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adam
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12/23/2022 07:58AM  
After permits become available at the end of January, if you book a permit and have to cancel it, let others know in this thread that this is happening so they can potentially get the permit they really wanted.
 
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01/25/2023 11:23AM  
Anyone know if the cancelled permits are released into the pool immediately or if they are released at a later or randomized time? I thought there was some discussion last year that USFS was either using or contemplating using a randomized, later release time to forestall some kind of collusion.
pitster
member (17)member
  
01/25/2023 11:36AM  
I'm pretty sure they are released back into the pool and it almost immediately goes back up onto the recreation.gov site as available. I had to cancel one last summer, and it made it back onto the Rec.gov site immediately and was grabbed by someone.
Mattbrome
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01/25/2023 02:51PM  
I tried to get a June 19 permit for EP 16 (Moose Portage/River (north)) and was shut out. Got the last one on June 20. Shortly after most of the permits were gone for EP 16. If anyone thinks they want to drop one for June 19 for EP 16 please let me know! I don't want to cut the trip short a day unless we have to!
TreeBear
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01/26/2023 10:36AM  
It doesn't seem consistent either from what I have observed. Now, there might be a difference between "I hit the return button" and the "time out." Once I accidently grabbed the permit without being logged in. But then the permit was gone when I logged in because it was sitting in the "guest" cart. My mistake. Should have been 15 minutes and then it would time out. That permit didn't resurface for almost 14 hours and I ultimately did get it back.
01/27/2023 08:27AM  
We had scheduling conflicts so were unable to schedule on the 25th. My kids and I are very interested in entry 16 or 23. I hope this thread helps us land were someone had to cancel. Thank you!
Joshuatree43
member (16)member
  
01/30/2023 07:44AM  
Just canceled a permit for Homer, May 27th, the Saturday of Memorial Weekend. Had wanted Baker and missed it, booked Homer in a panic. But I think we'll head up the Gunflint instead. Just canceled it now, Monday Jan 30th, 7:45 am.
DoorCountyJoe
  
02/05/2023 10:32AM  
Cancelling a Lake One permit for July 23;
a conflict with a wedding and a high school class reunion…
razinCO
  
02/21/2023 10:21AM  
We are canceling a Moose/Portage River North (OP) for 8/28.
adam
Moderator
  
03/03/2023 08:45AM  
I am sure it won't last long:

Permit Found Available for: 14 - Little Indian Sioux North (OP) - OvernightPaddle

Entry Date: 2023-08-03

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adam
Moderator
  
03/04/2023 07:34AM  

Mudro Permit for 7-7 available now.

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adam
Moderator
  
03/07/2023 07:37PM  

New permit alert feature in beta. Still working out a few kinks, but there are plenty of permits that were sold out that are coming available sporadically as they are canceled by groups.

More details at the bottom of the permit availability pages


03/08/2023 02:36PM  
That's a nice feature
03/08/2023 04:07PM  
I am canceling a permit for Hog Creek entry on Aug. 3.
peteb
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03/18/2023 06:22PM  
Just canceled Seagull Lake(#54)- overnight paddle, Sunday, May 28th.
HoriconMarshPaddler
member (11)member
  
04/02/2023 02:29AM  
Canceled a permit for Duncan on 6/17
04/07/2023 11:26AM  
I just canceled 2 permits for Sawbill for August 11
Twopaddle
Guest Paddler
  
04/12/2023 02:12PM  
Canceling a permit (at 2:20 pm) for Thursday, June 15th for entry at Lizz & Swamp.
adam
Moderator
  
04/13/2023 08:29AM  
Twopaddle: "Canceling a permit (at 2:20 pm) for Thursday, June 15th for entry at Lizz & Swamp."


This permit didn't show up until 7am this morning in the system. Interested to know if that is when you released it or if it took that long?
wannabeoutthere
distinguished member (285)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
04/13/2023 10:53AM  
Cancelling a permit for EP 23 Mudro for June 9th. We will be cancelling it the around April 20th.
04/14/2023 08:20PM  
Just now cancelled a permit for Brule on Saturday 8/19.
Twopaddle
Guest Paddler
  
04/16/2023 08:59AM  
I cancelled the June 15th permit for Lizz & Swamp on April 12th at 2:20 pm as I posted. I wanted to let others know exactly when it was cancelled. Interesting that it took until the next morning to show in the system. Wonder if that is the normal timing - overnight and available in the system at 7:00 the next day?
RAA
member (5)member
  
04/20/2023 08:03PM  
Cancelled #34 Island River on June 6
straighthairedcurly
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04/28/2023 09:48PM  
I cancelled my June 14th Hog Creek permit and it is showing now on the site. (I switched to one a few days later since I signed up for a canoe marathon in early June and thought I might need more recovery time :)
WanderingWoodsmanMN
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05/04/2023 04:51PM  
I have the 1 permit for Ram Lake this upcoming Thursday, May 11 (trout opener is that Saturday) and am considering cancelling. Let me know if someone is interested in it and we can coordinate
radlenp
  
05/08/2023 11:06AM  
Just canceled my permit for may 18th at LITTLE INDIAN SIOUX NORTH
05/08/2023 07:15PM  
I just cancelled a permit at East Bearskin for Sunday, June 11.
Crowriver
member (11)member
  
05/09/2023 07:32PM  
Cancelled 3 permits tonight May 9th. I knew I'd cancel one. But none work for me. Hoping someone can get them.

Fall Lake- overnight motor June 2

Moose River north June 13

LIS North June 21
dustytrail
distinguished member (194)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
05/10/2023 09:31AM  
Just cancelled a August 7 permit for EP 37
jlw034
member (44)member
  
05/10/2023 05:43PM  
May 25 on Sag should now have one open spot. Enjoy.
glastar54
  
05/11/2023 07:05AM  
Just canceled a permit for May 17th out of Sawbill
05/14/2023 07:51PM  
Canceled permit for missing link lake, may 16. Super bummed
Farmboy88
senior member (68)senior membersenior member
  
05/15/2023 07:30AM  
Permit cancelled for mudro may 29th
Saberboys
distinguished member(897)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
05/15/2023 09:49AM  
Permit for Lake One canceled for May 19, 2023. My tripping partner had to back out. Just canceled the permit today, 5/15.
Snorty
senior member (55)senior membersenior member
  
05/15/2023 05:27PM  
Cancelled Little Indian Sioux North for May 31.
CampingJon
member (14)member
  
05/16/2023 08:27AM  
Unfortunately Just Cancelled for Homer Lake Entry - May 19th.
AlexanderSupertramp
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05/17/2023 10:54AM  
Up for grabs, I just cancelled a Sawbill for May 25th about 1 minute ago. Weather is looking primo so I'm going in a couple days earlier now at another entry point.

Go get it!
05/17/2023 03:53PM  
Just cancelled a permit for EP 14 for August 18
adam
Moderator
  
05/18/2023 07:19AM  

A brief update that someone release a permit at 6:49AM CST yesterday morning for July 27th Sawbill. The permit alert showed up at just after 4 am CST this morning.

This permit almost took 24 hours to show back up in the system.
Pilgrimpaddler
distinguished member (263)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
05/18/2023 11:00AM  
Will be cancelling a permit for a May 20 Homer Lake entry in just a few minutes.
Drex
  
05/19/2023 01:55PM  
cancelled little vermillion ep 12 for 5/28/23
Upnorthcanoer
member (6)member
  
05/20/2023 08:58PM  
i just cancelled a permit for East Bearskin june 23rd
05/21/2023 08:33PM  
Just about to cancel a May 25th permit for Crab Lake
foxfireniner
distinguished member (204)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
05/22/2023 09:13AM  
Cancelling August 12th EP #9 Little Indian Sioux at 9:15 5/22.
WHendrix
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05/23/2023 06:37PM  
I just caneclled a permit for EP 24, Fall Lake for June 5. I also cancelled a reservation for camp site # 26 at the Fall Lake Campground for June 4. That site is a prime tent only site right o the lake. You can spend your night before entry and then just leave from your campsite for your BW trip
jerryr
distinguished member (166)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
05/25/2023 10:28AM  
So sorry for the late cancellation.
Trip was still a go until later last night.
moose river south. just cancelled at 10:25 am
05/28/2023 05:44PM  
canceled ep50 cross bay for may31. wife became ill
06/01/2023 10:32AM  
Canceling a permit for August 20th for EP14 LIS.
06/01/2023 04:49PM  
Cancelled a 1 night stay for June 6 at Jeanette Lake campground.

Cancelled an overnight paddle permit for June 9 for Moose/Portage River North.

Cancelled an overnight paddle permit for July 11 for Little Indian Sioux North.
WanderingWoodsmanMN
distinguished member (131)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
06/01/2023 06:40PM  
Will likely be cancelling a permit for Baker Lake EP39 on September 21
Wonderlost
Guest Paddler
  
06/02/2023 06:14AM  
Just cancelled June 16 entry at Morgan lake. If you don’t mind a hike it’s a beautiful entry that gets you into some pretty secluded lakes quickly.
gcw
  
06/03/2023 07:58AM  
Just cancelled permit for Snowbank - EP28 - for July 9.
dlneeley
member (12)member
  
06/03/2023 09:21PM  
Tonight I canceled our June 29th Permit, Mudro with camping on Horse Lake .
Hope it shows up on the board soon as it is a great entry point.
Explained in another post, Grandkids flying in from WA, but have to be fly back on July 2nd.
06/04/2023 07:43AM  
dlneeley: "Tonight I canceled our June 29th Permit, Mudro with camping on Horse Lake .
Hope it shows up on the board soon as it is a great entry point.
Explained in another post, Grandkids flying in from WA, but have to be fly back on July 2nd. "


Is this entry 23 or 24?
06/04/2023 07:43AM  
dlneeley: "Tonight I canceled our June 29th Permit, Mudro with camping on Horse Lake .
Hope it shows up on the board soon as it is a great entry point.
Explained in another post, Grandkids flying in from WA, but have to be fly back on July 2nd. "


Is this entry 23 or 24?
dlneeley
member (12)member
  
06/04/2023 07:51AM  
This is Entry # 23, allows camping on Horse Lake, Fall Lake is # 24. And #22 is Mudro Restricted, no camping on Horse Lake
Bobaaa
member (40)member
  
06/04/2023 10:49AM  
I will be cancelling a permit for #64 East Bearskin for June 18th a little later today.
Walleye6
distinguished member (168)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
06/04/2023 09:03PM  
Just cancelled a permit for Wed June 7th for EP#16 Moose River North
iCallitMaize
distinguished member (203)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
06/04/2023 09:35PM  
I may need to cancel Stuart River (#19) for June 28th. Potential work schedule adjustment. I will hold on for a few more days hoping I don’t need to push back a week or so but it’s looking like I can’t get loose until the 30th. Email me if you’re interested and we will coordinate the cancel time so you can grab it.

Mike
iCallitMaize
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06/07/2023 06:04PM  
iCallitMaize: "I may need to cancel Stuart River (#19) for June 28th. Potential work schedule adjustment. I will hold on for a few more days hoping I don’t need to push back a week or so but it’s looking like I can’t get loose until the 30th. Email me if you’re interested and we will coordinate the cancel time so you can grab it.

Mike "


Just canceled Stuart River (#19) for June 28th.
thefourofus
distinguished member (188)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
06/12/2023 12:11PM  
Unfortunately, I have to cancel my solo trip this year. At 4PM Central time today, I will be canceling a Mudro (23) permit for entry on 6/24/2023.
Wayouttroy
distinguished member (150)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
06/13/2023 05:00PM  
Cancelled EP14 for 6-20-23
airmorse
distinguished member(3420)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
06/14/2023 03:10PM  
Canceled Morgan Lake entry for this Sunday the 18th.
gcw
  
06/18/2023 05:29AM  
Just cancelled OP permit for Stuart River for Jul 9, 2023.
06/18/2023 03:10PM  
Just cancelled a July 1 entry at Little Gabbro. Go get it!
Loony_canoe
distinguished member (421)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
06/18/2023 09:55PM  
Just Canceled Permit for Mudro Entry for June 20th.
jayapples
  
06/19/2023 06:43AM  
Just canceled a permit for Little Indian Sioux North for July 9th.
DH
Guest Paddler
  
06/20/2023 01:48PM  
Just cancelled lake 1 for July 1, enjoy the 4th!
AlexanderSupertramp
distinguished member (348)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
06/21/2023 10:50AM  
DH: "Just cancelled lake 1 for July 1, enjoy the 4th!"


Scooped it up! Now I just have to get out of work on Monday so I can make it a multi-night trip and not just one.
Jefflynn06
member (26)member
  
06/21/2023 12:34PM  
Just cancelled a permit for Baker Lake on June 25th.
06/21/2023 08:39PM  
Canceling an overnight Motor permit for Saganaga Lake for June 26 (Monday). I hope that somebody can use it.
MichiganRory
member (5)member
  
06/23/2023 08:43AM  
Just cancelled a permit starting at Brule on August 7th.

Pee Wee football practices start earlier than I anticipated when I booked the trip.
Crashdavis
member (31)member
  
06/25/2023 09:17AM  
I just canceled my entry at Sawbill July 3. Got sick, see you all next year.
estrobel
  
06/28/2023 03:20PM  
My outfitter told me that once a trip permit is cancelled, it does not go back into the rotation for a few days. This is to prevent a traveler from cancelling the permit and allowing a buddy to pick it up right away. It apparently makes it more fair for everyone.
adam
Moderator
  
06/28/2023 05:23PM  

Sampling the cancellation and when they show back up in the permit alerts emails, I would say it is around 12 or so hours.
TuscaroraBorealis
distinguished member(5665)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished memberpower member
  
06/28/2023 08:52PM  
I will be cancelling a Mudro unrestricted permit for August 21st in a few minutes.
07/04/2023 12:16PM  
Cancelled Brule August 13
kpmc
member (6)member
  
07/06/2023 12:20PM  
Cancelling a July 13th Fall Lake permit this afternoon.
Clunker
  
07/07/2023 08:22PM  
I will be canceling an August 5 Cross Bay Lake permit around 9AM central time this Sunday (July 9).
HoriconMarshPaddler
member (11)member
  
07/16/2023 09:43AM  
Snagged a last minute mudro ep. So I canceled my cross bay lake one for 7/25.
07/16/2023 10:17AM  
I will shortly (7/16, 10:20 AM CT) be canceling an August 29th entry permit for Sawbill.
jwise82
member (11)member
  
07/17/2023 06:32PM  
Canceling an Aug 8 permit for EP 30 later this evening.
Atrain
distinguished member (130)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
07/20/2023 10:47AM  
At noon EST today I am cancelling:
Aug 5th Kawishiwi
Aug 12th LIS North
Aug 19th Mudro

I hope some of you can enjoy these, I am very sad to let these go, but Cest' la Vie.
pmora
member (7)member
  
07/23/2023 08:01PM  
Just canceled Mudro July 26th
vallybird
  
07/24/2023 09:30AM  
Just canceled Sawbill Lake for Saturday, August 5.
DJSteve
  
07/24/2023 08:56PM  
Just cancelled a Crab/Cummings for Tuesday Aug 15
jtruts
member (8)member
  
07/25/2023 12:24PM  
Mudro 8/1 to 8/4 cancelled. g'luck
07/25/2023 02:10PM  
Just cancelled EP 62 permit for Sunday September 3rd. Enjoy!!
Diversefox
  
07/26/2023 10:14AM  
I would love to grab these. I am suspecting it goes back to the reservation deck and if I refresh it incessantly - I would be able to book it?
kjw
distinguished member (106)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
08/08/2023 06:48PM  
Going to cancel Baker Lake permit for August 27th. Will be doing it in next hour or so.
Trent Williams
Guest Paddler
  
08/09/2023 11:24PM  
Looking to see if anyone wants to trade permits for 3 on 29th of August out of Brant Lake for August 24th-26th entry instead? Would consider changing entry points too.
WanderingWoodsmanMN
distinguished member (131)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
08/14/2023 04:40PM  
Looking at cancelling Baker Lake EP for Sept 21, shoot me an email if interested and we can time it out or see if can transfer
08/15/2023 01:02PM  
Mudro Lake EP for September 13 will be available at 4 PM EST Tuesday August 15
MrFeesh
member (39)member
  
08/17/2023 02:25PM  
Unfortunately for medical reasons we will not be headed north tomorrow and our Hog Creek permit for this Saturday the 19th will be cancelled, Hope someone can put it to good use.
08/21/2023 12:07PM  
cancel ep 47 for sept 5 lizz-swamp
JimmyJustice
distinguished member(736)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
08/22/2023 08:09AM  
Will be canceling my permit for Little Vermilion (EP 12) for 9/2, today.
desertcanoe
distinguished member (107)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
08/23/2023 12:20PM  
Will be cancelling a Slim Lake permit for Saturday Sept 2 this afternoon.
WanderingWoodsmanMN
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08/24/2023 02:38PM  
desertcanoe: "Will be cancelling a Slim Lake permit for Saturday Sept 2 this afternoon."


Just picked this up, thanks!
Saberboys
distinguished member(897)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
08/27/2023 09:09PM  
Cancelled a permit for EP-30/Lake One on 9/19/23
WanderingWoodsmanMN
distinguished member (131)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
08/29/2023 04:52PM  
Will be cancelling a permit for Wood Lake entering Friday, Sept 1
Hockhocking
senior member (93)senior membersenior member
  
09/04/2023 10:00AM  
Just cancelled a permit for EP Brule Lake for Wednesday 9/6/23. Hope somebody can use it! I simply wasn't planning on buying a new house as quickly as it all went through, and I am swamped with moving and all.
rlstoner2004
member (10)member
  
09/05/2023 09:41AM  
Looking for Sawbill 9/14 to exchange for my sawbill 9/15. Let me know if canceling or looking to swap!
airmorse
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09/05/2023 06:20PM  
rlstoner2004: "Looking for Sawbill 9/14 to exchange for my sawbill 9/15. Let me know if canceling or looking to swap!"


Just canceled Sawbill EP for this Sunday the 10th. As well as a Sawbill campsite for the 9th. Hopefully this will help you.

I am real bummed as I had three trips planned for this year and have had to cancel all three.

Sigh.......
rlstoner2004
member (10)member
  
09/07/2023 10:00AM  
Just gave up sawbill for Sept 15th
clae0001
  
09/08/2023 08:49AM  
Hi All:

Just cancelled my permit for Mudro Lake, entry on September 22! Good luck to those free on that weekend :-)

TC
bowpaddle
member (39)member
  
09/16/2023 08:56AM  
We just canceled EP 60 Duncan for Monday 9/25. Just not feeling it this year. Gonna car camp nearby.
WanderingWoodsmanMN
distinguished member (131)distinguished memberdistinguished memberdistinguished member
  
09/19/2023 03:54PM  
Will be cancelling Little Gabbro permit for September 24
09/27/2023 11:29AM  
Edit: It went very, very fast. The alert system works!

Clearwater Lake for tomorrow available shortly.

We are postponed by a day and will have to look elsewhere.
 
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