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billconner
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04/26/2021 08:14AM  
I was impressed at this thought.

Vaccination at Dollar General
 
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Canoearoo
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04/26/2021 10:34AM  
or open up more Walgreens (they all don't offer it), or more doctors offices (they also don't all offer it).
 
outsidethebox
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04/26/2021 02:41PM  
Much of this is about commitment, attitude and character. Our small-town pharmacy in Hesston, Kansas, population 3800, has administered over 6,000 vaccinations-leading the entire state.
 
billconner
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04/26/2021 07:31PM  
And much is about income, transportation, availability of health care, and education. Many communities do not have a national pharmacy like Walgreens near them, but they do have a dollar store. Just over 9000 Walgreens and over 16,000 Dollar Generals, and more in areas of low income and further from other retail. I want vaccine available to as many people as possible as soon as possible.
 
andym
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04/26/2021 10:15PM  
Agree, it is a good idea to offer them as many places as possible. It helps to make it easy for people, especially because not everyone has the flexibility to take time off work or the ability to drive where they can find an appointment.
 
jhb8426
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04/26/2021 11:27PM  
andym: "...it is a good idea to offer them as many places as possible..."

But they have to be qualified as well as equipped to handle the work. A local grocery/pharmacy chain that operates out of Iowa offered covid vaccination in our area and were totally unprepared. They routinely offer flue shots that probably average 4-5 a day and assumed the same infrastructure would work for covid. We got there on the assigned day and there were no signs or any other direction. You got in line at the pharmacy window with people there for prescriptions or whatever else was on their mind. The floor was marked off with the std. 6 ft. social distance markers. So people coming in seeing people standing back and not knowing any better just walked right up to the window ahead of everyone in line. It took over 2 hours for my wife to get the shot. This compares to less than 20 minutes in and out for me at a local hospital that went so far as to have signs in the driveway directing people for vaccination with people inside directing you along the way.
 
billconner
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04/27/2021 06:43AM  
But there are only 128 hospitals in Mississippi and over 500 Dollar Generals. In Alabama, 113 hospitals and over 800 Dollar Generals.
It seems that in addition the hospitals are concentrated in urban areas, where as Dollar Generals are in underserved rural areas. Its wonderful that so many of us here have great options to be vaccinated.
 
andym
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04/27/2021 05:13PM  
Absolutely important to do it well. In the federal govt. we’ve been asked for trained volunteers to help with vaccinations. I know my agency has some veterinarians that have been giving shots. But it’s not like we could staff up the dollar generals. For logistics, I was vaccinated at a large site where the National Guard did everything but give the shots. It was great. Sorry that others ran into long lines.
 
Canoearoo
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04/28/2021 09:50PM  
Maybe they should offer shots at all the state parks. It can help make up for the hard feeling of the price hikes.
 
casualbriday
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05/01/2021 08:15AM  
The DG where I live doesn't even have space to maintain social distancing while shopping. The staff there are also by far the worst at distancing and wearing masks correctly (lots of chin diapering going on). If used as a vaccination site, something would have to be set up in the parking lot.
 
billconner
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05/01/2021 06:45PM  
Considering the modifications so many businesses have made, this would seem trivial to accomplish. I'd think a van that could hit 5 or maybe 10 if half days a week would be pretty easy to set up. If you want to make vaccine available to everyone where the DG is only store and community place gor 50 miles, where else? I've never been in a follar store but I know its the only store available in some rural community.
 
Canoearoo
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05/01/2021 07:53PM  
Would such a pop up clinic be able to handle someone having an allergic reaction?
 
andym
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05/01/2021 08:39PM  
I wondered that too. It would probably be possible to make them as prepared as a pharmacy. The shots still need to be given by someone with some training and it doesn’t take much to teach someone to use an epipen.


 
billconner
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05/02/2021 06:31AM  
Is the risk of a reaction worse than the risks of not vaccinating?
 
missmolly
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05/02/2021 07:22AM  
andym: "I wondered that too. It would probably be possible to make them as prepared as a pharmacy. The shots still need to be given by someone with some training and it doesn’t take much to teach someone to use an epipen.



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There's an epipen in my house and the doc who prescribed it didn't feel we needed any special training to use it. Plus, there are illustrations on its container.
 
missmolly
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05/02/2021 07:23AM  
billconner: "Is the risk of a reaction worse than the risks of not vaccinating? "

If you were to pose this question to someone in India, their answer would be, "Heck, no!"
 
Canoearoo
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05/02/2021 12:13PM  
billconner: "Is the risk of a reaction worse than the risks of not vaccinating? "

I think it depends on the person and the allergies. They best answer is to ask your doctor. But you can get a vaccine in a hospital (eventually.. right now not all small town hospitals are offing it) so if you have a severe reaction and need to get an IV it will be right there.
 
andym
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05/02/2021 02:17PM  
Yes, the epipens are very simple. When I was prescribed an epipen, I think the nurse practitioner discussed it with us for a few minutes. When I did a first aid course at work in 2019, they had practice epipens (no needles or drug) and we did them on ourselves to see how much force it takes. I would do that for someone responsible for giving shots. Although, if they are giving shots you could also just give them a vial of epiphedrine and tell them to inject it into the thigh.

If you’ve had anaphylactic reactions then you probably should be injected in a medical setting. I’ve had some drug reactions and went over them with my doctor. They were fine with me getting the vaccine and didn’t limit where I got it. My chart says one of the reactions was anaphylactic but I don’t think my doctors believe that was true. I think they are right about that.
 
05/02/2021 05:55PM  
andym:
If you’ve had anaphylactic reactions then you probably should be injected in a medical setting. I’ve had some drug reactions and went over them with my doctor. They were fine with me getting the vaccine and didn’t limit where I got it. My chart says one of the reactions was anaphylactic but I don’t think my doctors believe that was true. I think they are right about that. "


A co-worker of mine was working a fire in the sticks when she was stung by a Bee, Hornet or Wasp. She was anaphylactic and her epi pen did not clear it up. My co-worker called into dispatch and a contractor life flight helicopter was launched. It got there in time to save her and lift her out of the fire area.

I asked what she was thinking as she was getting ready for transport on the helicopter, her reply.

"I couldn't think of anything else than what I was reading on the paramedics hat, as he stuck me with another epi-pen.
The hat said, the louder you scream the faster we come."

I kid you not, this was 10 years ago. Bet they do not wear hats like that anymore.
 
billconner
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05/02/2021 06:22PM  
Canoearoo: "billconner: "Is the risk of a reaction worse than the risks of not vaccinating? "


I think it depends on the person and the allergies. They best answer is to ask your doctor. But you can get a vaccine in a hospital (eventually.. right now not all small town hospitals are offing it) so if you have a severe reaction and need to get an IV it will be right there."


You and I can, and most people here can, but there are a significant number who do not have that option. They do not have the resources to travel 50+ miles, 100 miles round trip, perhaps twice.
 
andym
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05/03/2021 02:17PM  
Epipen not working is definitely scary. For my worst drug reactions, the countering drugs were given by IV. For one drug I’ve had infused, for my first dose they positioned a crash cart at the foot of my bed. I tried to pretend that was just a convenient place to store it. I had some pretty rough reactions but got through it with IV steroids and narcotics. The crash cart wasn’t needed.

For people who can’t travel far, the J&J vaccine hasn’t caused anaphylactic reactions. At least that was true a month ago when I got it.
 
Canoearoo
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05/03/2021 02:39PM  
My daughters friend is so allergic to bees that an eppi pen will only give her 10 minutes. She has to get to the hospital and get an iv in that time. I just think of these severe reactions at a Walgreens (or a dollar store) and think those people should be in a hospital for a vaccine. But small town hospitals aren't offering them yet.
 
Canoearoo
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05/03/2021 02:42PM  
Also make sure your thumb is never over the top of an epipens. When I was a full time teacher a student had a reaction to someone who had peanuts at home then didn't wash their hands. The teacher panicked and had her thumb over the top but didn't know she had it upside down. She injected it into her thumb. Both the student and the teacher went to the ER that day.
 
yellowcanoe
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05/03/2021 06:02PM  
Canoearoo: "Also make sure your thumb is never over the top of an epipens. When I was a full time teacher a student had a reaction to someone who had peanuts at home then didn't wash their hands. The teacher panicked and had her thumb over the top but didn't know she had it upside down. She injected it into her thumb. Both the student and the teacher went to the ER that day."

LOL!! When I was a paramedic we responded to a 911 call for a person who had injected her thumb. She said she had just been "testing it". Her thumb was such a nice shade of navy!
 
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