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12/12/2020 04:38PM
I'm interested in:
Pros and cons of 1.1 oz vs 1.9 oz (obvious cost savings with 1.9, weight savings with 1.1)
Size most of you use and number of people it serves well (I currently bring in a 12x12 Guide Gear and am leaning toward getting the CCS 10x14 even though our groups are usually only 2-6 people)
These are square/rectangular construction, right? vs my GG's catenary cut
Should I get extra cordage in addition to the 80 ft that comes with the tarp?
I have some Kelty poles that I may continue to use... (sacrilege, right?)
Again, apologies for harvesting your thoughts here rather than compiling search results...
Pros and cons of 1.1 oz vs 1.9 oz (obvious cost savings with 1.9, weight savings with 1.1)
Size most of you use and number of people it serves well (I currently bring in a 12x12 Guide Gear and am leaning toward getting the CCS 10x14 even though our groups are usually only 2-6 people)
These are square/rectangular construction, right? vs my GG's catenary cut
Should I get extra cordage in addition to the 80 ft that comes with the tarp?
I have some Kelty poles that I may continue to use... (sacrilege, right?)
Again, apologies for harvesting your thoughts here rather than compiling search results...
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Yogi Berra
12/12/2020 05:14PM
Schweady,
I have no experience with the 1.1 oz CCS. But I do have the 1.9, in the smaller square size (10 x 10?) and I've used it regularly (5-10 times/year), since purchase around 2006 or 2007. Even with all this use, the tarp is in "like new" condition. It still smells new. At this point, it has been on so many trips, with multiple different uses, that it is definitely in the "old friend" gear category. Sorry that I can't help with the actual compare, but the durability of this product is remarkable.
~Beth
I have no experience with the 1.1 oz CCS. But I do have the 1.9, in the smaller square size (10 x 10?) and I've used it regularly (5-10 times/year), since purchase around 2006 or 2007. Even with all this use, the tarp is in "like new" condition. It still smells new. At this point, it has been on so many trips, with multiple different uses, that it is definitely in the "old friend" gear category. Sorry that I can't help with the actual compare, but the durability of this product is remarkable.
~Beth
12/12/2020 05:28PM
I find the 1.1 just as durable and strong as 1.9. More expensive yes but considering the life expectancy of CCS tarps a very good deal. Size wise, the largest you can afford. I solo yet use either a 10x12 or 10x14.
this monster is a 15x15 Suncatcher and I strung up at a wingnite.
CCS is a flat cut tarp.
butthead
this monster is a 15x15 Suncatcher and I strung up at a wingnite.
CCS is a flat cut tarp.
butthead
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin
12/13/2020 12:17AM
Just think how much sadder it would be if we were carrying 1.9 oz tarps and it didn't rain!
Love my 1.1 oz CCS 10x10. If I was doing it again, I might go for a 10x14 or 10x16 for the extra flexibility of having a side down and still a fair bit of roof or just a larger area. That is based on discussions on the forum. But given that I will never wear out the 10x10, I will probably just live with that forever.
We did once turn the 10x10 into a low setup with side down to the ground facing a howling wind and a small roof. It was enough for 4 of us to sit under while eating during a howling storm. It's an awesome piece of equipment and held fast and was ready for breakfast too.
I carry some carbon fiber poles with ours. Sometimes they are needed but not always.
Love my 1.1 oz CCS 10x10. If I was doing it again, I might go for a 10x14 or 10x16 for the extra flexibility of having a side down and still a fair bit of roof or just a larger area. That is based on discussions on the forum. But given that I will never wear out the 10x10, I will probably just live with that forever.
We did once turn the 10x10 into a low setup with side down to the ground facing a howling wind and a small roof. It was enough for 4 of us to sit under while eating during a howling storm. It's an awesome piece of equipment and held fast and was ready for breakfast too.
I carry some carbon fiber poles with ours. Sometimes they are needed but not always.
12/13/2020 06:46AM
Mine is the 1.1 oz. and plenty tough enough. A larger one only adds a couple of ounces. I'd agree to get extra cordage and the ridge line stuff sack. Pre-rigged and in the ridge line stuff sack, simplifies set up and take down, especially solo.
12/13/2020 09:44AM
I agree about the ridgeline stuff sack. Really handy to have.
Here is a good video review of the stuff sack in use:
CCS Ridgeline Stuff Sack
"It is more important to live for the possibilities that lie ahead than to die in despair over what has been lost." -Barry Lopez
12/13/2020 02:00PM
schweady: "....Again, apologies for harvesting your thoughts here rather than compiling search results...”
Such a burden to impose on us, Schweady. You know how much we all hate talking about tarps.
FWIW, I have a 1.1 silnylon that’s 10x10. It’s not CSS, but home made. It’s been through many days of string wind and at least a couple heavy duty thunderstorms with winds in the 50-60mph range, and it shows not signs of damage or wear. 1.9 might be stronger, but 1.1 is certainly strong enough, and CCS is much better quality than my sewing machine can kick out.
My 10x10 covers me, my gear, and my two dogs pretty well, but I still have thoughts of going slightly bigger.
I like light colors as they are much easier to sit under all day on dark rainy days.
You will likely want more than 80 feet of rope, but you might consider buying a different cord. I use the CCS gold cord as my ridge line, and use a different color for the tie outs. It makes it really easy to spot what’s what.
12/13/2020 02:20PM
Thanks Schweady on the heads-up on the sale... I just ordered an 10x14 in green (brown, second choice)
We currently use a 10x12 in the 1.1 oz. It has held up remarkably well for many trips. It is fine for a group size of 2-3 but we find it tight for 4 or more. Especially when you consider cooking gear under it. Also it seems there are generally rocks and roots that chew into the useable space.
We currently use a 10x12 in the 1.1 oz. It has held up remarkably well for many trips. It is fine for a group size of 2-3 but we find it tight for 4 or more. Especially when you consider cooking gear under it. Also it seems there are generally rocks and roots that chew into the useable space.
12/13/2020 04:10PM
ghamer: "Thanks Schweady on the heads-up on the sale... I just ordered an 10x14 in green (brown, second choice)..."
Okay, so apparently I am a better salesman than shopper: While I spent time weighing my options, Rutabaga sold out of the 1.1 oz 10x14. Hmm. Maybe I'll still pick up the ridge line sack and some extra cordage and save those few $$.
Then, perhaps I'll just get the tarp itself from Dan. He can make full price and I can choose my color... :-)
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Yogi Berra
12/13/2020 05:20PM
schweady: "ghamer: "Thanks Schweady on the heads-up on the sale... I just ordered an 10x14 in green (brown, second choice)..."
Okay, so apparently I am a better salesman than shopper: While I spent time weighing my options, Rutabaga sold out of the 1.1 oz 10x14. Hmm. Maybe I'll still pick up the ridge line sack and some extra cordage and save those few $$.
Then, perhaps I'll just get the tarp itself from Dan. He can make full price and I can choose my color... :-)
"
Oh no! I haven't heard from them so I'm assuming either my 1st or 2nd choice was in stock.
Hopefully you are still able to pick one up... they are worth the $
12/26/2020 01:09PM
Northwoodsman: "10' x 14'. 1.1 oz. Extra cordage- reflective. Ridgeline Stuff Sack. Perfection!"
Yes!
I have a CCS 8x10 in 1.1 oz (robin egg blue & green) and 10x12 in 1.9 oz (green). I had a 10x16 in 1.9 oz (green) but was way too much tarp for a soloist. I didn't mind the weight of 1.9 oz but it's noticeable. I like a lot of room on those rainy or windy days. I like to fidget/mess with stuff in camp so want the room to move around + stash gear out of the rain.
P.S. The fella that bought the CCS 10 x 16 was shocked by its like-new condition. I bought it used from someone on this forum so he was the 3rd owner. Quality stuff that lasts when you take decent care.
“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton
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