu”. In my medical system we have had 400 deaths this year directly attributed to COVID. We have about 10 per year of the flu. In addition to the deaths are the survivors that have long term problems. I already posted this in another thread but in my clinic we see about 4 patients per week with long term cardiovascular issues directly due to COVID. Examples are 7-8 year olds that can longer do sports, a 25 year old potential Olympic marathoner that cannot walk 200 feet. Their lives will be forever altered and they are young and have no co-morbidity’s. Yes most people will be fine...but TOO MANY will not be fine. I’ve been in health care 23 years and we’ve never seen this.

On the other side if you know people working on the frontlines you would not make this statement. ICU and ER docs on call 24 hours. They don’t have schedules or time off. A common example is a nurse gets a call at 8 PM Sunday to be at the Hospital by 10 PM—-works until 6 am. Then gets a call at noon they need her back at 1 pm. They can can say No but they don’t as the patients need help. Heck I am just a PT and we get asked to work extra hours wherever we can fill in. Every month I was working a string of 12 days in a row 10-12 hour days. I’ve got it easy compared to many—-but don’t health care employees deserve to be with their families? What’s the long term toll on their health? No flu has EVER done this!

T
 
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01/31/2021 10:54AM  
mapsguy1955: "My ex'es son, Jeff, died from it last week. No comorbidities; he was 41. He was a great and caring guy. Say what you want about it being "just a flu" or whatever. We are all capable of, and great at, rationalization, and we all want to be right. So did he. For the majority of people it won't be too bad. For many others it will be much worse. There is no guarantee you won't be that unlucky one. We spend millions of dollars on lottery tickets every week for a one in a bunch of millions chance of winning a lot of money. The odds are very much greater of dying from this than winning that. Be smart and protect yourself and those you love, as well as the rest of us. "

41 is too young. Without this damn virus, he had so many more years to live. Because he was a great and caring guy, his great loss is our loss too. The world needs great and caring guys. Thanks for the reminder to protect ourselves and the ones we love.

 
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01/31/2021 11:01AM  
T, my heart breaks for your profession. The Washington Post and the New York Times have done a thorough job of giving your profession a platform, so I have read dozens of similar accounts of what you and your colleagues are enduring because too many Americans aren't willing to sacrifice. I curtsy to you and if you look closely, you'll see my eyes are shining.

 
missmolly
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01/31/2021 11:01AM  
T, my heart breaks for your profession. The Washington Post and the New York Times have done a thorough job of giving your profession a platform, so I have read dozens of similar accounts of what you and your colleagues are enduring because too many Americans aren't willing to sacrifice. I curtsy to you and if you look closely, you'll see my eyes are shining.

 
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01/31/2021 11:01AM  
T, my heart breaks for your profession. The Washington Post and the New York Times have done a thorough job of giving your profession a platform, so I have read dozens of similar accounts of what you and your colleagues are enduring because too many Americans aren't willing to sacrifice. I curtsy to you and if you look closely, you'll see my eyes are shining.

 
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01/31/2021 11:28AM  
Thank you everyone. And sincerely thank you Timatkn. You are doing the tough work. I can't thank you enough. My wife is an LPN in a nursing home and on her wing alone, they have lost almost 40 people attributed to COVID. Sure, they are older and most have comorbidities, but they all died before their time, and they all died alone. We, as a nation that believes in a "rugged individuality", are better than this. These are all lives and they are all important. It is implied that EVERY life is important. Freedom isn't freedom if it is selective as to who gets it. Why can't we respect and appreciate that?
 
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01/31/2021 04:43PM  


Medically and scientifically speaking this is not a “bad flu”. In my medical system we have had 400 deaths this year directly attributed to COVID. We have about 10 per year of the flu. In addition to the deaths are the survivors that have long term problems. I already posted this in another thread but in my clinic we see about 4 patients per week with long term cardiovascular issues directly due to COVID. Examples are 7-8 year olds that can longer do sports, a 25 year old potential Olympic marathoner that cannot walk 200 feet. Their lives will be forever altered and they are young and have no co-morbidity’s. Yes most people will be fine...but TOO MANY will not be fine. I’ve been in health care 23 years and we’ve never seen this.


On the other side if you know people working on the frontlines you would not make this statement. ICU and ER docs on call 24 hours. They don’t have schedules or time off. A common example is a nurse gets a call at 8 PM Sunday to be at the Hospital by 10 PM—-works until 6 am. Then gets a call at noon they need her back at 1 pm. They can can say No but they don’t as the patients need help. Heck I am just a PT and we get asked to work extra hours wherever we can fill in. Every month I was working a string of 12 days in a row 10-12 hour days. I’ve got it easy compared to many—-but don’t health care employees deserve to be with their families? What’s the long term toll on their health? No flu has EVER done this!


T"

I would not argue with your experience.
However, I think there are two important metrics to understand this
1) Excess deaths (CDC reports this weekly)
2) Life years lost

For number 1, there are clearly excess deaths during this pandemic. It will be most revealing in six to nine months to see where we are. My guess is that we will fall well below the average in excess deaths. My reasoning is that those most vulnerable have had their end date moved in a bit.
For number 2, it is well established that COVID hits the elderly the hardest and has an almost nil effect on youth. Thus, COVID has a low LYL statistic compared to say, typical influenza.

As I said, I had it, my wife had it, and I have a nephew whom I dearly love in ICU and on ECMO. In spite of my fear of losing my nephew, I cannot analyze COVID by anecdote.
 
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01/31/2021 05:33PM  
Scout, you are analyzing by anecdote when you lead in one post with the data of you and your wife and your nephew having had it and close with the same info in another. When I write professionally, I always lead and close with what I consider to be the most salient information.

Now, before Andy admonishes me for veering off-thread, I did wait until Scout made his point and then expanded upon it.
 
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01/31/2021 07:16PM  
Don’t worry, I had already decided against a second request to keep the thread focused on supporting each other through personal illness. I think it will get back there on its own.

On just illness around us, my mother’s senior community had managed an amazing record until very recently. But it got scary recently and she was quarantined due to contacts with positive cases. Four people she knows died in the last week and a few more are in the hospital. So far she’s ok and had her first vaccine this week. So I’m hopeful that I will see her again while those other families won’t have the chance.

Also, one of the most influential people in my field died from COVID yesterday. He led the way on understanding how society deals with disasters and warnings. So ironic that he was lost to one where messaging has been so problematic.
 
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01/31/2021 08:04PM  
One of my paddling pals died from COVID today. I've written about him here at bwca and in four magazines. I started a story that mentions him for the New York Times a couple weeks ago and finished it about an hour before I was told of his death.

I'm thinking a good thought for your mother, Andy. Even now, COVID antibodies are being manufactured by her body.
 
01/31/2021 08:19PM  
missmolly: "One of my paddling pals died from COVID today. I've written about him here at bwca and in four magazines. I started a story that mentions him for the New York Times a couple weeks ago and finished it about an hour before I was told of his death.


I'm thinking a good thought for your mother, Andy. Even now, COVID antibodies are being manufactured by her body. "


MM, I'm sorry for your loss.
 
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01/31/2021 10:23PM  
I’m so sorry, Miss Molly. I’m sure the article will be a lovely tribute and look forward to reading it.

And yes, those antibodies give me hope.
 
02/01/2021 08:40AM  
Sorry for your loss MM
 
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02/01/2021 09:12AM  
Thanks, guys.

Say, T, the Washington Post has an article up today about a lineman for the Kansas City Chiefs who chose to use his medical degree to fight COVID instead of playing for the Chiefs this year. If you can access it, it's a great read and the lineman reminds me of Pat Tillman, walking away from the $$$ and fame of football to go fight the harder fight.
 
02/01/2021 10:18PM  
Yep saw the story in November the HOF added a stand in Canton to honor him and his decision. He is missing out on the Super Bowl this year, gotta respect him...getting paid less, his risk of exposure was probably higher, he chose to help people after seeing what was needed.

Can’t access the Washington post article not a subscriber.

T
 
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02/26/2021 05:27PM  
I did. Tested positive on 11/5 and it was fairly mild for the two week duration, but I did notice a bit of breathing issues during the later period - nothing warranting hospitalization thankfully.

That said, December came around and was getting back into the groove but I didn’t feel like I kicked it like a cold or flu. On 12/30 I checked in with my doctor to get a post COVID checkup and told him my chest tighteness. Thankfully the lungs and heart sounded healthy but a di-dimer test was high, an indicator of clot proteins. I had a CT the next day and found pulmonary embolisms in the lower lobes of my lungs.

I’ve been on blood thinners since, but hopefully March is the final month... If not, I’m not sure what to do about a BWCA trip. I guess I’ll need to take gloves and a SPOT, but I’d hate to ruin the trip for the guys.

Anyone else visit the BWCA on blood thinners?
 
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02/26/2021 06:18PM  
I've been on blood thinners for 7 or 8 years and have never given canoe or back pack trips a thought of changing my ways of doing it.
 
02/26/2021 07:09PM  
Yes, I've been on blood thinners since the heart attack in 2016. No changes because of blood thinners, just take plenty of Band-Aids.
 
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02/28/2021 06:49AM  
 
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03/11/2021 09:28AM  
I had it in august of 2020. Small family get together. 12 people, 10 got it. I never had a symptoms and my wife never tested positive. Had vaccination few weeks ago.
 
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03/13/2021 01:39PM  
Well, I went in for the test this morning. Symptoms came on like a sledgehammer yesterday. Ended up with a steroid prescription for my lungs. My O2 was 89/90 and the doctor wanted to take me for a CT scan to make sure there are no clots. I waffled on that so she gave me the steroid instead with my promise I would hustle right back if things worsened.

Got a finger monitor to keep track. I hate being sick. My head feels ready to explode.
 
03/13/2021 02:12PM  
Mocha: "Well, I went in for the test this morning. Symptoms came on like a sledgehammer yesterday. Ended up with a steroid prescription for my lungs. My O2 was 89/90 and the doctor wanted to take me for a CT scan to make sure there are no clots. I waffled on that so she gave me the steroid instead with my promise I would hustle right back if things worsened.


Got a finger monitor to keep track. I hate being sick. My head feels ready to explode."


Mocha don't mess around go get the CT scan!

I hope you get better with no complications.
 
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03/13/2021 10:04PM  
I agree. Don't mess around with clots. I had a swollen leg once and to rule out clots they did an immediate ultrasound. Immediate meant don't leave the clinic before we do the test. I've had many CT scans. They are very quick and not bad to go through. The modern scanners are also much lower radiation doses than they were 20 years ago. So I wouldn't fear one.

Funny story, while waiting for a CT scan I was reading a news article about how the new generation of scanners was better with less radiation. I was then very happy when I went into the scan room and saw the machine pictured in the article!
 
03/14/2021 09:04AM  
Mocha, I would also start taking low dose aspirin to help prevent clots.
 
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03/14/2021 12:45PM  
After all this great advice and lectures from family I am back at urgent care get prepped for the scan. They only admit people who are really really suck so I crossed my fingers and didn't say my goodbyes
 
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03/14/2021 02:06PM  
Good for you, Mocha. Hope you get good results.
 
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03/14/2021 04:59PM  
Well, 3 hours later, no clots but some nodules or something. Evidence of COVID present. Doesn’t explain the low oxygen level but I “should try to keep it above 90”. That’s great advice but no instructions on how to do this. I hate the MyChart method of discussion. The doctor couldn’t take the few minutes to call me with this, instead the more is transcribed from her and emailed. Dont get me wrong, I’m ecstatic there are no clots.

Then I get a call from county health nurse with questions and her finding was that I am cleared to return to work on Tuesday. I laughed at her. I asked her how on earth they come up with these assessments when they know nothing of my doctor visits and subsequent issues. She says she just follows the guidelines. Well, perhaps the guidelines are sending people back into the real world before they are really ready.
So she changed my date to the 22nd which is more reasonable considering how I feel..
She was really more interested in collecting as many names as I could Give her of who I had contact with. Good thing I’m a hermit. I had already given my employer all this info and contacted the two co workers I had been around since I don’t trust my employer to contact them. We all have tried to work as far apart or even in separate rooms so I feel pretty good about being a nonspreader.

All in all I will just rest and practice breathing deeply.

Thanks again for all the advice, I’m happy I went and have peace of mind.
 
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03/14/2021 06:21PM  
Mocha, does "Evidence of COVID present." Mean you tested positive for Covid-19?
 
03/14/2021 06:42PM  
There is evidence that by sleeping on your stomach it increases lung capacity with people that have Covid.

Evidence of Covid most likely means scar tissue. But I'm no doctor.

Did they write you a script for home O2?
 
03/14/2021 07:21PM  
After my positive test my state called me. They wanted to ask me questions. I said how long was this going to take as I was fixing dinner.

An hour and a half later, dinner cooked, eaten, and kitchen cleaned up, the interview ended.

I told the lady that the questions were totally irrelevant. And I would not give her answers to some like my DOB, SS number, who I worked for, or what I do for a living. I did tell the person who I got covid from. She could have cared less. She was more interested in asking me stupid round hole square peg questions like when and where was the last time I went clubin'. To which I said Clubin' I'm in my 50's I don't do that and never have. Next question!!!

Mocha I hope you get better quickly.
 
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03/14/2021 08:12PM  
Yes, I did test positive..

No scrip for anything other than the steroid for 10 days.

I have been conversing with my paddle partner who lives on the gunflint trail. She is 50 ish and got the vaccine. She said cook county is 40% vaccinated? That seems high but great if true.

She also said they are a vaccine tourism destinAtion. Cool.

No home oxygen. Not sure how reliable the home finger monitors are so I’ll go back to have that checked if it’s continually reading 94 or less.

My man also tested positive and at the same time has shingles! Not fun time in our house right now.
 
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03/15/2021 07:14AM  
Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery.
 
03/15/2021 09:01AM  
Thinking of you Mocha!
 
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03/15/2021 01:27PM  
Oh, Mocha. I'm thinking good thoughts for you.
 
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03/15/2021 01:31PM  
Wow, COVID and shingles between the two of you. That's a lot to deal with. Hope you start feeling better soon.

I do think the finger monitors work well. They are basically the same thing they use in the hospital. What worries me is that a lot of new brands showed up soon after COVID started and so I worry about quality control. I would look for an older brand and maybe one of the ones sold by REI or other outdoor stores for mountaineering. I got a very small one made by Wellue that seems to work well. If it wasn't for COVID, I could take it to medical appointments and check it against their machines. But all of my appointments have been virtual. We did that once with a home digital thermometer and it did fine against the much more expensive ones used in the clinic.
 
03/15/2021 02:33PM  
Wife tested positive last wed. on routine testing reuired from work(UW system). She has been very good at mask wearing and all other protocol but a girl at work (with less than stellar habits) infected 7 people. Despite my wife's best efforts, she was one of them. She was fairly sick fri/sat but working ok from home today. We have been social distanced in our house for a week. I did a lot of yard work. I tested neg. last wed and tested today....results pending. Work told me to stay home. I have an early morning herd check at a fairly large farm that I am doing in morning (free stall barn, big time social distanced from farmer, etc) and feel safe doing it. The whole family at this farm had it back in January. Hopefully, my second negative will come back tomorrow afternoon to clear me.
It's very frustrating to have kept Covid at bay for a year and now, with a light at the end of the tunnel, it rears its ugly head in my household. We were up for vaccine soon but now I'm not sure what protocol is for wait time after infection......at least for my wife. I will be getting it asap if I retest neg.
 
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03/15/2021 06:41PM  
Interesting question about how long after positive test for vaccine. I read of many experts saying uf you recovered you should go to back of vaccine line, but never saw it adopted. It seems vast majority of recovered are immune for at least 8 months, about as long as they have good data for, maybe much longer or lifetime. Unknown.

All I know that 4 months after recovery, my reaction to first dose was tough, like most to second, and second dose reaction doubly bad. May want to schedule time off.
 
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03/15/2021 06:45PM  
cowdoc: "Wife tested positive last wed. on routine testing reuired from work(UW system). She has been very good at mask wearing and all other protocol but a girl at work (with less than stellar habits) infected 7 people. Despite my wife's best efforts, she was one of them. She was fairly sick fri/sat but working ok from home today. We have been social distanced in our house for a week. I did a lot of yard work. I tested neg. last wed and tested today....results pending. Work told me to stay home. I have an early morning herd check at a fairly large farm that I am doing in morning (free stall barn, big time social distanced from farmer, etc) and feel safe doing it. The whole family at this farm had it back in January. Hopefully, my second negative will come back tomorrow afternoon to clear me.
It's very frustrating to have kept Covid at bay for a year and now, with a light at the end of the tunnel, it rears its ugly head in my household. We were up for vaccine soon but now I'm not sure what protocol is for wait time after infection......at least for my wife. I will be getting it asap if I retest neg."


You're right, Doc; That would be frustrating. I hope the girl at work with less than stellar habits is shown the door.
 
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03/18/2021 11:43AM  
Doc and Mocha, how are you faring?
 
03/18/2021 01:39PM  
I hope you guys recover quickly and completely.
 
03/18/2021 08:10PM  
I social distanced from my wife successfully......in my own house. Had my third negative test today and go back to work tomorrow. Wife is tired and has a little lingering cough but has been working remotely from home. She can go back to work Monday. Just a frustrating little bump in the road. Thankful it was no worse.
 
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03/19/2021 07:15AM  
cowdoc: "I social distanced from my wife successfully......in my own house. Had my third negative test today and go back to work tomorrow. Wife is tired and has a little lingering cough but has been working remotely from home. She can go back to work Monday. Just a frustrating little bump in the road. Thankful it was no worse."

I'm thankful too, Doc.
 
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03/22/2021 06:21PM  
cowdoc: "I social distanced from my wife successfully......in my own house. Had my third negative test today and go back to work tomorrow. Wife is tired and has a little lingering cough but has been working remotely from home. She can go back to work Monday. Just a frustrating little bump in the road. Thankful it w LAas no worse.". Good job, Doc!
 
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03/22/2021 06:22PM  
Well, this illness has not been a joy ride. As things stand I should return to work tomorrow. I'm not going back yet.
I still have a few of the more irritable symptoms plus can't shake the wracking cough that comes on if I breathe too deep or try to talk.
After my ct scan I was put on dexamethasone, 6mg, once a day for 10 days. On day 4 I broke out in all over body hives, my hands and feet started to swell and my vision got wonky. I stopped taking it, called the urgent care and the advice I was given was to continue taking it because the benefits outweighed this rare side effect.
Hmmm....it's not rare and it's listed fairly near the top of the extensive list.
Plus, my medical history is pretty clear about allergic reactions to antibiotics, why not steroids too yet? I tried explaining this but since it was my choice to stop the med they basically were done with me
No other options if what might help open my lungs, what to do for the rash...
I was very discouraged . My o2 level ranged from 89-92. There's no worse feeling than going to bed wondering if I'll wake up the next day.
And worse, both people in my house have it, which had actually turned out to be a blessing.
He had a chest x-ray today which showed presence of covid stuff, and we will have this cough for many weeks. He did get an antibiotic, I'm not sure if he was able to pick it up yet.
So I'm concerned he's going back to work part time in a fairly physical job. I don't want him getting worn down and then the gunk in his chest turns into something worse.
I might try a few hours later this week because I only need to be fever free.
The guidelines about this disease are baffling.
I only get 80 hours of covid leave. What happens to people that end up in the hospital? I'm not ever going to our hospital.
Maybe this illness has caused some bad feelings toward my immediate medical community, but I am not impressed with any agency that has contacted me since testing positive. They just want names and phone numbers and don't really care how you are feeling, just that your quarantine date is up so you are released back into society.

 
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03/22/2021 08:00PM  
Geez Mocha sorry its been such an ordeal. Hang in there and I'll keep sending prayers your way.
 
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03/23/2021 08:47PM  
I've been worried about you, Mocha, and I'm sad to read of your suffering. I'm thinking good thoughts for you.
 
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03/29/2021 09:35PM  
Got my 2nd shot of Moderna today...ohhh boy. Here we go.
 
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03/30/2021 02:31PM  
Had 101°temp last night.my arm ached and I had chills and shortness of breath.all good this afternoon.
 
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03/30/2021 04:50PM  
Mocha, I hope both of you are feeling better. It is very tough when you don't feel you can trust your doctors.
 
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03/30/2021 06:11PM  
Anybody know Mocha? Worried about her. It's been awhile since we heard anything.
 
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03/30/2021 08:31PM  
MichiganMan: "Anybody know Mocha? Worried about her. It's been awhile since we heard anything."

I'm worried too.
 
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03/31/2021 07:55AM  
Hello! I am in the land of the living. Back to work full days, very hard.
I still have joint aches, cough, side throat.
Got my fast back about 50 percent. Can't drink coffee, coke, chocolate tastes funny, any sugar items immediately cause cramping, and then guess what...
The other odd thing is I can't read very well it takes quite awhile to put the sentence I. The right order. I am a voracious reader, sometimes 3-4 books a week. Now... No interest!
I've been able to walk around the neighborhood park. It's usually a 10-15 minute walk on a paved path, takes me twice that and I sweat the entire time. Each day I notice improvement. It's tough breathing through the mask.my o2 is a pretty constAnt 93.

Thanks everyone for your encouragement and we'll wishes.
It worked!
 
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03/31/2021 08:01AM  
Mocha,

Even if you have mostly recovered, there can be a sudden crash days later that can happen over the course of just a few hours. Take it seriously and be careful.

They might put you on medicine to prevent the blood clots if they are detected.

The recovery process can take months as it is, if you aren't getting good care, by all means change health care systems. There are definitely good ones and not so good ones. Bigger isn't necessarily better either.
 
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03/31/2021 08:08AM  
Hi all,

By the way, the Spring Break bounce back of COVID is real. My wife works doing COVID testing in urgent care and they have had a significant spike in the last week from people coming back from spring break trips.

Take care and maybe try to work from home or hold off on Easter get togethers if you are just returning from travel. My parents of course both almost died from COVID. My coworker's family was not so lucky. Take care of your elders!
 
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03/31/2021 01:48PM  
Mocha, I'm glad you're still riding the big rock with us! Your change in reading is new to me. Have you read of others with the same symptom?
 
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03/31/2021 03:47PM  
I work with some people who have this issue plus one gal can't do addition. These people had the virus back in November and are just getting taste and smell back. I'll have to walk thru that building cuz normally it makes me want to puke, so then I'll know for sure.
 
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03/31/2021 08:10PM  
Mocha- glad you're at least somewhat ok! We'll keep ending the prayers your way for a full recovery. Hang in there and keep fighting!
 
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03/31/2021 10:32PM  
Hang in there, Mocha. And I agree with the advice to watch your health carefully. There can be a second stage to the disease for some people. In the meantime, keep walking. That's really good for you. Hope you make good progress on recovering.
 
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04/01/2021 07:08AM  
Mocha: "I work with some people who have this issue plus one gal can't do addition. These people had the virus back in November and are just getting taste and smell back. I'll have to walk thru that building cuz normally it makes me want to puke, so then I'll know for sure."

Man, it really worms into a brain, doesn't it? And the heart. And the lungs. And the kidneys. It is the ultimate trespasser.

My sister had it and now she has pleurisy a month and a half later. I suspect they're related.
 
04/04/2021 11:50AM  
nofish: "I was never tested but would like to get an antibody test to see if what I had late winter/early spring was covid. It hit me before covid was a major concern in the US but my illness matched the traditional covid symptoms perfectly.


I had off and on fever, the worst body aches I've ever had with an illness, chills, tightness in my chest, a 3-4 day headache that tylenol couldn't touch, and a cough that ended up lasting a month or more. Ended up missing a full week of work and then the following week I suffered through work while still feeling really run down. After 2 weeks I felt mostly back to normal except the cough that wouldn't go away.


I know several people that have tested postive for covid and what they described matched what I dealt with perfectly.


The symptoms all match but the timing is off based on what we know so I really don't know. I think mine hit late February early march. Maybe covid has been around a bit longer than we realize (entirely possible since testing was non-existent) or my family got hit by something else with the same symptoms. Of the 4 of us in the house 3 of us got sick. My son's experience was minor, my wife not as sick as I was but still not fun, and then me being the worst.



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Exact same experience. something went through our company a couple months before Covid became a thing. I think it was here much earlier. Many people travel from Asia to California. My wife is a flight attendant for Sun Country, and flies in the evenings to Cal quite often. She could have easily had it, been asymptomatic, passed it on to me, and then I may have passed it to everyone at work. I don't recall her ever having the symptoms. But just about everyone I work with did.

It's interesting, because none of those people at work, that showed those prior symptoms, have gotten Covid since then. We had one person at work get Covid, and it was the new guy, who was hired after all this blew up. And when he got it, the handful of people at work that he came in contact with all remained negative (non-antibody).

I truly believe the majority of people at my work had it prior to March of 2020. Everyone that had those symptoms, universally said they've never had anything like it. It was the same for everyone. Exactly like you reported. Although many of us just worked through it. We didn't know, we just thought it called it the crud.

I think I infected the guys on my hockey team. My brother plays with me, and drives over the road for UPS. He eventually got sick, as it spread through the team, and was concerned about spreading at UPS, because once it gets to the local drivers, it would spread like spokes on a wheel. But when he tried to get tested, they refused. It was very early in the process, and they just asked him if he had been to China or Italy, or had been near anyone who had been to China or Italy, and since he said no, they refused to test him. Both him and his co-driver had all those symptoms. Exactly matching covid.
 
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04/04/2021 02:46PM  
It's ridiculous to deny someone medical care they request. Doctors routinely tell you to take charge of your health. I have no idea what the test costs but if someone wants to be tested they should be able to be tested.
 
04/05/2021 07:47AM  
Mocha: "It's ridiculous to deny someone medical care they request. Doctors routinely tell you to take charge of your health. I have no idea what the test costs but if someone wants to be tested they should be able to be tested."

I am guessing here but from the description of the story this happened very early on when COVID first started and there was a very limited supply of tests. They only tested the most at risk or most likely infected. Obviously wasn’t ideal but out of necessity they had to ration tests early on. The tests are free through insurance, or free if you don’t have insurance. You can find sites that charge as well. Right now you can get a COVID test pretty easily, but that wasn't the case in the earlier circumstance.

T
 
04/19/2021 06:57AM  
my daughter- age 29- got this in Feb. 2020, there weren't test available, her roommate then got same illness pattern, then their cat(!) . Two weeks later, NYT article about first animal from human transmission to tigers at Bronx Zoo. They (all 3) were sick with the usual for about 3 unpleasant days, nothing after that.
to find out if they'd had it, they donated blood to the Red Cross a couple months later (a year ago now, April 2020). With antibodies positive, their serum ( the non-red part of blood) was used to treat some of the very sick, so they did a Good Thing, and got their tests done without charge or hassle. One of them (not the cat!) has donated again, they both (the people) have also had the Pfizer vaccine, with a pretty hellish 1 day after the first shot, probably meaning they had pretty effective existing antibodies.
 
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