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GettingGophery
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08/11/2026 10:15AM  
How are the water levels on that annoyingly low creek? How are the mud levels on that annoyingly muddy portage along the annoyingly low creek?
 
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08/12/2026 03:05PM  
We are headed that way from sawbill on Friday. Not sure when your trip is, but I'll be sure to comment if it's after we come back out.
 
GettingGophery
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08/12/2026 03:15PM  
It'll be labor day, and lots can change in few weeks, but I sure am curious.

Thanks!
 
Michwall2
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08/12/2026 05:20PM  
GettingGophery: "How are the water levels on that annoyingly low creek? How are the mud levels on that annoyingly muddy portage along the annoyingly low creek?"


If you know the route is annoying, why are going there? Life is too short to be annoyed all the time.

You could come at it from a different direction. Go up the Temperance River. Head over to Kelly Lake and then had north to South and North Temperance Lakes. Of course, you would have to do the annoying Sitka to Cherokee portage, but it would not be the annoying creek and annoying muddy portage.

Or you could choose to drive up to Missing LInk Lake or Cross Bay Lake entries and then you could paddle to Cherokee without being annoyed at all. However, somehow, I think you would find something to be annoyed at on that route.

I am annoyed that you got to go this year and are complaining about having to work around a little adversity. I had to cancel my trip. It is the route I was planning. At this point, I would have welcomed the chance to wade knee deep in the mud. So let's see who is more annoyed.

Hope you have an annoying trip! You lucky duck you.
 
NEIowapaddler
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08/12/2026 06:34PM  
Michwall2: "
GettingGophery: "How are the water levels on that annoyingly low creek? How are the mud levels on that annoyingly muddy portage along the annoyingly low creek?"



If you know the route is annoying, why are going there? Life is too short to be annoyed all the time.


You could come at it from a different direction. Go up the Temperance River. Head over to Kelly Lake and then had north to South and North Temperance Lakes. Of course, you would have to do the annoying Sitka to Cherokee portage, but it would not be the annoying creek and annoying muddy portage.


Or you could choose to drive up to Missing LInk Lake or Cross Bay Lake entries and then you could paddle to Cherokee without being annoyed at all. However, somehow, I think you would find something to be annoyed at on that route.


I am annoyed that you got to go this year and are complaining about having to work around a little adversity. I had to cancel my trip. It is the route I was planning. At this point, I would have welcomed the chance to wade knee deep in the mud. So let's see who is more annoyed.


Hope you have an annoying trip! You lucky duck you."


If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all...
 
GettingGophery
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08/12/2026 06:50PM  
Michwall2: "
GettingGophery: "How are the water levels on that annoyingly low creek? How are the mud levels on that annoyingly muddy portage along the annoyingly low creek?"



If you know the route is annoying, why are going there? Life is too short to be annoyed all the time.


You could come at it from a different direction. Go up the Temperance River. Head over to Kelly Lake and then had north to South and North Temperance Lakes. Of course, you would have to do the annoying Sitka to Cherokee portage, but it would not be the annoying creek and annoying muddy portage.


Or you could choose to drive up to Missing LInk Lake or Cross Bay Lake entries and then you could paddle to Cherokee without being annoyed at all. However, somehow, I think you would find something to be annoyed at on that route.


I am annoyed that you got to go this year and are complaining about having to work around a little adversity. I had to cancel my trip. It is the route I was planning. At this point, I would have welcomed the chance to wade knee deep in the mud. So let's see who is more annoyed.


Hope you have an annoying trip! You lucky duck you."


Please seek counseling. This is in no way a normal response to a slightly jokey question (though I am curious about that dang creek!) No one is whining but you. I was curious about a half hour that can be annoying on a multi-day trip to a really nice lake. This all is your problem and no one else's.
 
08/12/2026 08:19PM  
Seems to me it was also a slightly jokey response.
 
bottomtothetap
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08/13/2026 08:23AM  
Lightfoot: "Seems to me it was also a slightly jokey response."

I was thinking the same.
 
Michwall2
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08/16/2026 02:10PM  
NEIowapaddler: "
Michwall2: "
GettingGophery: "How are the water levels on that annoyingly low creek? How are the mud levels on that annoyingly muddy portage along the annoyingly low creek?"




If you know the route is annoying, why are going there? Life is too short to be annoyed all the time.



You could come at it from a different direction. Go up the Temperance River. Head over to Kelly Lake and then had north to South and North Temperance Lakes. Of course, you would have to do the annoying Sitka to Cherokee portage, but it would not be the annoying creek and annoying muddy portage.



Or you could choose to drive up to Missing LInk Lake or Cross Bay Lake entries and then you could paddle to Cherokee without being annoyed at all. However, somehow, I think you would find something to be annoyed at on that route.



I am annoyed that you got to go this year and are complaining about having to work around a little adversity. I had to cancel my trip. It is the route I was planning. At this point, I would have welcomed the chance to wade knee deep in the mud. So let's see who is more annoyed.



Hope you have an annoying trip! You lucky duck you."


If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all..."


What was not nice? Let's see:
I didn't call anyone names.
I didn't curse or use any other foul language.
I don't think I broke any other forum rules.
I gave constructive alternative route suggestions. Even pointing out where the OP might have become "annoyed" had he/she chosen to use those routes.
I explained my annoyance at his annoyance.
I even wished him a successful trip (I think?).

My response must have "annoyed" you.
 
Michwall2
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08/16/2026 02:25PM  
GettingGophery: "
Michwall2: "
GettingGophery: "How are the water levels on that annoyingly low creek? How are the mud levels on that annoyingly muddy portage along the annoyingly low creek?"




If you know the route is annoying, why are going there? Life is too short to be annoyed all the time.



You could come at it from a different direction. Go up the Temperance River. Head over to Kelly Lake and then had north to South and North Temperance Lakes. Of course, you would have to do the annoying Sitka to Cherokee portage, but it would not be the annoying creek and annoying muddy portage.



Or you could choose to drive up to Missing LInk Lake or Cross Bay Lake entries and then you could paddle to Cherokee without being annoyed at all. However, somehow, I think you would find something to be annoyed at on that route.



I am annoyed that you got to go this year and are complaining about having to work around a little adversity. I had to cancel my trip. It is the route I was planning. At this point, I would have welcomed the chance to wade knee deep in the mud. So let's see who is more annoyed.



Hope you have an annoying trip! You lucky duck you."



Please seek counseling. This is in no way a normal response to a slightly jokey question (though I am curious about that dang creek!) No one is whining but you. I was curious about a half hour that can be annoying on a multi-day trip to a really nice lake. This all is your problem and no one else's."


I learned annoyance from the best in the world. I taught middle school for 38 years. No one can out annoy a middle schooler. Hope your trip went well!
 
08/16/2026 04:17PM  
bottomtothetap: "
Lightfoot: "Seems to me it was also a slightly jokey response."

I was thinking the same."


Yes, I thought both parties were joking and I laughed at both posts.
 
08/20/2026 10:55AM  
The portages werent terribly muddy except the 110 rd one. The 95rd portage is only about 10rds now due to a very large beaver dam. You will have to pull over 2 beaver dams; the one blocking up the creek for the 95rd portage and there is also one on Cherokee creek. Even having to wait for 3 groups to portage over, we left sawbill at 9am and made Cherokee by 2ish. Hopefully the groups you share the portages with display a little better etiquette than we witnessed.
 
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