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01/09/2023 08:23PM
What water filters do you take into the BW?
On my first (6d 5n) trip last year I took a Sawyer Squeeze, and lemme tell ya, squeezing water through that got OLD after the 5
4th day lol. It works great for my weekend trips closer to home, but I'm looking for something that saves some wear and tear on my hands and wrists for future trips.
On my first (6d 5n) trip last year I took a Sawyer Squeeze, and lemme tell ya, squeezing water through that got OLD after the 5
4th day lol. It works great for my weekend trips closer to home, but I'm looking for something that saves some wear and tear on my hands and wrists for future trips.
01/09/2023 09:47PM
Gravity bag for sure.
I have a lifestraw system and a friend of mine has a platypus. I use camelback bags for clean water. We always ended using his filter and my bag.
There are some very detailed YouTube videos on the effectiveness of various filters and purification methods if you’ve got time to kill and are interested.
I have a lifestraw system and a friend of mine has a platypus. I use camelback bags for clean water. We always ended using his filter and my bag.
There are some very detailed YouTube videos on the effectiveness of various filters and purification methods if you’ve got time to kill and are interested.
01/10/2023 06:20AM
platypus gravity also - 4 litre
I back flush at least half of litre every time I use it, and I collect water in a collapsible bucket and let it settle before filtering. I suppose collecting water in middle of lake may make the bucket unnecessary but I like getting to camp. Have not need to replace filter in many years.
I back flush at least half of litre every time I use it, and I collect water in a collapsible bucket and let it settle before filtering. I suppose collecting water in middle of lake may make the bucket unnecessary but I like getting to camp. Have not need to replace filter in many years.
01/10/2023 08:52AM
billconner: "platypus gravity also - 4 litre
I back flush at least half of litre every time I use it, and I collect water in a collapsible bucket and let it settle before filtering. I suppose collecting water in middle of lake may make the bucket unnecessary but I like getting to camp. Have not need to replace filter in many years. "
Pack the "Dirty" bag where it is easily accessible. Pull it out at the end of the portage into the lake you plan on camping. Fill the bag in the center on the way to camp. No delay getting into camp.
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01/10/2023 11:45AM
I have a gravity system made from various bits and pieces and a Sawyer filter. I think my filter is larger than the ones from the squeeze. Great to see that so many people are happy with the Platypus filters. Overall, gravity is great.
01/10/2023 12:47PM
Platypus Gravity +1.
Also, I made the switch from a hard bottle clipped to my barrel to my highly recommended new LifeStraw Peak Series Collapsible Squeeze 650 Ml Bottle With Filter. This thing will absolutely not spring a leak and it has taken heavy abuse and has performed the whole time. What's really cool is that you can take the filter out of it and reverse mount it on top and then use the bottle to squeeze water into a pot for cooking, coffee, etc. I recommend the smaller one so you can clip it to your belt as you travel.
Also, I made the switch from a hard bottle clipped to my barrel to my highly recommended new LifeStraw Peak Series Collapsible Squeeze 650 Ml Bottle With Filter. This thing will absolutely not spring a leak and it has taken heavy abuse and has performed the whole time. What's really cool is that you can take the filter out of it and reverse mount it on top and then use the bottle to squeeze water into a pot for cooking, coffee, etc. I recommend the smaller one so you can clip it to your belt as you travel.
01/10/2023 01:09PM
I've been using various Sawyer water filter systems since 2014 . Hiking
in New Mexico, Wyoming, Minnesota (SHT) paddling in Missouri, Minnesota (BWCAW)
Wisconsin etc.
I initially used the Squeeze system but it was hard to "squeeze" enough for
a whole days hiking so I made my own Gravity system out of a Sawyer filter
and 2 L bag. I used that up until Last year when I bought a 1 Gallon Gravity system
from Sawyer.
https://www.sawyer.com/products/one-gallon-gravity-water-filtration-system
One gallon when I get to a campsite in the BW works for me.
I find that back flushing the filter when it starts to get slow works fine. Depending
on how much floating junk you have in your water source. That said I have never
used it on sources like the Colorado or Green Rivers where the silt load is VERY
high. I've read about having to use some Alum in that kind of water as a flocculent
to precipitate out a lot of silt but never had to use it .
Larry
in New Mexico, Wyoming, Minnesota (SHT) paddling in Missouri, Minnesota (BWCAW)
Wisconsin etc.
I initially used the Squeeze system but it was hard to "squeeze" enough for
a whole days hiking so I made my own Gravity system out of a Sawyer filter
and 2 L bag. I used that up until Last year when I bought a 1 Gallon Gravity system
from Sawyer.
https://www.sawyer.com/products/one-gallon-gravity-water-filtration-system
One gallon when I get to a campsite in the BW works for me.
I find that back flushing the filter when it starts to get slow works fine. Depending
on how much floating junk you have in your water source. That said I have never
used it on sources like the Colorado or Green Rivers where the silt load is VERY
high. I've read about having to use some Alum in that kind of water as a flocculent
to precipitate out a lot of silt but never had to use it .
Larry
01/10/2023 01:15PM
Obviously a lot of support for the Platy Gavity Filter system, but that thing ain't cheap. As a couple others have mentioned, it is easy to set up your Sawyer Squeeze and a gravity system. Just a matter of finding the right dirty and clean water bags, tubing, and connectors.
Here is an ultra-simple setup, which I use, that features two Cnoc Vecto bags and the Sawyer coupler. I have also done this system, but used a tube coupling and connected up to a traditional bladder.
Here is an ultra-simple setup, which I use, that features two Cnoc Vecto bags and the Sawyer coupler. I have also done this system, but used a tube coupling and connected up to a traditional bladder.
01/10/2023 03:13PM
geotramper: "Obviously a lot of support for the Platy Gavity Filter system, but that thing ain't cheap. As a couple others have mentioned, it is easy to set up your Sawyer Squeeze and a gravity system. Just a matter of finding the right dirty and clean water bags, tubing, and connectors.
Here is an ultra-simple setup, which I use, that features two Cnoc Vecto bags and the Sawyer coupler. I have also done this system, but used a tube coupling and connected up to a traditional bladder."
That's freakin ingenious. I already have 2 CNOC bags, so looks like I can make that without having to get any more parts. Never thought about rigging up the two bags that way. Those CNOCs are good bags.
01/10/2023 03:48PM
There are plenty of hanging filter knockoffs on Amazon. For group expeditions. I’ve been happy with my Waterdrop 6 liter at about a quarter of the cost of a Platypus. Following proper maintenance practices I have yet to have any issues. When on solo trips I rely upon my steripen.
Never better, attitude is a choice.
01/10/2023 04:04PM
Thirty years backpacking experience, parented 2 Boy Scouts over 12 years and own a half-dozen water filters... Nothing better in my experience than the Platypus 4L Gravity filter. Whether traveling solo or in a group of 9, it is the one filter that makes every trip.
01/10/2023 04:21PM
MacCamper: "There are plenty of hanging filter knockoffs on Amazon. For group expeditions. I’ve been happy with my Waterdrop 6 liter at about a quarter of the cost of a Platypus. Following proper maintenance practices I have yet to have any issues. When on solo trips I rely upon my steripen. "
I agree with McCamper, there are plenty of capable gravity water filter systems that are reasonably priced.
Go Flow 10L gravity bag with Versa Flow water filter
01/10/2023 05:41PM
MacCamper: "There are plenty of hanging filter knockoffs on Amazon. For group expeditions. I’ve been happy with my Waterdrop 6 liter at about a quarter of the cost of a Platypus. Following proper maintenance practices I have yet to have any issues. When on solo trips I rely upon my steripen. "
I personally wouldn't be comfortable using a cheap off-brand water filter. I'm usually pretty stingy, but there are a few places where I won't try to save a buck, and my health and safety is one of them. Its great if it works for you and you're comfortable with it, though.
01/11/2023 07:54AM
i use this for filtering water on-the-go.
I use this filter with these bags for in-camp water filtration.
If I had to upgrade, I'd go with the platypus system.
I use this filter with these bags for in-camp water filtration.
If I had to upgrade, I'd go with the platypus system.
"It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.”
01/11/2023 09:34AM
Tomcat: "MacCamper: "There are plenty of hanging filter knockoffs on Amazon. For group expeditions. I’ve been happy with my Waterdrop 6 liter at about a quarter of the cost of a Platypus. Following proper maintenance practices I have yet to have any issues. When on solo trips I rely upon my steripen. "
I agree with McCamper, there are plenty of capable gravity water filter systems that are reasonably priced.
Go Flow 10L gravity bag with Versa Flow water filter
"
Definitely recommend the Hydroblu Versa Flow. You only need a dirty bag since it is threaded on both ends so a Smartwater bottle can screw directly onto it. My setup goes:
- Dirty Bag (3L water bladder like a camelbak but with wide opening top and attached hose)
- Hangs with some paracord and a NiteIze Figure 9 carabiner for variable length.
- Hose clamp as shown on HydroBlu's site.
- Hose connects to Versa Flow filter
- Smart Water bottle screws into clean side of Versa Flow. Also works for the occasional purge when connected. You can also connect a clean Cnoc bag if desired.
01/11/2023 04:59PM
Our teams all use the Platypus gravity systems. 4 litre and 6 litre. We bought the 6 litre systems on sale for $60 each. You can find them on sale if you watch of it.
No better system out there in our opinion. . ..based on bringing 3 groups up a year for the last 15 years.
No better system out there in our opinion. . ..based on bringing 3 groups up a year for the last 15 years.
01/11/2023 07:16PM
geotramper: "Obviously a lot of support for the Platy Gavity Filter system, but that thing ain't cheap. As a couple others have mentioned, it is easy to set up your Sawyer Squeeze and a gravity system. Just a matter of finding the right dirty and clean water bags, tubing, and connectors.
Here is an ultra-simple setup, which I use, that features two Cnoc Vecto bags and the Sawyer coupler. I have also done this system, but used a tube coupling and connected up to a traditional bladder."
This is also what I do. Love the simplicity. Can backflush with a quick squeeze of the full clean bag - takes 5 seconds. And mine weighs 6 oz (5oz as pictured, 6 oz with a 3L Cnoc bag as the dirty bag.
The 3L Cnoc bag then is also a shower - fill it with warm water, screw on a bottle cap with a few small holes drilled in it... And you enjoy 5-6 minutes of a hot shower in the backcountry.
"I don't care what you believe. I care what you can prove." -Philosopher & Mathematician JJJ
01/11/2023 09:01PM
For a gravity filter around camp, I use 2 Cnoc bags attached to a Versa Flo by Hydroblu . The nice thing about the Versa Flo is it is designed to screw on the Cnoc bags to both ends. No other coupler needed. It is easily back flushed as well.
I have also fallen in love with the Katadyn BeFree for easy drinking while traveling during the day. My husband loves his Steripen. Katadyn BeFree
I have also fallen in love with the Katadyn BeFree for easy drinking while traveling during the day. My husband loves his Steripen. Katadyn BeFree
01/12/2023 07:55AM
sns: "geotramper: "Obviously a lot of support for the Platy Gavity Filter system, but that thing ain't cheap. As a couple others have mentioned, it is easy to set up your Sawyer Squeeze and a gravity system. Just a matter of finding the right dirty and clean water bags, tubing, and connectors.
Here is an ultra-simple setup, which I use, that features two Cnoc Vecto bags and the Sawyer coupler. I have also done this system, but used a tube coupling and connected up to a traditional bladder."
This is also what I do. Love the simplicity. Can backflush with a quick squeeze of the full clean bag - takes 5 seconds. And mine weighs 6 oz (5oz as pictured, 6 oz with a 3L Cnoc bag as the dirty bag.
The 3L Cnoc bag then is also a shower - fill it with warm water, screw on a bottle cap with a few small holes drilled in it... And you enjoy 5-6 minutes of a hot shower in the backcountry. "
Man, that shower idea sounds nice. I think it might seal the deal for me on this method. Definitely worth trying anyway.
01/12/2023 08:24AM
NEIowapaddler: "MacCamper: "There are plenty of hanging filter knockoffs on Amazon. For group expeditions. I’ve been happy with my Waterdrop 6 liter at about a quarter of the cost of a Platypus. Following proper maintenance practices I have yet to have any issues. When on solo trips I rely upon my steripen. "
I personally wouldn't be comfortable using a cheap off-brand water filter. I'm usually pretty stingy, but there are a few places where I won't try to save a buck, and my health and safety is one of them. Its great if it works for you and you're comfortable with it, though. "
FYI: Waterdrop is an international water filtration company. Waterdrop.com
Never better, attitude is a choice.
01/12/2023 09:16AM
HighnDry: "i use this for filtering water on-the-go.
I use this filter with these bags for in-camp water filtration.
If I had to upgrade, I'd go with the platypus system."
With the first 2 choices I'm surprised you didn't choose MRS TrailBase system as a single solution.
The Trailshot is so easy to use and easy to pack when on the move, combined with the ease and large quantity output of a gravity setup.
I converted my Trailshot to combined use right after it came out, bought the Trail Base when they were offered. I still have good First Need and Sawer filter sets but use the MSR instead.
butthead
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin
01/12/2023 11:35AM
butthead: "HighnDry: "i use this for filtering water on-the-go.
I use this filter with these bags for in-camp water filtration.
If I had to upgrade, I'd go with the platypus system."
With the first 2 choices I'm surprised you didn't choose MRS TrailBase system as a single solution.
The Trailshot is so easy to use and easy to pack when on the move, combined with the ease and large quantity output of a gravity setup.
I converted my Trailshot to combined use right after it came out, bought the Trail Base when they were offered. I still have good First Need and Sawer filter sets but use the MSR instead.
butthead"
Some of what I have was given to me as gifts and others I purchased outright. I'll look into your suggestion. I learn as I go.
"It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.”
01/12/2023 12:05PM
NEIowapaddler: "Man, that shower idea sounds nice. I think it might seal the deal for me on this method. Definitely worth trying anyway. "
It got a lot of positive feedback from the guys after our week in Quetico last May.
"I don't care what you believe. I care what you can prove." -Philosopher & Mathematician JJJ
01/12/2023 01:44PM
straighthairedcurly: "For a gravity filter around camp, I use 2 Cnoc bags attached to a Versa Flo by Hydroblu . The nice thing about the Versa Flo is it is designed to screw on the Cnoc bags to both ends. No other coupler needed. It is easily back flushed as well.
I have also fallen in love with the Katadyn BeFree for easy drinking while traveling during the day. My husband loves his Steripen. Katadyn BeFree "
I also use the Hydro-Blu VersaFlow filter between 2 CNOC bags. I also have a Sawyer Water Filter bottle for drinking on the go that I've been using for years.
01/13/2023 08:54AM
We take 2 and both have been mentioned a few times so far. A 6L platypus gravity filter for camp. Then a BeFree with the 600ml bladder that i carry in the canoe for travel/daytrips/fishing.
We found that the 6l is plenty fast enough if the entire group needs water on a travel day. we pack it on top, sets up fast and plenty fast enough to fill everyone's water bottle at the end of a portage. The days of the extra Be-Free filter may be numbered.
My personal option is get the bigger 6L bags over the 4L or 2L . Even on a trip last year with just 2 of us we loved the extra capacity of the 6L dirty bag.
We found that the 6l is plenty fast enough if the entire group needs water on a travel day. we pack it on top, sets up fast and plenty fast enough to fill everyone's water bottle at the end of a portage. The days of the extra Be-Free filter may be numbered.
My personal option is get the bigger 6L bags over the 4L or 2L . Even on a trip last year with just 2 of us we loved the extra capacity of the 6L dirty bag.
01/13/2023 09:06AM
IndyCanoe: "We take 2 and both have been mentioned a few times so far. A 6L platypus gravity filter for camp. Then a BeFree with the 600ml bladder that i carry in the canoe for travel/daytrips/fishing.
We found that the 6l is plenty fast enough if the entire group needs water on a travel day. we pack it on top, sets up fast and plenty fast enough to fill everyone's water bottle at the end of a portage. The days of the extra Be-Free filter may be numbered.
My personal option is get the bigger 6L bags over the 4L or 2L . Even on a trip last year with just 2 of us we loved the extra capacity of the 6L dirty bag. "
I had 4 litre bags. Then the 6 litre systems went on sale for $60 and I bought two. After using them I got rid of the 4 litre systems. The 6 litre don't take any more room and cut back our refilling to once a day
01/13/2023 10:23AM
Tomcat: "The site is under maintenance and I was not able to load photos."
Glad I'm not the only one...I got the same error starting Wednesday.
"I don't care what you believe. I care what you can prove." -Philosopher & Mathematician JJJ
01/13/2023 10:38AM
Platypus 4L gravity. I wouldn't mind getting a 6L bag set for extra in-camp capacity. Love the suggestion of keeping the dirty accessible and filling on the way in to camp. I'll have to keep that in mind for my next trip.
My clean bag failed after 7 years of 1-3 trips per year of use. I contacted Cascade Designs and they sent me a set of the newer design bags.
My clean bag failed after 7 years of 1-3 trips per year of use. I contacted Cascade Designs and they sent me a set of the newer design bags.
When a man is part of his canoe, he is part of all that canoes have ever known. - Sigurd F. Olson, "The Singing Wilderness"
01/13/2023 02:35PM
Gravity filters are great when you are in camp. They are my primary water source.
I would not go on a trip without my MSR Hyperflow though. I use it while traveling and to get colder water. It's great to say that you are just going to use the gravity filter and be set for the day, but we push hard and cover a lot of ground. This means sweating and drinking lots of water. Over a whole day, I might stop to refill once or twice, and that's with 2 Nalgene bottles. I've read before that, depending on how hot it is, you should be drinking 3/4ths to 1 full Nalgene bottle an hour. I'm not going to carry that much water.
I love using the gravity filters and use them when possible over my pump filter, but the Hyperflow is a 'need' and the Platypus is only a 'want'.
I would not go on a trip without my MSR Hyperflow though. I use it while traveling and to get colder water. It's great to say that you are just going to use the gravity filter and be set for the day, but we push hard and cover a lot of ground. This means sweating and drinking lots of water. Over a whole day, I might stop to refill once or twice, and that's with 2 Nalgene bottles. I've read before that, depending on how hot it is, you should be drinking 3/4ths to 1 full Nalgene bottle an hour. I'm not going to carry that much water.
I love using the gravity filters and use them when possible over my pump filter, but the Hyperflow is a 'need' and the Platypus is only a 'want'.
01/13/2023 02:55PM
Definitely look into a gravity filter. I have the MSR AutoFlow and really like it but the one by Platypus is nice as well. Much better than having to squeeze through the Sawyer.
"Simplicity in all things is the secret of the wilderness and one of its most valuable lessons." -Sigurd F Olson
01/13/2023 03:41PM
A1t2o: "Gravity filters are great when you are in camp. They are my primary water source.
I would not go on a trip without my MSR Hyperflow though. I use it while traveling and to get colder water. It's great to say that you are just going to use the gravity filter and be set for the day, but we push hard and cover a lot of ground. This means sweating and drinking lots of water. Over a whole day, I might stop to refill once or twice, and that's with 2 Nalgene bottles. I've read before that, depending on how hot it is, you should be drinking 3/4ths to 1 full Nalgene bottle an hour. I'm not going to carry that much water.
I love using the gravity filters and use them when possible over my pump filter, but the Hyperflow is a 'need' and the Platypus is only a 'want'."
Love my Hyperflow as well. Most people don't realize that it can be used as a gravity filter as well as a pump filter - which is why I bought it - dual use! Just connect up the hoses to the source bag and the clean bag and give it a pump cycle or two to get it going.
pd
portage dog
01/13/2023 07:04PM
We have been taking two filters with us the last several trips. We have the older model Sawyer that we put an inline filter in and then we have a Katadyn gravity as well. I drilled out an old Katadyn filter so I can use a Sawyer inline filter if needed. I always take a few filters with me to be safe.
01/16/2023 06:22AM
Sparkeh: "Lifestraw gravity purifier. I do not trust a basic filter after seeing people sick on long distance hikes. "
I think many of the water sources on long distance trails don't compare to the sources in the BWCAW and Quetico. I think based on other threads a third or more don't filter at all, just dip and drink. I have from time to time, and no ill effects.
01/16/2023 09:19AM
We have platy gravity filters for our group. I really appreciate the simplicity of a gravity system. I also like the clean and dirty bags that come with the platy stuff. If you don't do platy, I recommend having a large-ish reservoir to filter into. That way you can hang the filter and fill a reservoir with clean water while you do everything else getting camp ready. A folding bucket is convenient for gating water too.
We also carry life straw water bottles, so when we're paddling we can just dip straight from the lake without having to set up the filter system
We also carry life straw water bottles, so when we're paddling we can just dip straight from the lake without having to set up the filter system
01/16/2023 11:25AM
sns: "NEIowapaddler: "Man, that shower idea sounds nice. I think it might seal the deal for me on this method. Definitely worth trying anyway. "
It got a lot of positive feedback from the guys after our week in Quetico last May."
Now that the photo upload function is working, here's a pic of the shower head.
Weight penalty is about two grams.
"I don't care what you believe. I care what you can prove." -Philosopher & Mathematician JJJ
03/08/2023 03:07AM
For group camping, sawyer gravity filter. For solo, katadyn pocket pump filter.
Funny story, my mates & I brought a Brita filter (like the ones in a plastic pitcher) on our first trip haha. Needless to say, it did not last long before it stopped flowing.
Funny story, my mates & I brought a Brita filter (like the ones in a plastic pitcher) on our first trip haha. Needless to say, it did not last long before it stopped flowing.
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