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TexasEx94
 
02/14/2021 04:19PM  
I am hoping to purchase either a Wenonah 17, a Souris River Quetico 17, and/or a Northwind 17. Wanting to know how these rate on the “non-tippy” factor versus other canoes and also preferences/upside to each of these canoes
 
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billconner
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02/14/2021 05:59PM  
You might get more responses in Gear rather than Covid.
 
eroom
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02/25/2021 11:19AM  
I have a Souris River Q17 and find it extremely stabile, though my wife has fallen out a few times without tipping the whole thing over. She could fall out of a pontoon boat on a calm day. :-)
 
02/28/2021 07:55AM  
Design will answer the question. Flatter and wider hull bottoms are usually more stable, but also slower and require a bit more effort when paddling. Tumblehome (the bend on the side) narrows the distance between gunnels (nice as hands are less likely to hit the gunnel when paddling) and provide a secondary stability once seated or kneeling.
Another design feature to consider is rocker (the bend of the keel from bow to stern). More rocker makes turns easier, less rocker helps in maintaining a straight course.
Hope this helps. They are all great boats.
 
03/03/2021 08:16PM  
eroom: "I have a Souris River Q17 and find it extremely stabile, though my wife has fallen out a few times without tipping the whole thing over. She could fall out of a pontoon boat on a calm day. :-)"

Souris River very stable and now Wehnonah(sp) has copied it and has a canoe with almost the exact dimensions.
 
billconner
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03/04/2021 10:32AM  
The Nighthawk Canoes Leo is also similar, and built like the SR with ribs and epoxy. Maybe worth checking out.
 
PineKnot
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03/06/2021 10:11AM  
TexasEx94: "I am hoping to purchase either a Wenonah 17, a Souris River Quetico 17, and/or a Northwind 17. Wanting to know how these rate on the “non-tippy” factor versus other canoes and also preferences/upside to each of these canoes"

I've paddled the the Quetico 17 and found it very stable for fishing, can carry a huge payload, but it paddles like a tank imho. I own a Bell Northwind (17.5 ft) and it is much faster, very stable for fishing, and handles heavy waves really nicely. Been in the new Northstar Northwind and it seemed a bit bigger than the Bell, but that may just be the look without the tumblehome. Don't know much about the Wenonah 17, but if it's like the MN II, it'll be a fast boat but perhaps not quite as stable....
 
MoosilaukeJohnny
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03/29/2021 06:50AM  
Do keep in mind that in a canoe with a relatively flat bottom, while it may feel
more "stable" than one with a non-flat bottom, this stability can quickly fail
when such a canoe is tipped further than a certain point.

On the other hand, a canoe which features a "shallow V" hull
may feel a bit tippier initially, but will, upon being tipped a bit
further, have a much greater (safer) degree of stability than would a flat bottomed
boat.

In industry defined terms...we would say that the flat bottomed canoe would
have a very high degree of "primary" stability, but very low "secondary" stability,
while a boat with a shallow "V" bottom would have a slightly lower "primary"
stability, but much higher "secondary" stability.

Another important point...that even though a flat bottomed canoe kept upright in smooth water might be "primarily" stable, the same canoe kept "upright" in
wavy conditions is actually much less stable, as its relative angle to its water
environment is now variable.

Me? I'd go for the "shallow V," anytime!

Edit: By the way...what is this "canoe stability" thread doing in the Covid forum?
 
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