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06/10/2025 11:36AM
Late Sunday afternoon, June 8, at approximately 4:00 pm, park rangers at Isle Royale National Park received two separate reports of two persons found deceased at a remote backcountry campground within the park.
Two rangers hiked overnight 11 miles to the campground to assess the situation, arriving early Monday morning, confirming two unidentified persons found deceased. The causes of death are unknown at this time.
Additional ground and aviation resources responded starting Monday. The incident is currently under investigation. More information will be released as it is made available.
I have a pretty good idea what happened; however, it is not place to say.
Two rangers hiked overnight 11 miles to the campground to assess the situation, arriving early Monday morning, confirming two unidentified persons found deceased. The causes of death are unknown at this time.
Additional ground and aviation resources responded starting Monday. The incident is currently under investigation. More information will be released as it is made available.
I have a pretty good idea what happened; however, it is not place to say.
06/10/2025 03:57PM
A person I trust (and in a position to know) said that campers packed up and fled the Lake Desor South campground due to hearing a fight with sustained yelling and screaming including a male making violent threats (self harm and harm to others). The campers called 911 when they got a cell signal on the Greenstone Ridge Trail before reaching rangers near Windigo. Windigo to South Desor is about 12 miles. If confirmed that this is related to the deaths, it adds unthinkable tragedy upon the tragedy.
Sun went down in honey and the moon came up in wine -- John Barlow
06/10/2025 06:19PM
KawnipiKid: "A person I trust (and in a position to know) said that campers packed up and fled the Lake Desor South campground due to hearing a fight with sustained yelling and screaming including a male making violent threats (self harm and harm to others). The campers called 911 when they got a cell signal on the Greenstone Ridge Trail before reaching rangers near Windigo. Windigo to South Desor is about 12 miles. If confirmed that this is related to the deaths, it adds unthinkable tragedy upon the tragedy. "
Sounds like what I suspected a murder/suicide.
06/11/2025 09:18AM
RatherbeDuffing: "What type of protection?"
Condoms... one must take protection seriously.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
06/11/2025 09:30AM
We don’t really know for sure what happened yet do we? I mean the speculation so far seems reasonable, but so far it’s just speculation.
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“Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.” Henry David Thoreau
06/11/2025 12:26PM
timatkn: "We don’t really know for sure what happened yet do we? I mean the speculation so far seems reasonable, but so far it’s just speculation.
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Good reminder! Correct, we don't know what happened yet. I tried to keep it strictly to facts that were verified on the ground on the Isle by someone I know well and trust.
Sun went down in honey and the moon came up in wine -- John Barlow
06/11/2025 03:43PM
KawnipiKid: "timatkn: "We don’t really know for sure what happened yet do we? I mean the speculation so far seems reasonable, but so far it’s just speculation.
T"
Good reminder! Correct, we don't know what happened yet. I tried to keep it strictly to facts that were verified on the ground on the Isle by someone I know well and trust. "
Although it is speculation. KawnipiKid - your story does align with what was posted in the Isle Royale subreddit. Someone had posted about hearing a bunch of commotion in that area 2 days before the bodies were found.
All in all, it is sad to hear.
06/12/2025 08:01AM
FBI was called in to help investigate: This may be standard procedure or an indication something went bad.
Per recent news:
What we don't know:
The National Park Service has not confirmed a cause of death.
As of Wednesday afternoon, there was no update from the department.
What they're saying:
An FBI spokesperson issued a statement to FOX 2 confirming that FBI employees had been on the island, but added it did not mean the agency had begun a probe into the deaths.
"We routinely assist our law enforcement partners upon request; however, this does not necessarily result in the FBI opening an investigation. FBI policy prohibits the confirmation of the existence of investigations, the release of information on investigations and any public report on the closing on an investigation."
Per recent news:
What we don't know:
The National Park Service has not confirmed a cause of death.
As of Wednesday afternoon, there was no update from the department.
What they're saying:
An FBI spokesperson issued a statement to FOX 2 confirming that FBI employees had been on the island, but added it did not mean the agency had begun a probe into the deaths.
"We routinely assist our law enforcement partners upon request; however, this does not necessarily result in the FBI opening an investigation. FBI policy prohibits the confirmation of the existence of investigations, the release of information on investigations and any public report on the closing on an investigation."
“Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.” Henry David Thoreau
06/12/2025 09:55PM
tumblehome: "Jackfish: "RatherbeDuffing: "What type of protection?"
Condoms... one must take protection seriously."
Really inappropriate."
Considering the tragic context of this thread, I'm sorry that I must agree with tumblehome.
Jackfish, as a moderator of this site, you do tremendous work and are to be admired for the quality you maintain for this forum which has kept me engaged here for quite a number of years and has led me to a number of your advertisers. In doing so you have therefore set a "higher standard" for yourself so whereas others may have more leeway in a situation like this, I would expect that you as a moderator would want to reserve what I assume was an attempt at humor for more lighthearted discussions.
Sorry for the downer comment but the fact remains that two people are dead and that's what struck me when I first read your post. When I saw tublehome's reply, I felt compelled to chime in as well as respectfully as I could. Thanks.
06/15/2025 11:54AM
Tumblehome and bottomtothetap: Lighten up, Francis. I don't like Jackfish's instigation on the whether to carry firearms in the BWCA or not, which is exactly what he was doing, nor his history on this topic to let his opinion rule the day even when civil discussion are occurring. Many ways to bake a cake. But it's a internet message board, save the holier than thou for a venue a little more appropriate.
06/15/2025 10:44PM
Geez, I go away for the weekend and don't even look at the board, and when I do, I see that I'm being criticized for a joke on a messageboard. Nothing I say will change anyone's mind one way or the other so I'll just let it pass.
I appreciate CoachWalleye's comment of "lighten up, Francis" as a sort of show of support, but the comment about my "opinion ruling the day even when civil discussions are taking place" was off target. I should never be considered the final say. I'm just a board member like everyone else and I enjoy the daily questions, comments, responses and everyday back and forth banter.
I respect all of you and your opinions. I'll leave it at that.
I appreciate CoachWalleye's comment of "lighten up, Francis" as a sort of show of support, but the comment about my "opinion ruling the day even when civil discussions are taking place" was off target. I should never be considered the final say. I'm just a board member like everyone else and I enjoy the daily questions, comments, responses and everyday back and forth banter.
I respect all of you and your opinions. I'll leave it at that.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
06/15/2025 11:19PM
This guy was at the campground on the night of June 6th, and heard enough disturbed screaming and yelling from the other section that he and his group decided to packed up at 11pm and hiked out 12 mile. They called 911 as soon as they had a signal.
https://www.reddit.com/r/isleroyale/comments/1l5ti5e/comment/mwk8tla/
https://www.reddit.com/r/isleroyale/comments/1l5ti5e/screams_at_desor_south_on_6625
https://www.reddit.com/r/isleroyale/comments/1l5ti5e/comment/mwk8tla/
https://www.reddit.com/r/isleroyale/comments/1l5ti5e/screams_at_desor_south_on_6625
06/15/2025 11:31PM
Sorry you will need to copy and paste link. His post was from June 7th, a day before bodies were found. In the thread is a campground map, he was camped at 7 and thought the yelling and threats were coming from the group camping area.
06/16/2025 07:24AM
You have the ability to post direct links is as well. Ironically the directions are right above this post :) I put a link below.
Just an FYI both of those threads are locked in Reddit with the message:
“ PLEASE KEEP THE CONVERSATION CIVIL.
Out of respect for the families of any potential victims I’m asking that all commenters stop speculating or spreading rumors. NPS will update all of us when they are able.
If you have relevant information please contact the park or appropriate agencies.
Any more legitimate reports on this post or issues with folks not remaining civil this thread will be locked.
Please re-familiarize yourselves with the rules on this sub Reddit before commenting or reporting posts.
” Posting links
Just an FYI both of those threads are locked in Reddit with the message:
“ PLEASE KEEP THE CONVERSATION CIVIL.
Out of respect for the families of any potential victims I’m asking that all commenters stop speculating or spreading rumors. NPS will update all of us when they are able.
If you have relevant information please contact the park or appropriate agencies.
Any more legitimate reports on this post or issues with folks not remaining civil this thread will be locked.
Please re-familiarize yourselves with the rules on this sub Reddit before commenting or reporting posts.
” Posting links
“Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.” Henry David Thoreau
06/18/2025 10:37PM
timatkn: "Windigo is an awesome place on Isle Royale. "
Yes it is. A great place for a celebratory photo after hiking 50 miles from Rock Harbor.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
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