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airmorse
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07/24/2022 10:03AM  
During my June trip this year it rained quite a bit. The seams failed on my rain gear while out paddling. So now I'm looking for new rain gear b4 my mid September trip.

Must be.

Light weight
Last reasonably long
Not leak

I'm not a fan of Frogg Toggs.
 
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MReid
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07/24/2022 10:52AM  
Some reading material: Rain gear
 
cyclones30
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07/24/2022 11:04AM  
I like my Marmot precip stuff the last few years. They were on sale on Prime day a few weeks ago
 
AdamXChicago
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07/24/2022 06:35PM  
If it’s within your budget, Arc’ teryx has some very durable gear. Very happy with mine over the years.

AdamX
 
07/24/2022 06:47PM  
I have a Marmot Minimalist jacket which I've found to be pretty rainproof; it soaks through if you are out in a *downpour* for more than 2-3 hours or so (~6 hours if just in light rain), but I only did that once on a backpacking trip where we hiked for 7 hours in the rain. Nothing's going to keep you perfectly dry for that long. I also use this jacket as a windbreaker or outer layer in the fall, over something like wool, and it keeps you quite warm. The armpit zips are nice, and I've had them open since the day I got the jacket. I'd buy it again if it got damaged but it's held up great over the 6 years I've had it!

I also have Marmot PreCip pants and I find them a bit tight for their size (sizing up as I wear over regular pants), but I think they've worked well enough for me when I truly needed rain pants (i.e. all day paddling/portaging in the rain). They don't feel quite as rainproof as the Minimalist fabric. I got these on sale but might have chosen something else in that price bracket if I found anything else I liked.
 
Nomadmusky
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07/24/2022 09:33PM  
I'm a huge Frogg Toggs fan.

Most people don't know that they make about 10 different models and most people just buy the cheap ones.

My canoe and Fishing trips for the last couple of decades have been done nice and dry in various Frogg Toggs rain suits.

Nomad.
 
StLouisPaddler
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07/24/2022 10:27PM  
+1 on Arcteryx. The Beta AR jacket is pretty well bombproof. It isn’t the lightest option though. The Beta LT is lighter and has the “storm hood” that is arguably better. I have not had good luck with the Marmot Precip jacket. The pants are fine but the jacket wicks moisture right through in even light rain.
 
HowardSprague
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07/25/2022 08:04AM  
The LL Bean Stowaway stuff is pretty nice and light; after several (5-6) years it doesn't bead off like it used to and you might give it treatments. My latest is the stuff from Duluth Trading. A bit less light but pretty nice raingear.
Kesselring's presentation at Canoecopia was interesting, as he mentioned using a GoreTex rain jacket for everyday/windbreaker use might wear off the coating and hence its longevity. I think that's what happened with my LL Bean Stowaway goretex.
 
schweady
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07/25/2022 11:15AM  
Nomadmusky: "I'm a huge Frogg Toggs fan.


Most people don't know that they make about 10 different models and most people just buy the cheap ones.


My canoe and Fishing trips for the last couple of decades have been done nice and dry in various Frogg Toggs rain suits.


Nomad."

Agreed. The next step up makes a huge difference. I just posted my thoughts more completely in the similar thread just started by Bjmd28.
 
Blackdogyak
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07/29/2022 01:59PM  
I did a LOT of research this spring.
Arc'teryx is WAY to expensive... eliminated.
Came down to:
Marmot Precip
Patagonia TorrentShell

I went with Torrent Shell.
Super nice. Tested in shower and moderate rain. Have not been in full deluge yet.
 
07/29/2022 10:26PM  
I upgraded to a gortex rain jacket from outdoor research and it is worlds better than my marmot precip! Great hood, never felt clammy or hot or that awful "I'm dry but my jacket feels wet" thing that my old H2No precip jacket did. Can't recommend it highly enough.
 
straighthairedcurly
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07/31/2022 02:39PM  
Enlightened Equipment Visp is the best jacket I have ever owned. Rained for 2 whole days on this last trip. It kept me dry and was lightweight and easy to move around in. It doesn't get all slimy feeling from sweat when you portage.

Some info videos: EE Visp vs. Zpack Vertice

Pros: keeps you really, really dry...velcro sleeve closures resulted in no leakage around the wrists even when paddling...does not wet out...breaths incredibly well so any sweat from portaging dissipates very quickly...incredibly light and packs really small

Cons: no pockets
 
rick00001967
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07/31/2022 03:02PM  
i bought an "apollo stretch rain jacket" direct from outdoor research. i love it. really light. good features. fits well. i have not really put it to use in rugged conditions but i am hoping it will last.
i also got OR furio gortex pants. they are not a light so may not be a good option for you.
 
airmorse
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07/31/2022 05:28PM  
Thanks everyone for the responses so far. Lots of good opinions here and info.
 
MDVancleave
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08/02/2022 07:53PM  
I read a Cliff Jacobson article earlier this year describing a piece of rain gear I hadn't heard of before: the Cagoule

It's essentially a cross between a rain jacket and a poncho–with conventional sleeves and hood but extra length and simple construction. It's missing many of the pockets and "features" of high-end jackets but it's light, cheap and effective. I got mine from Sierra Designs for about $40. When not in-use it packs into its own pouch pocket that also hold my rain pants.

You're not going to win any style points wearing around town but it'll certainly keep you dry in the woods or on the water.
 
YetiJedi
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08/02/2022 10:13PM  
MDVancleave: "I read a Cliff Jacobson article earlier this year describing a piece of rain gear I hadn't heard of before: the Cagoule


It's essentially a cross between a rain jacket and a poncho–with conventional sleeves and hood but extra length and simple construction. It's missing many of the pockets and "features" of high-end jackets but it's light, cheap and effective. I got mine from Sierra Designs for about $40. When not in-use it packs into its own pouch pocket that also hold my rain pants.


You're not going to win any style points wearing around town but it'll certainly keep you dry in the woods or on the water. "


Interesting find, MD. Do you like it? Aside from style, any other limitations? Seems like it might not breathe very well. Does it allow for a good range of motion ie paddling and portaging or is it more suited to sitting out a storm? Hopefully these questions are in the spirit of this thread...
 
MDVancleave
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08/03/2022 10:01AM  
The loose fit seems to make up for the lack of pit-zips. No mobility issues when I wore it on my last trip. I think in colder whether I might prefer a traditional rain jacket that doubles as a wind layer but for pulling on in summer storms this felt ideal.
 
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