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hobbydog
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08/10/2012 03:28PM   (Thread Older Than 3 Years)
So when you tell people your trip plans do you get the incredulous..."really?" response? I expect that from some people who would never understand but there are others who I expect would understand still seem to think you're nuts. Are we crazy?
 
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08/10/2012 04:10PM  
I have a friend who is a Cardiologist, and when I told him he said "Really?, what if you had a heart attack?"
 
08/10/2012 04:53PM  
my manly friends i have who hunt and fish all the time just shudder and say no thank you!
 
eagle93
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08/11/2012 09:00AM  
I sometimes get the "are you crazy?" stare. Other than people on this forum, I have never received a positive reply. Even people who I have tripped with, think I'm slightly off bubble.
 
billconner
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08/11/2012 12:57PM  
eagle - smae experience here. As to the cardiologist question - I'm fine - can't think of a better place, with apologies to the rangers in advance.
 
08/11/2012 06:09PM  
I dont think that most people are going to get why some of us enjoy getting out in the wild by ourselves. Self reflection, a deeper wilderness connection, being able to do what I want when I want, personal challenge, the quiet, are all reasons why I like spending time in the wild alone at times. Most people wont ever get out of their comfort zone and try spending time alone in the woods. I find it enjoyable and thats all that matters to me. I understand that others arent going to understand why. Ive been spending long periods of time in the woods alone since i started deer hunting when i was 12. For the better part of a week I was alone in the woods and only returned to camp in the evenings. I grew accustomed to it then, and still enjoy it now.
 
08/11/2012 11:11PM  
When I started soloing in the 1980's I was pretty self concious about it. I only did it then because I couldn't find a partner. At the time of my 1st solo in 1986 I didn't realize other people did it too.

I'll never forget as I was on my last day I met a guy who was solo in a 12 foot canoe. We talked as we crossed paths on the portage. He was starting a 6 week adventure and would be taking the Mississippi River home to where he lived in Savanah IL. I was blown away and inspired by him.

These days I really don't care what people say anymore, about going solo anyway.

 
08/12/2012 09:29PM  
I don't know about you, hobbydog, but I'm definitely crazy. That's probably why no one will go with me and I have to go alone, which just proves to them that I'm crazy. I tried telling them all that stuff BearBrown said, but they just won't buy it. They told me they'd call me so I wouldn't be lonely. You should have seen their faces when I told them I wouldn't have cell service...

Crazy, man.
 
08/12/2012 10:33PM  
I think people are used to me doing weird stuff like that. Had one guy say he couldn't do anything so unproductive... I laughed.
 
eagle93
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08/13/2012 12:15AM  
I was leading a group of HS students on the Lake One to Snowbank through Insula and Ima when near Hudson we ran across a 74 y/o lady on a 10 day solo. It was her first canoe trip. She was trying out her new canoe. She had driven from Washington to pick it up. Since there was a backlog at the portage we had time to talk, an incredible lady, all 5ft, 90 pounds of her. All of her friends were too old to go with her, so she went alone.
 
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08/13/2012 08:22AM  
Went alone my first time because my buddy canceled on me. Enjoyed it enough that I kept going when he or my daughter would cancel on me. It's definitely not for everyone but I like being out solo so I can do what I want when I want.
 
JoeWilderness
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08/13/2012 12:06PM  
quote mooseplums: "I have a friend who is a Cardiologist, and when I told him he said "Really?, what if you had a heart attack?"
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He should also have told you that 50% of all heart attack victims die on the spot anyway. Guys like us can only dream of dying on an adventure, rather than some sterile hospital bed.

I ain't staying home either mooseplums. Perhaps one day we will run into each other out there.
 
hobbydog
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08/13/2012 12:36PM  
quote JoeWilderness: "
quote mooseplums: "I have a friend who is a Cardiologist, and when I told him he said "Really?, what if you had a heart attack?"
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He should also have told you that 50% of all heart attack victims die on the spot anyway. Guys like us can only dream of dying on an adventure, rather than some sterile hospital bed.


I ain't staying home either mooseplums. Perhaps one day we will run into each other out there."


Last week at work they carted a guy out on a gurney to the ER. Certainly not the way I want to go.
 
JoeWilderness
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08/13/2012 11:34PM  
quote hobbydog: "
quote JoeWilderness: "
quote mooseplums: "I have a friend who is a Cardiologist, and when I told him he said "Really?, what if you had a heart attack?"
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He should also have told you that 50% of all heart attack victims die on the spot anyway. Guys like us can only dream of dying on an adventure, rather than some sterile hospital bed.



I ain't staying home either mooseplums. Perhaps one day we will run into each other out there."



Last week at work they carted a guy out on a gurney to the ER. Certainly not the way I want to go. "


I am with you on that, hobbydog.

Oh, and yes hobbydog we all must be crazy for going solo has never been a big deal for me. I can't explain why I am the way I am;yet, I have come to accept it. It sure is nice to have so many kindred spirits on the site.
 
Longpaddler
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08/14/2012 11:29AM  
Yes we are....but....not as crazy as those idiots who stand in line for 3 hours to take a 2 minute ride at Disney World.
 
08/14/2012 11:42AM  
quote JoeWilderness: "
quote mooseplums: "I have a friend who is a Cardiologist, and when I told him he said "Really?, what if you had a heart attack?"
"



He should also have told you that 50% of all heart attack victims die on the spot anyway. Guys like us can only dream of dying on an adventure, rather than some sterile hospital bed.


I ain't staying home either mooseplums. Perhaps one day we will run into each other out there."


Ain't No way I'm going out that way.......live like there is no tomorrow.
Perhaps we will Joe
 
Woods Walker
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08/20/2012 10:23AM  
quote BearBrown: "I dont think that most people are going to get why some of us enjoy getting out in the wild by ourselves. Self reflection, a deeper wilderness connection, being able to do what I want when I want, personal challenge, the quiet, are all reasons why I like spending time in the wild alone at times. Most people wont ever get out of their comfort zone and try spending time alone in the woods. I find it enjoyable and thats all that matters to me. I understand that others arent going to understand why. Ive been spending long periods of time in the woods alone since i started deer hunting when i was 12. For the better part of a week I was alone in the woods and only returned to camp in the evenings. I grew accustomed to it then, and still enjoy it now. "


Very much the same for me, grew up hunting with my father & brother, we would go out in the dark morning & return after dark in the evening (alone)... the only exception was if we were successful & made it back to camp early. Later after my brother moved away & father was getting too old, I did many solo hunting trips. So it was easy for me when I decided to build a cedar strip "solo" canoe & then start taking solo trips. I have only planned a few solo trips, as most times can find others to go with. But its nice to not rely on another person going.

And on the other discussion, I have told my kids, if I get to an age where I start having a hard time taking care of myself.... all I will need is help getting into my solo canoe, a kiss & a hug goodbye & I will die a happy man.
 
GraniteCliffs
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08/20/2012 08:04PM  
I am 61 years ago. Got a pacemaker 2 years ago only due to an extremely slow heart rate/blood pressure causing me to pass out fairly often.
So this year I see my cardiologist for my annual check. I mention that I am taking a solo trip. His immediate response?:
"God, am I envious. Have fun!"
And he meant it.
 
Gunflinter
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08/21/2012 07:04PM  
quote GraniteCliffs: "I am 61 years ago. Got a pacemaker 2 years ago only due to an extremely slow heart rate/blood pressure causing me to pass out fairly often.
So this year I see my cardiologist for my annual check. I mention that I am taking a solo trip. His immediate response?:
"God, am I envious. Have fun!"
And he meant it."

My kind of Doctor.
 
08/22/2012 12:53PM  
First solo October, friends just don't understand why i would do this and ask what if something happens i say least i'll die happy or yell like h---.
 
tkaser3210
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08/22/2012 02:57PM  
At 70, my first solo starts in 2 weeks - here's my philosophy:

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways shouting, "Holy s**t! What a ride!"
 
08/22/2012 03:36PM  
quote tkaser3210: "At 70, my first solo starts in 2 weeks - here's my philosophy:


Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways shouting, "Holy s**t! What a ride!""
So true.
 
08/22/2012 05:19PM  
quote tkaser3210: "At 70, my first solo starts in 2 weeks - here's my philosophy:


Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways shouting, "Holy s**t! What a ride!""

love that quote!

have a great solo tk!
 
SourisMan
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08/22/2012 05:30PM  
quote tkaser3210: "At 70, my first solo starts in 2 weeks - here's my philosophy:


Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways shouting, "Holy s**t! What a ride!""


Good for you! I've done 6 solos, and just turned 60. My only advice....take your time, don't push too hard, enjoy every minute.
 
08/22/2012 06:10PM  
quote tkaser3210: "At 70, my first solo starts in 2 weeks - here's my philosophy:


Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways shouting, "Holy s**t! What a ride!""


This has to be my new favorite quote.
 
08/22/2012 10:11PM  
If I have a heart attack on a solo, perfect. No better place to go:P
 
indagatoris
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03/27/2013 11:29AM  
I'm tired of that response as well. I seldom respond more than, " yup, you should try it."
I am sure to carefully select the person/persons on group trips. BW is definitely a great place to spend time with who you'd like!
I know people who hate people and groups yet get into the wilderness to get away from people, with people...
 
jeepgirl
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03/27/2013 05:21PM  
I'm doing my first solo trip this summer and most of my friends who know me, understand my need to do a solo. To those friends that don't, I just say "yes I'm crazy and I will be fine". After all at 47 I started jogging and joined a Dragon Boat Race team. Plus I'm going to learn how to rock crawl with our Jeep this summer. That people say is "crazy"
 
03/27/2013 08:38PM  
I started to go solo because I couldn't find anyone who wanted to go when I could. My wife was a bit perplexed at first as to why I wanted to go alone but she never said don't go. The folks at work said I was nuts and what would I do if something happened. I went solo anyway and have been going that way since. Doing what you want when you want is real freedom.
 
03/27/2013 09:37PM  
What's weird is that most other people don't realize is how many other people go on solos. I get the feeling that my extended family thinks I'm the only one who would do such a crazy thing.

 
03/27/2013 10:17PM  
I pretty much responded to my concerned friends by saying that there is already plenty of people in the BW... Believe me I'm not alone out there. On my long solo I rarely went a day without seeing people. I even had a few people take down a number and let my concerned friends know I was fine. I didn't have a SPOT on my solo. I was still upset that it didn't work on my whole WCPP trip. Funny how people like my family are just used to me doing stuff like that. Jeepgirl, you sound like quite a gal. Enjoy your solo and all your ambitions. I'm a lot happier since I got back in the saddle of persuing mine. I'm a little broker, but happier. :)
 
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03/28/2013 06:28AM  
Watch out. This solo stuff is addicting. I started at 50. One little week long solo in Algonquin, and it was a solo because my husband did not have time off.

Now I am retired, and I solo like others play golf. I got that "are you nuts" reaction at first. I kinda got tired of answering and at the end just said "yep I am a masochist". That usually shut prying questioners up.

Just finished one Florida solo and now home waiting for ice out for the next. Solos are a great way to explore where you are.

I wish I had died at the computer...NOT!
 
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03/28/2013 09:08PM  
quote tkaser3210: "At 70, my first solo starts in 2 weeks - here's my philosophy:


Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways shouting, "Holy s**t! What a ride!""


Truly a quote to die for! How was the trip, tk? Hope it was so good you have a new one planned for this spring!
 
03/29/2013 11:16PM  

Much of my reply here has been "cut and pasted" from an early post where I asked; "Does anyone really understand what I do when I go the BWCAW". It also applies to the question; "Going solo....really?

Several years ago, the question came to light when I was asked by one of my office co-workers what I was doing for my upcoming vacation. I just exclaimed, "I'm going on a canoe trip to Northeast Minnesota again". When asked who I was going with, I simply replied; "Just me!"

Surprisingly, my upcoming solo canoe trip plans evoked all types of comments and questions. Although they knew I made these types of trips before, albeit with family or friends, my planned solo trip involved much more scrutiny by my co-workers.

As I was driving home that day, I realized that they didn't fully understand what a canoe trip to the BWCAW, Quetico Provincial Park, or some other wilderness area was all about, or what was all involved for a successful canoe trip through "Canoe Country", especially a solo canoe trip.

From what I could ascertain by their feedback, they assumed that my solo trip was nothing more than pulling my vehicle into a campsite, pitching some large "Wenzel" type tent, and sitting around a fire ring with a cooler of beer, eating brats, and having my butt parked on some campsite picnic table all week by myself. They assumed that my canoe was nothing more than a platform for fishing and/or short forays out across whatever lake I happened to be "car camped" on.

The next day, I brought in several maps and pictures from previous trips to "educate" them that my upcoming trip was a little more involved than what they previously assumed. Their comments were now much more reserved than the day before. They now had a better understanding that my trip involved some ability, and it was far more physical than "lounging" around a campground.

Now the comments were; "Sounds like a lot of work!", "What if something happens!", "You call that a vacation?", "Aren't you afraid of bears, wolves, "Big Foot", etc." In some ways, I was surprised by how ignorant my co-workers where about canoe camping, portaging, and the entire nature of a "Quetico-Superior" canoe trip.

Due to the fact these were College educated professionals, I naturally assumed they knew more than they did about such things. Then again, I realized I was naive to assume that everyone knows about the BWCAW, Quetico, canoe-tripping, portaging, freeze dried food, Kevlar, backpacking stoves, lightweight tents, filtering water, and other related components involved with canoe-tripping.

To this day, many people question my motivation, and probably my sanity, as to why I want to venture into the wilderness and traverse lakes, rivers and portages' by myself. I say why not?

I don't think most people realize how "freeing" a solo trip is. Every decision is yours, nothing has to be debated or mutually agreed upon. I can paddle my a$$ off for 8 to 10 hours if I want, and there's no one that will complain about it.

I can also wake up at the crack of dawn, with no one to slow me down while attempting to get an early start "hitting the trail", or I can sleep in if I choose to. Alternately, I can roll out of my tent, and decide it's a great day for hanging out at my campsite. I can spend the day reading, fishing, skinny dipping, or whatever, and I won't be disappointing or offending anyone.

Solo tripping definitely has a different dynamic to it. It's more cerebral than a canoe trip with other individuals. It's an opportunity to learn something about yourself and your abilities. Unfortunately, solo tripping can also be misconstrued as a somewhat anti-social behavior as well.

Nonetheless, I say, don't knock it until you've tried it!

Hans Solo
 
03/30/2013 06:25AM  
quote HansSolo: "
Solo tripping definitely has a different dynamic to it. It's more cerebral than a canoe trip with other individuals. It's an opportunity to learn something about yourself and your abilities. Unfortunately, solo tripping can also be misconstrued as a somewhat anti-social behavior as well.
Hans Solo"


Right on the money here. I think many uneducated to the outdoors people also think it's very weird for someone to want to go off all alone on vacation. It's like the thought would NEVER cross the mind of a normal person.

This used to bother me in the past but the great thing about getting older is that we don't give a shit what other people think anymore. It's very freeing (almost like going solo) to not really give a shit and just do what we know makes us happy. I often feel like a square peg anyway so why not just roll with it?




 
03/30/2013 10:34AM  
I like to do solo trips. I started mostly because I didn't have anybody to trip with.

There are a number of reasons why solo trips hold our interest.

However, I often times miss the joy of sharing my "discoveries" with others.

Sighting an eagle, or a wolf. The slapping of the beavers tail. The evening I spent talking to the resident chipmunk at my campsite. The night spent amazed at the Northern Lights.

The little moments that make the tripping so special......I often miss sharing those moments and those memories with others.
 
DanCooke
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03/30/2013 10:47AM  
Some folks think I am nuts for my solo adventures. Sometimes I think there nuts for what they do for amusement. It all comes down to what we value.
 
03/30/2013 07:08PM  
I've always done things alone since I was a kid; if no one else wanted to do it or go, I'd go anyway. At 12 or 14, I'd be alone miles out in the woods with a gun or rod. I'm comfortable with it and often prefer it. It's not just BW trips - I've hiked, backpacked, taken solo golf or beach vacations, gone to movies alone. It's not that I'm a total lone wolf, but if everybody I ask says no, I'm still going.

But I don't think most people are that way. They don't like being alone, being away from people. They do most things for a social activity, I think, not just to do it. I'll bet most people wouldn't go to a movie alone. So they just don't understand why you would do that - they have no frame of reference. It's just something they've never done, probably never even considered.

I like the lack of distractions on a solo trip though, the change of pace, the opportunity for uninterrupted reflection. I find it all much more relaxing and refreshing - what a vacation really should be. I like a family beach vacation with the kids and grandkids, but it's not my vacation.
 
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03/31/2013 05:53PM  
quote boonie: "I've always done things alone since I was a kid; if no one else wanted to do it or go, I'd go anyway. At 12 or 14, I'd be alone miles out in the woods with a gun or rod. I'm comfortable with it and often prefer it. It's not just BW trips - I've hiked, backpacked, taken solo golf or beach vacations, gone to movies alone. It's not that I'm a total lone wolf, but if everybody I ask says no, I'm still going.


But I don't think most people are that way. They don't like being alone, being away from people. They do most things for a social activity, I think, not just to do it. I'll bet most people wouldn't go to a movie alone. So they just don't understand why you would do that - they have no frame of reference. It's just something they've never done, probably never even considered.


I like the lack of distractions on a solo trip though, the change of pace, the opportunity for uninterrupted reflection. I find it all much more relaxing and refreshing - what a vacation really should be. I like a family beach vacation with the kids and grandkids, but it's not my vacation. "


Same history, same attitude!! We must be the most well-adjusted people around, Boonie! And we even eat the same food--scary!
 
03/31/2013 11:44PM  
Trying to explain why I go solo into the wilderness requires consideration of the audience and is usually answered by the idea that vacation is doing something different than the daily grind. My daily grind is facilitating communication and problem solving; teaching others how to play nicely together. Going solo I do not have to play well with anyone but myself and mother nature and we tend to get along just fine. After a couple questions about bears and such they generally get it that I know what I am doing and often compliment me on my freedom and ability to continue doing this sort of thing at 66. Heck, now that I can semi-retire I am going to do more of it.
As a boy on the farm I played mostly alone and was fascinated by nature doing fallen log ecology studies and that sort of stuff. When a friend introduced me to the BWCA/Quetico and paddling I found my passion. The first solo sunk the hook.
 
DaBurgh
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04/15/2013 01:06AM  
Tell him you have baby asa and sl ntg in your first aid kit, just in csse!
 
DaBurgh
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04/15/2013 01:06AM  
Tell him you have baby asa and sl ntg in your first aid kit, just in csse!
 
luft
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04/15/2013 12:16PM  
quote DaBurgh: "Tell him you have baby asa and sl ntg in your first aid kit, just in csse!"


Haha! Took me a second to register that!

I always have the baby ASA (baby asprin) in my first aid kit as I take it daily, but haven't had to worry about the NTG SL (nitroglycerin tablets) as yet!
 
04/15/2013 12:32PM  

quote luft: "
quote DaBurgh: "Tell him you have baby asa and sl ntg in your first aid kit, just in csse!"



Haha! Took me a second to register that!


I always have the baby ASA (baby asprin) in my first aid kit as I take it daily, but haven't had to worry about the NTG SL (nitroglycerin tablets) as yet!"


Wow, Thanks "luft" for deciphering "DaBurgh's" quote, because I didn't get it. Thought it might have been a "typo".

Hans Solo
 
luft
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04/15/2013 09:09PM  
quote HansSolo: "
quote luft: "
quote DaBurgh: "Tell him you have baby asa and sl ntg in your first aid kit, just in csse!"


Haha! Took me a second to register that!

I always have the baby ASA (baby asprin) in my first aid kit as I take it daily, but haven't had to worry about the NTG SL (nitroglycerin tablets) as yet!"


Wow, Thanks "luft" for deciphering "DaBurgh's" quote, because I didn't get it. Thought it might have been a "typo".

Hans Solo"


Sometimes my nursing studies come in handy!
 
04/15/2013 09:30PM  
I have a solo planned for the end of August. 12 days, 100+ paddle miles, 16+ portage miles. My wife, family, and especially my co-workers can't understand how this constitutes a "Vacation". I tell them that I work in a hotel with 250+ other people on a daily basis, am in charge of 20+ people daily, and often in charge of feeding 1200+ people on any given day, work 6/12hr+ days and then I get to go home and do my Honey-Do list before bed time.

How wouldn't being by my self, going at my own pace, eating what I want/when I want, Wake up when I want to, be in nature, paddle some of the most beautiful waters, see amazing creatures, and of course....do any Man-ly bodily function when i want without apologizing. How couldn't anyone understand that is a perfect vacation.

:) :) :)
 
04/15/2013 10:12PM  
quote dprochef:

How wouldn't being by my self, going at my own pace, eating what I want/when I want, Wake up when I want to, be in nature, paddle some of the most beautiful waters, see amazing creatures, and of course....do any Man-ly bodily function when i want without apologizing. How couldn't anyone understand that is a perfect vacation.


:) :) :) "


Right on!

 
04/16/2013 06:12AM  
Most people find the idea of a wilderness canoe trip crazy. They find the idea of a solo wilderness canoe trip "crazy as hell". You need professional help, my friend, far beyond what I'm qualified to give. At least that's what George tells me.
 
04/16/2013 05:39PM  
I started doing solos in the 1980's before internet or even the BWJ. Not only did other people think I was crazy but I started to wonder about myself too.

Now, I have all you other crazies out there to back me up and I feel much better about myself. :)

 
04/17/2013 12:54AM  

quote TomT: "
quote dprochef:

How wouldn't being by my self, going at my own pace, eating what I want/when I want, Wake up when I want to, be in nature, paddle some of the most beautiful waters, see amazing creatures, and of course....do any Man-ly bodily function when i want without apologizing. How couldn't anyone understand that is a perfect vacation.

:) :) :) "


Right on!

"


You won't get an argument from anyone on this Forum!

Hans Solo
 
04/17/2013 01:02AM  

quote TomT:

Not only did other people think I was crazy but I started to wonder about myself too.

Now, I have all you other crazies out there to back me up and I feel much better about myself. :)

"


Damn! Another missed opportunity for an alternative screen name!

I could have been; "CrazySoloGuy" :-)

Hans Solo
 
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