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11/16/2020 08:14PM  
 
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inspector13
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11/17/2020 07:23AM  
 
JWilder
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11/17/2020 11:13AM  
These stories upset me greatly.

What is also upsetting is that the malicious intent and evilness of people does not shock me anymore...

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Savage Voyageur
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11/17/2020 11:25AM  
I hope they catch these people. No excuse for this. What could they possibly do with all that meat? Taking away their hunting privileges mean nothing to poachers. They need to take away their guns and put them on a no buy list. I hope they have stiff penalties for this in Canada.
 
11/17/2020 12:21PM  
I thought this last quote from the moose article was wonderful:

"If a person does come forward and admit what they did, I would put my portion [of the reward money] towards any of their legal fees,” said Woodhouse. “There’s so much negativity in the world today. It’s nice to just see some people banding together and trying to turn this into something positive.”

 
mjmkjun
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11/17/2020 07:16PM  
People who do atrocities like that do not come forward. Such have no decency. Zero integrity. Perhaps the reward money will inspire somebody to ID the guilty. I hope Canadian authorities can allow, just this once, a public whipping post along with a fine/prison. Oops. I've gone too far. Maybe.
 
yellowhorse
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11/18/2020 05:12AM  
As a skeptic to "news" articles (especially about hunting vs. poaching) I'll play devils advocate....is it possible hunters took the moose in what they thought was 100% legal? (I didn't realize white moose have legal protections). And Ontario moose hunting season runs thru Nov 15 in much of Ontario........

It certainly doesn't sound good but I always crave more to the stories that have screaming headlines.

I'm having a more difficult time justifying an honest mistake in the raptor news story. Tongue in cheek but perhaps a trapper accidentally trapped an eagle on a trap set up next to a deer carcass? But MULTIPLE raptors by accident?!? Would a scared 18 yo kid have the integrity to call fish and game in that odd scenario? Hmm all of this points to the smell test smelling rotten.

Both headlines are certainly disturbing but thats usually why they make the headlines. Cheers to hoping it's better than it sounds.
 
BearBurrito
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11/18/2020 03:39PM  
Those are both sad stories.
 
11/18/2020 04:03PM  
inspector13: "
Poachers in the suburbs.


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I bagged an Eagle one time, literally put it in a plastic bag.

The USFWS Law Enforcement Officers asked me to retrieve a dead eagle in Alaska one time. It kept washing up on shore and the public kept calling it in, they must have gotten tired of the calls and asked me to get it.
It was a couple miles walk up the ocean beach from the parking lot, the walk in was fine empty handed, but it was a heavy load hiking that wet dead bird back to my truck. Luckily some locals with a good 4 x 4 gave me a ride most of the way back. This bird was some sort of natural "mostly" death we surmised.
 
inspector13
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11/19/2020 07:57AM  

On two separate occasions members of my family encountered very sick eagles. Both had lead poisoning. They had ingested lead. The one outside of Hinckley MN died before making it to the raptor center. The other was in a field in Lake Elmo, a couple miles north of that dump site. That one made it. A permit is needed even for a shed eagle feather.

 
11/19/2020 09:06AM  
inspector13: "
A permit is needed even for a shed eagle feather.
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Correct, and I think also for many migratory bird feathers. A native from the White Earth Rez gave my wife an owl feather one time. "An owl feather is a sigh of strength". Since I worked for the US Fish and Wildlife Service I told my wife you/we can't have that feather in our house, I could get in serious trouble with it and could lose my job. She got rid of it, or so she told me.

Lots of reading here, Migratory Bird Treaty Act.

Quick link to what feathers one can and cannot have..
 
11/19/2020 09:15AM  
Swans were moulting in Wabakimi on one trip. I picked up a feather off the water and brought it home to my wife. Had no idea I was illegal on that...
 
11/19/2020 09:28AM  
rtallent: "Swans were moulting in Wabakimi on one trip. I picked up a feather off the water and brought it home to my wife. Had no idea I was illegal on that..."


I really don't know, it's above my pay grade.

Looks like Swan feathers are legal to posses, but it may depend on what kind. I'm not sure about bringing feathers across the international border without declaring them.

Wild Bird Conservation Act.
 
treehorn
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11/19/2020 02:24PM  
mjmkjun: "People who do atrocities like that do not come forward. Such have no decency. Zero integrity. Perhaps the reward money will inspire somebody to ID the guilty. I hope Canadian authorities can allow, just this once, a public whipping post along with a fine/prison. Oops. I've gone too far. Maybe.
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It cited right in the article an example of hunters who killed one not realizing it was a sacred animal, and came forward to make things right.

No idea if these guys did it unknowingly or not.
 
mjmkjun
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11/21/2020 05:55PM  
treehorn: "
mjmkjun: "People who do atrocities like that do not come forward. Such have no decency. Zero integrity. Perhaps the reward money will inspire somebody to ID the guilty. I hope Canadian authorities can allow, just this once, a public whipping post along with a fine/prison. Oops. I've gone too far. Maybe.
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It cited right in the article an example of hunters who killed one not realizing it was a sacred animal, and came forward to make things right.


No idea if these guys did it unknowingly or not."

OK, One guy came forward. My bad for overlooking it but clarifying my attitude: Unless a person has been living on the moon, there is a general awareness that most white buffalos, moose, deer, ape, tiger, etc. are very rare so why would hunters shoot one? Most are held sacred by Native Americans of differing tribes. Why would hunters shoot one? When I look down the barrel of a rifle and focus beyond past the bead, I'm sure of what I'm pointing at.
 
Zwater
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11/21/2020 08:52PM  
Shooting a piebald is not illegal.
One of my buddies has a 12 point piebald mounted.
The pic in the article is not of an albino moose.
Non-hunters raising a fuss..... again.
 
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