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mmcreynolds81
 
12/30/2013 12:07PM
All,

I am planning my annual winter trip but due to our group size we need to find a larger site. We will be staying on Seagull, but then day hiking into JAP (Paulson) to fish. The last few years we stayed at site 6 (48.1242, -90.9202), but the tent pad barely fit our 4 person EXP. There is no way the 6 person EXP is going to work there.

Looking for suggestions for larger sites near the South side of the lake near the portage into JAP.

Thanks!!
 
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12/30/2013 01:12PM
The forest service would encourage you to setup camp on the ice which is flat. If you want to stay close to a thunderbox you could always set up near a campsite.
mmcreynolds81
 
12/30/2013 02:40PM
Yeah we thought about setting up on the lake, but with a heated tent should we worry about water in the tent? In the past we set up on land and by the end of the weekend there was nothing but grass below us.
12/30/2013 06:02PM
How many days do you plan to be camped there? I have stayed in the same place for a couple nights and definitely experienced some melt but with a tarp and some insulation your sleeping area shouldnt be threatened. Consider digging the stove area down and lining it with a separate tarp, hearth, logs stood up vertically to reflect heat away from the bed/benched areas. Definitely take care not to setup ion slush to begin with. Worst case scenario you could move your tent a few yards to fresh surface. Its an option if you cant find suitable land to camp on. The forest service would prefer you stay off established summer sites but in winter you can make your own sites too. A boggy bay may have the flat ground you need and dont be afraid to setup a ways back from the lake.
mmcreynolds81
 
12/30/2013 06:37PM
We are going to be in for 3 nights.
Doughboy12
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12/30/2013 06:45PM
There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with using a campsite.
Gives you many advantages not the least of which is a toilet so you don't have to pack your poo paper out.
12/30/2013 10:56PM
quote Doughboy12: "There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with using a campsite.
Gives you many advantages not the least of which is a toilet so you don't have to pack your poo paper out. "

Doughboy-To be clear I ABSOLUTELY did not say you can't use an established campsite. Reread my type. I did say the forest service would encourage you to consider other options. And after discussing with forest service rangers I think their reasoning is sound. You clearly do not-I have read through your many posts on the subject-and that's fine. That's how you interpret the guidelines. I simply offered another option for the original poster who asked where they should set up camp given that the campsite they have used in the past is not large enough to accommodate their tent. If you want to suggest a different established campsite that will accommodate their tent I am sure the OP would appreciate that kind of information. Otherwise you are beating a dead horse while not answering the question at hand.

Good day sir.
12/30/2013 11:18PM
mmcreynolds-Looking at the topography on voyageur maps and then at google satellite view it looks like there is a boggy area nearer the Seagull end of the portage to Paulson/JAP along the small creek connecting the two (W/SW of the portage trail). This would be an option for establishing your own campsite which would have the benefit of being very private and out of the wind. Its also unlikely that anyone would visit this area in the softwater season so any trace of your visit would go largely unnoticed. It looks like the portage approximates the boundaries of the Ham and Cavity Lake Fires which would likely mean plenty of firewood. Its an option to consider.

I have not been to that corner of Seagull of Paulson so I can't speak to established campsite fitness.
Doughboy12
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12/31/2013 12:18AM
quote tg: "quote Doughboy12: "There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with using a campsite.
Gives you many advantages not the least of which is a toilet so you don't have to pack your poo paper out. "

Doughboy-To be clear I ABSOLUTELY did not say you can't use an established campsite. Reread my type. I did say the forest service would encourage you to consider other options. And after discussing with forest service rangers I think their reasoning is sound. You clearly do not-I have read through your many posts on the subject-and that's fine. That's how you interpret the guidelines. I simply offered another option for the original poster who asked where they should set up camp given that the campsite they have used in the past is not large enough to accommodate their tent. If you want to suggest a different established campsite that will accommodate their tent I am sure the OP would appreciate that kind of information. Otherwise you are beating a dead horse while not answering the question at hand.


Good day sir."

You are hitting the same horse... Stick to addressing me when I address you plz.
12/31/2013 11:17AM
Doughboy-we both know you were questioning my advice (no one else here offered any)...I know when I'm being addressed, even if you choose to do it in a passive aggressive manner.

Why don't you take your issue up with the bw advisory committee?

Now perhaps we could get beyond our differences and try to help the OP.
Tatterhood
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12/31/2013 05:43PM
quote Doughboy12: "quote tg: "quote Doughboy12: "There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with using a campsite.
Gives you many advantages not the least of which is a toilet so you don't have to pack your poo paper out. "

Doughboy-To be clear I ABSOLUTELY did not say you can't use an established campsite. Reread my type. I did say the forest service would encourage you to consider other options. And after discussing with forest service rangers I think their reasoning is sound. You clearly do not-I have read through your many posts on the subject-and that's fine. That's how you interpret the guidelines. I simply offered another option for the original poster who asked where they should set up camp given that the campsite they have used in the past is not large enough to accommodate their tent. If you want to suggest a different established campsite that will accommodate their tent I am sure the OP would appreciate that kind of information. Otherwise you are beating a dead horse while not answering the question at hand.


Good day sir."


You are hitting the same horse... Stick to addressing me when I address you plz."



You really do post some antagonistic remarks that seem off point an attempt to use any original post as a forum for your soap boxing (with a bad attitude). It does get old. Have an opinion about using campsites in winter, Federal rules using the BWCA, etc.... just keep them to yourself. You tend to come off as picking a fight where none exists.



Tigers10
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01/02/2014 04:48PM
Back to campsites. I brought a group of students up to Seagul in March of 2010. I am sorry that I don't have campsite numbers to reference, the map I have on my desk does not list campsite numbers. However, we spread out along the 7 campsites on the southern side around Three Mile Island. All seemed good with the exception of the campsite on the southwest side of the island. It on the side of hill, with no cover. It was a terrible campsite.

I personally stayed on the campsite directly in front of the Paulson Lake portage on the island. Out of the seven I visited, I liked that one best because you had two options...up by the fire grate (in the wind) or the two tent pads down the hill (20 yards) that was totally out of the wind. We slept with two tents down the hill. This campsite had easier access to the main portion of the lake which had deeper water for lake trout fishing.

A close second was the island campsite 1 mile east of the Paulson Lake portage. It is tucked on south side of the little island and had a ton of firewoood on the island.

Great area with a stark reminder of what forest fires can do to a woods on the south side of lake. \

The other campsites on the south side of Three Mile island seemed fine for a group of five. All my student groups had two tents at each campsite. Might be a good option if you get a hard n, ne or nw wind while up there. While closer to the parking lot, it does leave a good 2 mile trek to the fishing grounds.

I hope that helps.
Doughboy12
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01/02/2014 05:11PM
quote tg: "Doughboy-we both know you were questioning my advice (no one else here offered any)...I know when I'm being addressed, even if you choose to do it in a passive aggressive manner.

Why don't you take your issue up with the bw advisory committee?

Now perhaps we could get beyond our differences and try to help the OP."

I didn't address you (I think you have a complex) I was giving MY thoughts to the OP just like you were, and then you go attacking me AGAIN.

Tatterhood,
Thanks for your OPINION but as far as I know this is the place for discussing them and I can post mine same as anyone else, thank you very little. If you don't like the things I say don't read them, but don't tell me what topics I can and cannot post about. I'll leave that up to the admins, which I'm sure I will here from shortly.
Tigers10
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01/02/2014 06:54PM
So anyways, back to campsites on Seagull…...
 
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