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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Trip Planning Forum Different kind of trip - Perspective appreciated
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08/20/2025 05:41PM
Hello. Made my first trip to the BWCA About ten years ago, solo. Have done a solo trip each year since, minus one (damn work). It’s easy to get hooked on this amazing place.
Work again impacted this years plan, but I am going to try something different. I booked a cabin on Lake One. I plan day trips from it for a week, exploring some areas I have not paddled before, and sleeping in a bed at night. No looking for a campsite every day. No setting up camp each day as a solo tripper. No packing up camp every morning as a solo tripper. I think, perhaps naively, that I could spend a lot more time on the water, knowing I am paddling back to the cabin. I realize that I will miss the solitude that comes with venturing deeper in to the wilderness.
With multiple entry points on Lake One, and what I perceive to be a longer travel window each day, I would appreciate any insights, suggestions, or lessons learned that might help my first foray into this avenue of BWCA experience. This website and the members here have provided incredibly valuable insights, guidance, and sharing of experiences that significantly contributed to the success of my solo trip experiences. Thank you for that!
P.S. If anyone is going to be at Kawishiwi Lodge week of Sept 6th -12th, stop by to say hello and have a beverage.
Work again impacted this years plan, but I am going to try something different. I booked a cabin on Lake One. I plan day trips from it for a week, exploring some areas I have not paddled before, and sleeping in a bed at night. No looking for a campsite every day. No setting up camp each day as a solo tripper. No packing up camp every morning as a solo tripper. I think, perhaps naively, that I could spend a lot more time on the water, knowing I am paddling back to the cabin. I realize that I will miss the solitude that comes with venturing deeper in to the wilderness.
With multiple entry points on Lake One, and what I perceive to be a longer travel window each day, I would appreciate any insights, suggestions, or lessons learned that might help my first foray into this avenue of BWCA experience. This website and the members here have provided incredibly valuable insights, guidance, and sharing of experiences that significantly contributed to the success of my solo trip experiences. Thank you for that!
P.S. If anyone is going to be at Kawishiwi Lodge week of Sept 6th -12th, stop by to say hello and have a beverage.
It's all good
08/20/2025 06:18PM
Last month I did a trip along these lines. For the first time my buddy and I camped in a trailer and did a variety of day trips. We are both 70 years old and that was a big part of our decision. We first planned to camp at Fall Lake but actually ended up at East Bearskin up the Gunflint.
Some pros and cons from my perspective:
Pro
I slept better.
I liked having my truck and gear.
Took some things I wouldn't take in a canoe such as a comfy rocking chair and an Ecoflow battery for charging things.
I enjoyed driving to different nearby lakes everyday.
We had one day of torrential rain and we just drove around exploring, Gunflint Lodge, Clearwater Lodge, etc. and got some good food and a pint or two.
Con
Our campsite was not in view of the water.
Just not the same feel as being out in the woods on your own.
Not a great place to swim.
I have spent a night in a cabin at Kawishiwi Lodge and found it to be a very nice place. You won't be out in the woods like at a campsite but you will be close to the water, have a great view, be a few seconds from your canoe, be able to walk to shore to fish or swim. Plus you will have a shower!
I expect you will love it! You can do a lot of exploring without ever leaving but if you choose to drive there will be a lot close by as well.
Have a great trip!
Some pros and cons from my perspective:
Pro
I slept better.
I liked having my truck and gear.
Took some things I wouldn't take in a canoe such as a comfy rocking chair and an Ecoflow battery for charging things.
I enjoyed driving to different nearby lakes everyday.
We had one day of torrential rain and we just drove around exploring, Gunflint Lodge, Clearwater Lodge, etc. and got some good food and a pint or two.
Con
Our campsite was not in view of the water.
Just not the same feel as being out in the woods on your own.
Not a great place to swim.
I have spent a night in a cabin at Kawishiwi Lodge and found it to be a very nice place. You won't be out in the woods like at a campsite but you will be close to the water, have a great view, be a few seconds from your canoe, be able to walk to shore to fish or swim. Plus you will have a shower!
I expect you will love it! You can do a lot of exploring without ever leaving but if you choose to drive there will be a lot close by as well.
Have a great trip!
08/20/2025 06:45PM
Thanks Traveler!
I appreciate you sharing a similar experience. It’s funny how I am adjusting my trip packing list. Instead of looking to cut items and save weight, I am asking myself what other comfort items I might want to bring. :)
I don’t mind paddling in the rain, so long as it isn’t Thunderstorms. But I take your point on the ability to jump in a car and go take in another adventure for part of the day if the weather isn’t cooperating. My past trips have typically been limited to part of the day before entry, and part of the day after exit, to explore Ely and the surrounding sites of interest. Those days were always part of the “travel schedule”, and not part of the “trip”. This option could expand my time for local engagement.
Thanks again!
Safe travels
I appreciate you sharing a similar experience. It’s funny how I am adjusting my trip packing list. Instead of looking to cut items and save weight, I am asking myself what other comfort items I might want to bring. :)
I don’t mind paddling in the rain, so long as it isn’t Thunderstorms. But I take your point on the ability to jump in a car and go take in another adventure for part of the day if the weather isn’t cooperating. My past trips have typically been limited to part of the day before entry, and part of the day after exit, to explore Ely and the surrounding sites of interest. Those days were always part of the “travel schedule”, and not part of the “trip”. This option could expand my time for local engagement.
Thanks again!
Safe travels
It's all good
08/21/2025 03:17AM
After many years in the BWCA I have realized what I like best is simply traveling through the wilderness unencumbered by big loads and not worrying about finding an open campsite each night, especially in July and August. I also live about a 4 hour drive from many entry points, have my own gear, and a van with a bed in it. The day permit piece works well for me and I can spend the entire day on the water and cover considerable distances. I can also keep an eye on the weather forecast and can wait for good weather. I carry a small pack with food, coffee, and emergency gear, maybe a fishing rod, start paddling before the sun, sometimes in the dark if I know the lake and usually stumble back into my van late in the day. I know many spots where I can pull the van off in the woods for the night and head out again the next morning. While I am retired now I still am a strong paddler, good navigator and know my limits. If I want to carry gear I go in June or Sept. and October. The key to survival in the BWCA to not making poor decisions, usually made around wind or moving water and not having the correct clothing to protect from the elements (hypothermia). I am very comfortable in the wilderness and simply enjoy traveling through wild places in my little canoe propelled by my physical exertion. Its not a burden to travel this way, its a gift.
08/21/2025 07:01AM
it's good to try different ways to enjoy the wilderness.
due to some health and mobility issues i've been enjoying the northwoods by staying at cabins and doing day trips.
places i've really enjoyed:
Rockwood cabin 3, small, one bed, bath, kitchen, fire ring, small dock to fish from (and you can catch fish!).
Tuscarora cabin 3, 2br, bath, kitchen, deck. no fires on the property. we fished from the dock at their landing and caught little fishes. there are two cabins that share a dock and private swimming area that look very nice. despite being a busy outfitter it is surprisingly quiet.
Seagull Creek fishing camp, only a few cabins mostly used by folks also using their guide service which we've done on two occasions. they took us to Sag and we caught some VERY nice fish (which are still swimming). also a quiet place, there is a small pond where you might see a moose. there was a pack of wolves that were nearby one early morning, that will raise the hairs on your neck!
Gunflint Pines, we had an a-frame cabin one fall, easy walking to the waterfront and lodge for pizza and visiting. we've also stayed in a cottage in the winter and it was very cozy and toasty.
Cross River Lodge, we stayed in a small one room B&B above the lodge one winter. had a scrumptious breakfast in the morning before heading out moose or any animal, bird searching. this place is now back to one of its original names of Borderland Lodge. it was also Moosehorn Lodge at one time.
all these places have boats w/motors, canoes, kayaks, SUPs.... we'll take a boat for sight seeing, but prefer hiring a guide for fishing. it's just easier to be relatively certain of catching fish. we only bring 2 home.
a cabin or campground stay is definitely different than a canoe adventure. one of the biggest differences is missing the feeling of being on your own in the middle of nowhere. it's a different mindset. it's not for everyone, but it should be an experience everyone has at some point in their lives.
i agree with the pros and cons listed by Traveler and will also add that it costs a bit more for the non-canoe trip experience.
due to some health and mobility issues i've been enjoying the northwoods by staying at cabins and doing day trips.
places i've really enjoyed:
Rockwood cabin 3, small, one bed, bath, kitchen, fire ring, small dock to fish from (and you can catch fish!).
Tuscarora cabin 3, 2br, bath, kitchen, deck. no fires on the property. we fished from the dock at their landing and caught little fishes. there are two cabins that share a dock and private swimming area that look very nice. despite being a busy outfitter it is surprisingly quiet.
Seagull Creek fishing camp, only a few cabins mostly used by folks also using their guide service which we've done on two occasions. they took us to Sag and we caught some VERY nice fish (which are still swimming). also a quiet place, there is a small pond where you might see a moose. there was a pack of wolves that were nearby one early morning, that will raise the hairs on your neck!
Gunflint Pines, we had an a-frame cabin one fall, easy walking to the waterfront and lodge for pizza and visiting. we've also stayed in a cottage in the winter and it was very cozy and toasty.
Cross River Lodge, we stayed in a small one room B&B above the lodge one winter. had a scrumptious breakfast in the morning before heading out moose or any animal, bird searching. this place is now back to one of its original names of Borderland Lodge. it was also Moosehorn Lodge at one time.
all these places have boats w/motors, canoes, kayaks, SUPs.... we'll take a boat for sight seeing, but prefer hiring a guide for fishing. it's just easier to be relatively certain of catching fish. we only bring 2 home.
a cabin or campground stay is definitely different than a canoe adventure. one of the biggest differences is missing the feeling of being on your own in the middle of nowhere. it's a different mindset. it's not for everyone, but it should be an experience everyone has at some point in their lives.
i agree with the pros and cons listed by Traveler and will also add that it costs a bit more for the non-canoe trip experience.
08/21/2025 11:58AM
We stayed at one of Voyageur Outfitters cabins last fall at the end of the Gunflint trail. They have a number of places to stay on both sides of the Sea Gull River right at the access to the BW. Most are across the river (which they supply a canoe if you don't have one) in the woods. You still have easy access to the outfitter building and vehicle if needed but need to ferry your gear/food across the river. Only a couple overlook the water but there are firepits overlooking the river as well. We were the only occupants the long weekend we stayed giving us that feeling of solitude in the BWCA. Staying on the Sea Gull River gives you good access to both Sag and Sea Gull Lakes. While I certainly still prefer to push deep into the wilderness, it was a nice change of pace with the family to have more modern amenities to come back to after full days of paddling and fishing.
08/21/2025 01:17PM
Just got back from a trip out of Ep 54 seagull, I hate to admit it but I struggled with portaging and paddling (always against the wind) . My grandson saved the day!!
I would like to hear about dispersed camping similar to the ones described but not staying at a cabin or camp ground . Driving down a forest service road and just finding a spot near a lake and setting up is what I'm thinking of to replace my solo trips.
I would like to hear about dispersed camping similar to the ones described but not staying at a cabin or camp ground . Driving down a forest service road and just finding a spot near a lake and setting up is what I'm thinking of to replace my solo trips.
08/21/2025 03:43PM
Great insight Portagerunner.
I appreciate hearing of another cabin option on the doorstep of the BWCA. My cousins love the idea of my solo trips but want a more “civilized” approach if they would join me.
It takes me 4 or 5 days to get in sync with my solo travel and enjoy the solitude. Then after day 7 or 8, I find myself wishing I had someone with me to share the amazing beauty. Thinking I may combine a solo trip with a group cabin experience.
I appreciate hearing of another cabin option on the doorstep of the BWCA. My cousins love the idea of my solo trips but want a more “civilized” approach if they would join me.
It takes me 4 or 5 days to get in sync with my solo travel and enjoy the solitude. Then after day 7 or 8, I find myself wishing I had someone with me to share the amazing beauty. Thinking I may combine a solo trip with a group cabin experience.
It's all good
08/21/2025 04:20PM
I’ve taken a day trip the last three years before entering the wilderness the following day.
For me, the hardest part is paddling back the way I came. Mainly because of the time aspect, I just feel like I can’t get very far away if I want to be back at home base at a reasonable time to allow for a meal and some evening relaxing.
That said, I totally see your logic in planning such a trip and I am confident it will be a success! Have a great time up there…just don’t get out too far!
For me, the hardest part is paddling back the way I came. Mainly because of the time aspect, I just feel like I can’t get very far away if I want to be back at home base at a reasonable time to allow for a meal and some evening relaxing.
That said, I totally see your logic in planning such a trip and I am confident it will be a success! Have a great time up there…just don’t get out too far!
08/21/2025 04:29PM
Yardstick…..
Are you implying that we are not all; more efficient, more energetic, faster, and stronger paddlers in the latter portion of a day on the water??
Seriously tho, sage advice. I have been wondering how far I would be willing to venture before ensuring a safe return to base. Like every solo trip so far, this will be a learning experience. …..an enjoyable one tho :)
Are you implying that we are not all; more efficient, more energetic, faster, and stronger paddlers in the latter portion of a day on the water??
Seriously tho, sage advice. I have been wondering how far I would be willing to venture before ensuring a safe return to base. Like every solo trip so far, this will be a learning experience. …..an enjoyable one tho :)
It's all good
08/22/2025 04:21AM
Paddle4Hike: "Yardstick…..
Are you implying that we are not all; more efficient, more energetic, faster, and stronger paddlers in the latter portion of a day on the water??
Seriously tho, sage advice. I have been wondering how far I would be willing to venture before ensuring a safe return to base. Like every solo trip so far, this will be a learning experience. …..an enjoyable one tho :)"
You are right , it is a learning experience and the learning never stops. On longer day trips the food you carry, the amount of water you drink, and for me personally the necessary coffee I need to consume all be come critically important. When these pieces are not sufficiant paddling efficiency diminishes. To learn your limitations take a circular test run. What I mean is get on a bigger lake with maybe some short portages, like Isabella for example. Short portage in, You can do a long paddle around the lake, add in a portage on either end and extend your route if you are feeling good. With this type of circle trip you are never too far away from the entry point if things fall apart for you. A note of caution, know the wind forecast on a bigger lake like this. It's also a great lake for a dark approach in that the entry portage is easy. Got on the water once at 3 AM because of a good northern lights forecast. Put the canoe in the water after a headlamp approach, paddled off shore for a bit on glass smooth water, set down my paddle and enjoyed the show. I will admit my trips can be exhausting but the I am at home in wild places. I turn 70 this year and suffer all the effects of aging that one expects (bad knees) but keeping a good fitness level along with some good luck has allowed me to continue my wilderness paddles.
08/22/2025 04:47AM
Paddle4Hike: "Merlyn,
Sounds like jsmithxc might have some insight into dispersed camping. I imagine there are many others on this site with great perspective and experience. "
Check out the Superior National Forest website and search on dispersed camping. The rules are quite simple and a no trace ethic is necessary. What I do is less camping and more parking my vehicle in an out of the way, quiet place and sleeping in the vehicle. I don't set up a tent, I usually eat and make coffee on a nice point somewhere after my paddle starts, light weight stove for coffee and my eating is quite simple. I am really not camping in the traditional sense and spend my day on the water. I eat to fuel. A stop on the way home at my one favorite restaurants is fun but I am on the water I eat quite simply, bars and such or a good pastry bought on the drive up.
08/22/2025 08:03AM
I did this once with my dad during Covid. There was no way I was going to get him to sleep on the ground at his age, so this was the closest to camping in the BWCA I was going to get with him. It ended up being a great trip and reminded me of our pheasant hunting trips in South Dakota, where we push hard all day then come back to a cabin with basic comforts.
It's a different experience but I would not say it is inherently better or worse. It depends on the person. I will say that having the option to hop in the car/truck and drive to a different entry point is a nice option, even though you can't travel in as far when you aren't staying overnight.
It's a different experience but I would not say it is inherently better or worse. It depends on the person. I will say that having the option to hop in the car/truck and drive to a different entry point is a nice option, even though you can't travel in as far when you aren't staying overnight.
08/22/2025 11:50PM
A1t20
I am father with a grown son, who enjoyed canoeing and backpacking trips with him growing up. Please let me say how happy it makes me to hear that you found a way to interact with your father in an outdoor environment you both enjoy!
I hadn’t thought about this avenue in that lens, but I will now. Thank you.
I am father with a grown son, who enjoyed canoeing and backpacking trips with him growing up. Please let me say how happy it makes me to hear that you found a way to interact with your father in an outdoor environment you both enjoy!
I hadn’t thought about this avenue in that lens, but I will now. Thank you.
It's all good
08/23/2025 08:58AM
Sounds like a great plan. Twice I had cabins reserved, once at Rockwood, with the intent to turn my ex gf on to the BW in a kinder gentler fashion so to speak than a portage trip. Unfortunately she is a psycho alcoholic and we could never stay together long enough to make it happen so I had to cancel both times. Dang…. Was a good plan, wrong person. With the right person it would have been a blast I’m sure.
Hope you have a great time!
Cheers scat
Hope you have a great time!
Cheers scat
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