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Rambler_Dog
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02/02/2012 08:52PM  
my canoe (madriver guide royalex) is about 75lb. Just wondering how many other guys carry a heavy load over the portages? Do you plan your trip so you can avoid long portages?
 
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02/02/2012 09:57PM  
36# bell magic (gel coat).

i double portage and do not plan trips to avoid any of them.
 
02/02/2012 10:25PM  

I have a Bell Rockstar in Royalex at 49 lbs. I take pretty much any portage as a double portage with the small pack and canoe on one trip and the rest of the stuff on the second pass...
 
02/02/2012 10:28PM  
yes, that is a heavy canoe to portage. If I had to carry that weight it would probably make me think twice on routes with lots of portages or long portages. My kevlar Mad River weighs in at 55 lbs and I'm feeling some strain after a 120 rod portage. Seems like 5 lbs in weight makes a noticable difference when portaging. No offense, but if you, Jan, and I were tripping together, I'd be offering to carry Jan's boat. Unless you two gave me an extra slab of bacon for breakfast:)

 
yellowcanoe
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02/02/2012 10:32PM  
Ineligible. Own all. But not a guy.

I would leave my Royalex solo at home. Its a river runner anyway.

I actually enjoy the 33 lbs of my carbon fiber/kevlar solo. And I have an even lighter one(23 lbs) but its a pack canoe and I don't like sitting on the bottom as much as kneeling or sitting higher.

I am near 70 and prefer not to have too many killers in a day. I give up at five portages or a thousand rods total. The number is as important as the distance. I hate unloading and loading.
 
02/02/2012 11:58PM  
my 16' wood/canvas canoe is my solo boat. it paddles like a dream, it can handle any of the crap that the north can throw at you. it is the same boat that bill mason paddled (not the prospector, the pal). it is heavy. 65 lbs dry. more as it soaks up water. it is actually a very small canoe, 33" at the midsection, that and the round bottom makes for a very exciting ride. and it is fast, paddling solo i can keep a reasonable pace with many tandem canoes.

as far as portaging goes. i am 52, i am on ss disability due to a supposedly fatal, parkinsonism type disease. my goal, my entire life, was to be able to portage anywhere in the BWCA without giving it much thought. i've experienced three day portages in the artic, the bw is supposed to be easy. last summer it was not. the pine to canoe lake portage was a nightmare. if i was a sissy i would have cried. instead i have decided that i have to up my game. i am actually working out and such shizzle. skiing on fake snow.

my point is, if you have a canoe, any canoe, but not a coleman or one of those 1960s feux indian canoes, it doesn't matter what you are paddling, just that you are paddling. and have fun.
 
02/03/2012 12:18AM  
Bell Magic....and love it
 
02/03/2012 01:30AM  
wenonah solo plus kevlar gel coat about 50 lbs.

tony
 
02/03/2012 08:22AM  
My go to canoe is a kevlar Wenonah Encounter solo. It was 38#, but I should weigh it now as I've added a few things, so it's a bit heavier... Like maybe 42# with chair.
 
removedmember1
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02/03/2012 10:17AM  
My 33# Mad River Independence makes single portaging possible. I do prefer paddling my wood-canvas, though.
 
02/03/2012 10:52AM  
I'm lazy, clumsy, and on vacation, so I carry a 35lb main pack on one trip, and a 34lb canoe with an 18lb daypack on the second trip.
With those loads and attitude, the portage length does not matter!
Pre-kevlar, I would break 200 rod portages into parts and leapfrog, or find an open space off the portage to set gear down for a break.
Never planned to avoid long carries.

butthead
 
02/03/2012 04:15PM  
wenonah wilderness 32lbs and very stable
 
02/03/2012 05:25PM  
Blackhawk Starship fiberglass about 46 lbs.
 
MagicPaddler
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02/03/2012 05:44PM  
Photobucket
Do I need to say any thing?
 
02/03/2012 07:26PM  
I own 32# Kevlar solo and a 45# Black Gold Tandem, Oh and then the Heavier boat is a 69# Royalex Tandem, primarily a river boat.
It is now has a trip in to the BWCA...but oh I like the kevlar boats for BWCA tripping.
SunCatcher
 
chesapeakes
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02/03/2012 07:29PM  
30 lb Bell Merlin II
 
Rambler_Dog
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02/04/2012 11:54AM  
Hay Magic Paddler,
Are your gear in the canoe too?

RD
 
MagicPaddler
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02/04/2012 12:25PM  
Rambler
Na I carry it in my left hand when I portage.
 
jb in the wild
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02/04/2012 04:04PM  
Bell CJ 33# for a solo. SR Q 17 44# for a tandem. Beats the heck out of the 85# Old Town Disco. Still don't care for portages loading and unloading sucks.


JB
 
JoeWilderness
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02/04/2012 04:32PM  
quote MagicPaddler: "Photobucket
Do I need to say any thing?"



Magic - Paddler....Hhhhhmmmmmmmm.....Helium bags strapped in there?
 
Rambler_Dog
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02/04/2012 06:08PM  
This post made me realize that my canoe weighs more than two time most canoes. I am depressed!
 
MagicPaddler
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02/05/2012 07:40AM  
That is a Placid Rapidfire and that is a pack canoe similar to what yellowcanoe spoke of. This one was 27Lb new. You do set very near the bottom. I spent about 20 days last year tripping out of it and loved it.
 
02/05/2012 10:50AM  
Wenonah Moccasin..about 35#. Wenonah Solitude....about 47# (it's an older kevlar that must have some fg in it somewhere. I need to call in it's # to wenonah and see what is in the layup)
 
02/05/2012 03:13PM  
Bell Merlin II, black gold. I think its 34lbs. I could hold it up with one arm if I was coordinated. Alas, I am not.
 
JoeWilderness
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02/06/2012 12:15PM  
quote MagicPaddler: "That is a Placid Rapidfire and that is a pack canoe similar to what yellowcanoe spoke of. This one was 27Lb new. You do set very near the bottom. I spent about 20 days last year tripping out of it and loved it."


Uncle! Uncle! Okay my friend, I will give you credit for hefting that feather of a boat. A very nice looking canoe as well.
 
wetcanoedog
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02/06/2012 12:29PM  
my canoe weight changed with my age..in my 30's 85 pounds of fiberglass that i only took on the St Croix or Lac La Croix.in my 40's and 50's a Old Town Pathfinder in Royalex that i went all over the Q in.now at 65 i'm using a Bell Prospector,37 pounds or so in kevlar and i can take that anywhere.
 
billconner
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02/06/2012 01:30PM  
There was a canoe at Copia last year - I think a Savage River pack canoe - 12 pounds. It was amazing to just lift it.
 
yellowcanoe
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02/07/2012 11:19AM  
quote MagicPaddler: "That is a Placid Rapidfire and that is a pack canoe similar to what yellowcanoe spoke of. This one was 27Lb new. You do set very near the bottom. I spent about 20 days last year tripping out of it and loved it."


You can get a drop in high seat that fits over the low seat..and paddle with a single blade.

Mie RF is 23 lbs..hee hee. Mine is way more bashed up looking than yours.

Helium would be a nice touch but RF tends to fly away anyhow. If there was a downside to light boats you have to always tie them. Otherwise they are flighty and temperamental.
 
shsylvester
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02/09/2012 10:49AM  
Will Ruch wood/dacron 15' Tandem with kneeling thwart for solo paddling, 45#. Purchased late fall 2011. Will be doing my first solo trip with it this spring. Hope to keep my total weight under 100# to allow single portaging. 21 day solo, so getting the weight down will be a challenge, but I've been dehydrating and vacuum packing.
 
02/25/2012 04:31AM  
quote shsylvester: "Will Ruch wood/dacron 15' Tandem with kneeling thwart for solo paddling, 45#. Purchased late fall 2011. Will be doing my first solo trip with it this spring. Hope to keep my total weight under 100# to allow single portaging. 21 day solo, so getting the weight down will be a challenge, but I've been dehydrating and vacuum packing. "


Sure is pretty.
 
02/25/2012 04:32AM  
I've got a 17.5 foot cedar strip canoe that I bought well used. Its a tandem boat but I've paddled it around solo a number of times while kneeling behind the yoke. Nice boat in general. About 60 pounds or so...

Im actually looking for a solo canoe, if someone is interested in selling. I have a wanted post in the buying/selling page.

Tom t, how do you you like your starship?
 
eagle93
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03/11/2012 08:02AM  
kevlar UL prism for the BW
 
mr.barley
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03/11/2012 02:04PM  
37# Wenonah Advantage and a 34# Bell Magic
 
03/11/2012 02:24PM  
quote BearBrown: Tom t, how do you you like your starship?"


I really like it. It's not the lightest solo boat but it tracks well and has a nice low profile. I'll keep it till I'm an old codger and will probably give this to my son and upgrade to a boat under 30 lbs.

 
bwcasolo
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03/11/2012 03:14PM  
both here, royalex for the rivers, kevlar for lakes.
souris river el tegre 17, mad river 16 royalex, soon to own a kevlar ul prism.
 
Woods Walker
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03/25/2012 09:43AM  
16 ft 38 special cedar strip I built in 2005 weighed 39lbs when done... now after some use & a few extra coats of epoxy, guessing its closer to 45 lbs.

Always carry it with a pack, no issues.

 
gunny
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03/25/2012 10:27AM  
Another Placid Rapidfire similar to Magic and Yellowcanoe. With the carbon/Kevlar gunnels, around 25#. I also use it weekly here in town just to get out and enjoy, be it on the river or the lakes. Hey, at 62 it keeps me out there. Great picture Magic!
Don
 
03/25/2012 01:05PM  
quote Woods Walker: "16 ft 38 special cedar strip I built in 2005 weighed 39lbs when done... now after some use & a few extra coats of epoxy, guessing its closer to 45 lbs.


Always carry it with a pack, no issues.


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Troy, you look so young in that picture. :)
 
RaisedByBears99
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04/01/2012 05:48PM  
I've had royalex, aluminum, wood/canvas, and strip canoes. I currently have two kevlar solos and three kevlar tandem canoes. Less weight is nice.
 
bwcasolo
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04/01/2012 05:59PM  
both, royalex for the rivers here in ne iowa, and anywhere else, kevlar for lakes. mad river 16 ft. tandem, sriver quetico tandem, prism kev ul solo.
 
Woods Walker
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04/02/2012 08:08PM  
Well I thought all the Voyagers were short or maybe I'm a Hobbit...LOL... or maybe thats my little helper, my 9 year old son showing that he could lift it up... where does the time go hes bigger than me now!
 
markaroberts
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05/09/2012 09:03PM  
Wenonah Voyager in ultralight kevlar. . .17 1/2 feet but only 38 lbs.
 
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