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05/15/2021 09:07AM  
Governor Walz lifted mask restrictions in MN. 50% of the population is fully vaccinated, over 60% are partially vaccinated. Made the choice due to new data from CDC that those vaccinated are unlikely to spread the virus, our April surge in ICU cases dropped sharply, reduced hospitalizations, reduced number of serious cases.

If you visit the area private businesses can still require masks for entry...I’ve seen the whole variance in requirements. COSTCO has no requirements, Total wine follows CDC’s recommendations and only requires the unvaccinated to be masked (honor system)
I am guessing these requirements will ever change so be prepared. After being masked since July 2020...it feels weird.

If you visit an health care facility there are no changes in masking rules for now, since there could be vulnerable patients that may not be able to be vaccinated that could be exposed to other unvaccinated visitors/patients. As a side note...from personal experience you wouldn’t believe how many people lie to health care providers about being vaccinated, having symptoms or if they are currently awaiting the results of a COVID test. With that I expect masking guidelines to stay in affect for quite a while in health facilities in MN.

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Bearpath9
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05/15/2021 12:33PM  
We are probably going to keep wearing our masks for a while yet. Given all the idiocy that has been demonstrated over Covid, we really don't trust that a lot of the people we will encounter are vaxed. Maybe that is paranoid, but it is the way we feel. As a side comment, I don't know anyone who got the flu this year, and only one person I know had a cold. Might just wear the damn thing through the winter months again.
 
jhb8426
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05/15/2021 12:44PM  
Bearpath9: "...Given all the idiocy that has been demonstrated over Covid, we really don't trust that a lot of the people we will encounter are vaxed. Maybe that is paranoid..."

No, it's not.
 
missmolly
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05/15/2021 04:46PM  
jhb8426: "Bearpath9: "...Given all the idiocy that has been demonstrated over Covid, we really don't trust that a lot of the people we will encounter are vaxed. Maybe that is paranoid..."


No, it's not."


Agreed.
 
05/15/2021 05:07PM  
Not paranoid...being prudent/careful. I am very hopeful the worst days are behind us...but we don’t know yet. I think the next 2 months will tell a lot.

T
 
LarryS48
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05/15/2021 11:51PM  
I too am going to keep wearing a mask in public places for a while. It really isn't that much of an inconvenience for me. I'd like to be sure that the B1.617. 2 (Indian) variant doesn't escape the vaccines. Early evidence suggests that the vaccines are still effective in preventing serious disease and death but has decreased efficacy against asymptomatic and mild disease from the B1.617.2 variant. The last thing we need is another wave or development of a variant that really escapes the vaccines. I'll keep watching the numbers of cases and deaths. If after a month of no mask mandates and cases are continuing to decline, I'll reevaluate. The U.S. seven-day average is over 33,000 cases a day and over 600 deaths a day now. If after a month of no mask mandates and no new dangerous variants and those numbers are a third of what they are now, I'll start feeling more confident. The relatively minor inconvenience of wearing a mask is a small price to pay for a chance of getting rid of this pandemic.
 
doorbluff84
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05/16/2021 05:11AM  
I’m going to continue wearing mine as well. Besides, the new habit has been made.
 
yellowcanoe
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05/16/2021 07:25AM  
Bearpath9: "We are probably going to keep wearing our masks for a while yet. Given all the idiocy that has been demonstrated over Covid, we really don't trust that a lot of the people we will encounter are vaxed. Maybe that is paranoid, but it is the way we feel. As a side comment, I don't know anyone who got the flu this year, and only one person I know had a cold. Might just wear the damn thing through the winter months again."

Please,. Not the same mask. Mine needs to be deep sixed. Though washed regularly its a snot rag. Yes its great not to get sick! And in the winter it is a breath warmer at below zero.

Not paranoid but masks do have their uses.. Anyone know of a canoe themey one?
 
straighthairedcurly
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05/16/2021 10:44AM  
Being that I am a teacher, and being that this year was the first school year (it was 100% in person) that I did not have even so much as a sniffle, I will continue to wear my mask in crowded public places and at school whenever I have a sniffle/sneezy/coughing child in my classroom. I have come to love my masks!
 
Bearpath9
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05/16/2021 12:07PM  



Please,. Not the same mask. Mine needs to be deep sixed. Though washed regularly its a snot rag. Yes its great not to get sick! And in the winter it is a breath warmer at below zero.


Not paranoid but masks do have their uses.. Anyone know of a canoe themey one?"

No, man, not the same mask. I change it out and use a new one every week or two.
 
05/16/2021 01:27PM  
Although there is an occasional breakthrough case of Covid, the main reason the CDC relaxed the rules is because the vaccines have been much more effective than anticipated. So, if you are fully vaccinated it is basically only the unvaccinated who are at risk. If I had anyone at home who would be at risk, I would continue to wear my mask everywhere indoors, but I don't, so I wear it where I need to, but don't wear it in places that allow me to go into unmasked. It does feel weird, however.
 
yellowcanoe
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05/16/2021 02:44PM  
We can think " let them ( unvaccinated) hang themselves" but a population of mothers and fathers who have kids under 12 have genuine concerns about taking kids into areas where unvaccinated maskless people are.

Campsites in the BWCA of course would not be one of those areas.
 
schweady
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05/16/2021 05:49PM  
Got my first side-eye today from other customers for wearing my usual mask into a local coffee shop for takeout and enjoying on their deck mask-free on this marvelous Sunday afternoon. My thought was: the kids working there are all HS aged, and obviously not yet fully vaccinated. What's it take to be thoughtful about their health for another couple of months?
 
andym
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05/16/2021 08:32PM  
Great, side-eye for wearing a mask... this is gonna be such fun for those of us who are immunocompromised and will need to stay masked because the vaccine doesn’t work for us. Just got blood tests results this week that showed that the antibodies I produced are ineffective. Sigh.
 
uqme2
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05/17/2021 03:16PM  
Sorry to hear about your antibodies. I started getting an ammuniosurpressive infusion every few weeks a while back. Last time, I asked the nurse about it v Covid vaccination timing and infusion timing knowing he didn't have a clue either.

We both politely laughed as he hooked me up. Hence my question.

Is that antibody test a "free" test?
 
missmolly
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05/17/2021 07:05PM  
andym: "Great, side-eye for wearing a mask... this is gonna be such fun for those of us who are immunocompromised and will need to stay masked because the vaccine doesn’t work for us. Just got blood tests results this week that showed that the antibodies I produced are ineffective. Sigh."

Oh, Andy, I'm thinking the best of thoughts for you. Andy, that side-eye came from ignorance. I used to read to a blind woman and on warm days, I'd take her for a walk. Her eyes weren't pretty and because they didn't work, people felt free to gawk at her. I returned their gawking with my Teacher Death Glare (TM). I wish I could use the TDG on all who give side-eye for mask wearing.
 
andym
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05/17/2021 10:26PM  
Oh, the TDG sounds useful and thank you both for the kind thoughts. It sorta sucks when everyone else is getting more freedom. But the bone marrow transplant that resulted in me being immune suppressed is also the reason I'm alive. So, I'm still thankful.

I've been contacting all of my doctors and the sense I get is that they are just now learning a lot about immunosuppression and the COVID vaccines. In a few more months we may know a lot more. As for the test, basic antibody tests are pretty widespread and probably easy to get covered by insurance. The antibody activity test I had is one developed and run by the research medical center where I had and they have a special FDA license to do things like that. I don't know if that sort of test is available many places.

I think it is still worth getting vaccinated when on immunosuppressive drugs. At least lymphoma patients are getting told to give it a try.
 
yellowcanoe
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05/18/2021 07:42AM  
andym: "Great, side-eye for wearing a mask... this is gonna be such fun for those of us who are immunocompromised and will need to stay masked because the vaccine doesn’t work for us. Just got blood tests results this week that showed that the antibodies I produced are ineffective. Sigh."

TDG and a pair of aviator sunglasses! Behind the mask you have the freedom to sneer too!
Would a higher dose of vaccine work for you? I have not a clue about all of this.
 
Minnesotian
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05/18/2021 08:28AM  

Like Larry mentioned above, I will probably keep wearing mine for another month and then after that decide. I have learned that every time the rules were relaxed anywhere in the country, cases shot up not to long afterward. The only difference being this time there is so many vaccinated people. So, cautiously optimistic is my stance.
 
andym
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05/18/2021 02:01PM  
I don't have aviators but do have the rather cool Oakleys in my profile picture. Might be more cool than threatening, though.

A higher dose is a good question. So far the advice from the American Society of Hematology is not to try that but a lot is unknown. But the fact that they discussed it shows that it is a good question. Their advice for immunocompromised patients is here.
 
05/20/2021 02:07PM  
OMG---I knew the info from the CDC and Walz would make work tougher...but a lot of PEOPLE just plain SUCK right now.

The masking and social distance requirements DID NOT change for Health Facilities...for good reasons. We still need to protect people vulnerable to COVID. When they come in to our clinics their health is our responsibility and we are not going to compromise them because you are a baby about masks...so stop swearing and yelling like a spoiled entitled children...try to be a decent human being and think of others for once.

rant off!

T
 
yellowcanoe
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05/20/2021 04:03PM  
timatkn: "OMG---I knew the info from the CDC and Walz would make work tougher...but a lot of PEOPLE just plain SUCK right now.


The masking and social distance requirements DID NOT change for Health Facilities...for good reasons. We still need to protect people vulnerable to COVID. When they come in to our clinics their health is our responsibility and we are not going to compromise them because you are a baby about masks...so stop swearing and yelling like a spoiled entitled children...try to be a decent human being and think of others for once.


rant off!


T "


It was a good one! People forget that in flu season you would also be required to wear a mask in healthcare settings. But seems a flea has more memory....
 
GopherAdventure
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05/20/2021 07:24PM  
awbrown: "Although there is an occasional breakthrough case of Covid, the main reason the CDC relaxed the rules is because the vaccines have been much more effective than anticipated. So, if you are fully vaccinated it is basically only the unvaccinated who are at risk. If I had anyone at home who would be at risk, I would continue to wear my mask everywhere indoors, but I don't, so I wear it where I need to, but don't wear it in places that allow me to go into unmasked. It does feel weird, however."

Both my wife and I are fully vaccinated, but we have 3 kids (oldest is 10) that obviously aren’t vaccinated yet. My 10 year old asked why I’m still wearing my mask at indoor venues and I told him 2 reasons: 1. It’s not an inconvenience for me and I’m still being cautious, and 2. I’m masking in solidarity with my kids until they are fully vaccinated. And, it’s looking like they might approve the vaccines for 2 years and up by the fall, so that would be awesome. I ate out at a bar/restaurant with my dad a few weeks back and that remains the only time I have dined out in the last 13 months. We’ve done lots of carry out, but no in person dining. You know what I miss most...Perkins Pancakes! Lol.

Tony
 
thegildedgopher
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05/24/2021 03:46PM  
Nobody is wearing masks up on the iron range, I'll tell ya that much. It was a bit of culture shock to be honest. Down here in St. Paul when I go out I still see about 50% wearing them when it's optional. Not in Ely. It didn't bother me, really -- they are following Walz's rules -- just surprised it was so different from home.

I have never been so healthy as I have been in the last year. Not a single cold or respiratory illness in my household of 4 including 2 kids who were in-person at school 90% of the year. So I won't be getting rid of mine anytime soon.
 
nofish
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05/25/2021 08:19AM  
GopherAdventure: "awbrown: "Although there is an occasional breakthrough case of Covid, the main reason the CDC relaxed the rules is because the vaccines have been much more effective than anticipated. So, if you are fully vaccinated it is basically only the unvaccinated who are at risk. If I had anyone at home who would be at risk, I would continue to wear my mask everywhere indoors, but I don't, so I wear it where I need to, but don't wear it in places that allow me to go into unmasked. It does feel weird, however."


Both my wife and I are fully vaccinated, but we have 3 kids (oldest is 10) that obviously aren’t vaccinated yet. My 10 year old asked why I’m still wearing my mask at indoor venues and I told him 2 reasons: 1. It’s not an inconvenience for me and I’m still being cautious, and 2. I’m masking in solidarity with my kids until they are fully vaccinated. And, it’s looking like they might approve the vaccines for 2 years and up by the fall, so that would be awesome. I ate out at a bar/restaurant with my dad a few weeks back and that remains the only time I have dined out in the last 13 months. We’ve done lots of carry out, but no in person dining. You know what I miss most...Perkins Pancakes! Lol.


Tony"


My wife and I are doing the same with our kids (5 and 8 years old). The 2 of us are vaccinated but until the kids can be we'll wear our masks when we are out with them. Our kids are great with the masks but it's always good to model the behavior you want to see in your children so we'll wear the masks until they can be vaccinated.

We are also starting to debate how to handle seeing unvaccinated family once they return to work. My sister and brother in law have been working from home and seeing almost no one so we've felt ok seeing them occasionally. However both will be going back to the office June 1 and both refuse to get vaccinated. They will also be working in companies that won't require masks. With all that in mind were planning on telling them they can't see our unvaccinated children until either they get vaccinated or our kids are able to be vaccinated.
 
jillpine
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05/25/2021 10:31AM  
Will you ever shake hands again?
:)
 
mutz
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05/28/2021 09:28AM  
jillpine: "Will you ever shake hands again?
:)"



In the Dr’s office for annual physical yesterday. My Dr walked in, shook hands, said we are both fully vaccinated don’t need these masks anymore.
So answer to your question, yes I do and will continue to shake hands
 
andym
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05/28/2021 05:03PM  
I once declined shaking hands with my doctor because I had a cold. He said he wasn't worried because he had one of these... and pointed to the sink. As an immunocompromised person I've been avoiding shaking hands for a long time and carry hand sanitizer for when I wind up touching people.
 
05/29/2021 10:12PM  
thegildedgopher: "Nobody is wearing masks up on the iron range, I'll tell ya that much. It was a bit of culture shock to be honest. Down here in St. Paul when I go out I still see about 50% wearing them when it's optional. Not in Ely. It didn't bother me, really -- they are following Walz's rules -- just surprised it was so different from home.


I have never been so healthy as I have been in the last year. Not a single cold or respiratory illness in my household of 4 including 2 kids who were in-person at school 90% of the year. So I won't be getting rid of mine anytime soon."





That is the norm this year: No flu or colds almost anywhere because of masks etc. They work.
 
05/30/2021 03:12PM  
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06/16/2021 01:23PM  
It's been nice
 
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