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06/17/2012 08:30PM
that I am claustrophobic. I tried one of those once..I was not a happy camper.
The crawling in and out got to me too..especially middle of the night. You might be able to make alternate arrangements.
I am sure many would like it..but psychologically its not for me.
The crawling in and out got to me too..especially middle of the night. You might be able to make alternate arrangements.
I am sure many would like it..but psychologically its not for me.
06/17/2012 08:52PM
Lots of through hikers an UL hikers do that very thing.
I used a bivvy when I hitchhiked around europe in 1980. My bivvy didnt have mesh - just a solid rainfly . It did feel a little claustrophobic if it was raining for hours and I couldn't get out of the thing. Otherwise it was crack. The set up you describe would be marginally better - at least you could see more than 3 inches beyond your nose to the underside of the tarp. Having one of the slightly larger bivvies that allow you to sit up a bit might be better if you like a bit more room.
I used a bivvy when I hitchhiked around europe in 1980. My bivvy didnt have mesh - just a solid rainfly . It did feel a little claustrophobic if it was raining for hours and I couldn't get out of the thing. Otherwise it was crack. The set up you describe would be marginally better - at least you could see more than 3 inches beyond your nose to the underside of the tarp. Having one of the slightly larger bivvies that allow you to sit up a bit might be better if you like a bit more room.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
06/17/2012 08:54PM
You may want to consider the Warbonnet Blackbird hammock. By itself it weighs a little bit more, but you do not need to carry a sleep-pad. And, you will sleep like a baby.
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06/17/2012 09:00PM
I second the WBBB. Have one myself - great for use in the dub - the bivvy and tarp arrangement is great when you are not guaranteed to have trees.
The WBBB is a side entry. You still need to bring a tarp.
You could also consider the CCS Lean 2?
The WBBB is a side entry. You still need to bring a tarp.
You could also consider the CCS Lean 2?
You say that like it's a bad thing.
06/17/2012 10:02PM
The blackbird is a side entry. The BB is approx the same size sleeping quarters as a bivy but there are more advantages to being above ground. No ground tarp, no pressure points, and you'll always be level to name a few.
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06/18/2012 12:33AM
like the other fellows said,too tight.at best something for hikers who have no other choice.
if the poles on some tents could be replaced with really-really light weight ones "normal" tents could be used as ultralights.
i was putting away the dome tent i used at the Lake Jeanette "go home" camp and thought there was nothing to it as far as weight went until i put the poles in the stuff sack..
if the poles on some tents could be replaced with really-really light weight ones "normal" tents could be used as ultralights.
i was putting away the dome tent i used at the Lake Jeanette "go home" camp and thought there was nothing to it as far as weight went until i put the poles in the stuff sack..
it's just a level trail thru the woods.
06/18/2012 12:34PM
I actually was debating taking my gunnison 2 with a light tarp instead of a fly on my recent solo. Similar idea. The fly is the heaviest part of that tent.
I decided that the one pound or whatever I would have saved wasn't worth it since it would be a hassle to pitch a tarp rather than just tossing on the fly. Plus finding a good tent spot can be hard enough without having to have the tarp pitching requirement.
But I think the idea makes sense provided you don't mind the extra hassle of pitching a tarp.
I decided that the one pound or whatever I would have saved wasn't worth it since it would be a hassle to pitch a tarp rather than just tossing on the fly. Plus finding a good tent spot can be hard enough without having to have the tarp pitching requirement.
But I think the idea makes sense provided you don't mind the extra hassle of pitching a tarp.
06/18/2012 05:46PM
My old Mountain Pass Solo inner tent without fly under a 10x10 Campmor tarp. Saved about a pound of weight and was much cooler in hot humid conditions. The tent is a 2 pole self standing setup so I just hung the tarp and carried the tent inner body under, never bothered to stake it down.
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06/19/2012 08:46AM
guess it depends on taking a tarp, and how you want to use your tent.
Sleeping only, it would work, and a rainy day you could not set up the bivy and live under your tarp, good multi use. I think that is where you are going with this. But these things are really small and somewhat tough to get in and out of.
But I would want to buy that thru REI, set it up in my living room, and test sleep in it to see if you actually can, and pretend there are a million skeets around. You might have second thoughts, and then can return it.
If you are looking at a new set up, there are a lot of bigger, very light backpacking tents out there for a single person. Tarptents, zpacks, etc, if you want a very light tent by itself, and bring your tarp as well. More $ gear investment required.
Sleeping only, it would work, and a rainy day you could not set up the bivy and live under your tarp, good multi use. I think that is where you are going with this. But these things are really small and somewhat tough to get in and out of.
But I would want to buy that thru REI, set it up in my living room, and test sleep in it to see if you actually can, and pretend there are a million skeets around. You might have second thoughts, and then can return it.
If you are looking at a new set up, there are a lot of bigger, very light backpacking tents out there for a single person. Tarptents, zpacks, etc, if you want a very light tent by itself, and bring your tarp as well. More $ gear investment required.
07/04/2012 06:51PM
IMHO. I agree with the posts earlier...
WBBB...a larger lightweight tarp, like the Mamajamba, if it rains it can be positioned to cover me and and the gear while I still look out at the world.
1. Comfortable
2. It's lightweight....I know others may be lighter..see #1
3. Can double as a seat
4. Makes looking at a campsite a bit different before deciding if you like it. IE You walk into camp looking at trees, not tent pads.
Others:
Unleveled ground, who cares.
Rocks under you, who cares..unless you don't tie it up correctly, and in that case you probably shouldn't be in the woods, it's so fool proof.
It's raining and water runs under it, who cares.
I do prefer WBBB over the Hennessy, (although my Hennessy is several years old so things may have changed). Here is why I like it.
The side zips open and this is so nice. I open it up and can sit.
It's got a foot box, which makes the BB more comfortable then the Hennessy.
It's got a shelf inside for the extras we all take to bed with us....You know, book, light, toothpaste, snacks, beef jerky. Yes, I jest....
WBBB...a larger lightweight tarp, like the Mamajamba, if it rains it can be positioned to cover me and and the gear while I still look out at the world.
1. Comfortable
2. It's lightweight....I know others may be lighter..see #1
3. Can double as a seat
4. Makes looking at a campsite a bit different before deciding if you like it. IE You walk into camp looking at trees, not tent pads.
Others:
Unleveled ground, who cares.
Rocks under you, who cares..unless you don't tie it up correctly, and in that case you probably shouldn't be in the woods, it's so fool proof.
It's raining and water runs under it, who cares.
I do prefer WBBB over the Hennessy, (although my Hennessy is several years old so things may have changed). Here is why I like it.
The side zips open and this is so nice. I open it up and can sit.
It's got a foot box, which makes the BB more comfortable then the Hennessy.
It's got a shelf inside for the extras we all take to bed with us....You know, book, light, toothpaste, snacks, beef jerky. Yes, I jest....
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