I have a Paris Expedition sled that is black that I have had for a good 8-10 years. All of them I have seen lately in hardware stores are orange. Does anyone know if black is still available? Its a small issue, but I am not fond of orange unless I am hunting pheasants or cheering for The Netherlands.

Orange toboggans catch more fish but red toboggans are faster. Not sure about the black ones.

quote walleye_hunter: "Orange toboggans catch more fish but red toboggans are faster. Not sure about the black ones.
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That is NOT a Paris sled...but that is a nice set of fish.
The orange is the 960, there is a light version the 860 that comes in blue.

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quote walleye_hunter: "Orange toboggans catch more fish but red toboggans are faster. Not sure about the black ones.
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That is NOT a Paris sled...but that is a nice set of fish.
The orange is the 960, there is a light version the 860 that comes in blue."

Still trying to see where he said that it WAS a Paris sled???

seen a black sled in Menards about a week ago,like the one above.

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quote Doughboy12: "

quote walleye_hunter: "Orange toboggans catch more fish but red toboggans are faster. Not sure about the black ones.
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That is NOT a Paris sled...but that is a nice set of fish.
The orange is the 960, there is a light version the 860 that comes in blue."

Still trying to see where he said that it WAS a Paris sled???"

I was letting the uninformed know...
You on the other hand know it all and can chose to NEVERMIND.
The thread is about PARIS sleds...FYI

Erapro Paris Sleds

860- Light Expedition is blue
960- Pro Expedition is Orange
1072-Sno Hauler is Black

EraPro Paris Sled

Great...now I have to upgrade, thanks.

quote Doughboy12:

"The thread is about PARIS sleds...FYI"

I would argue that the thread is about sled color-or at least that's what the OP titled it;) And I love that walleye_hunter dredged up the faster red version reference!

Wow, orange sleds clearly produce the most fish - that must be where my problem is. Don't think I like the idea of a red one as they probably just get pulled over by rangers more.

So it looks from the catalog that my style is no longer available in black. I am pretty sure mine is a 960 - definitely not a snowhauler - so would the appropriate term for it be "vintage" or "classic"?

Oh, and PINETREE, at which Menards did you see that black one? I may have a look...

quote Jaywalker: "Oh, and PINETREE, at which Menards did you see that black one? I may have a look..."

It is the same as the picture above. the other good sled.
It was Brainerd and in the $30-$35 range(they had about 5 in stock). That was in January.
Fleet use to carry them and about 5 years ago for around $20.00-$25.00 in orange and than also camo in the hunting section for about $50.00 in the same sled just different color. But they don't handle them anymore. Getting harder to find.

Been using this model for 20 years winter camping for some very long trips, and also to haul my deer out of the woods during deer season. I have had real good luck with them. I have a couple just for winter camping so they stay in better shape and a nice smooth bottom. They have good width and length with a nice hard bottom. First started with a smaller sled and it would tip over all the time.
A perfect sled would be maybe a foot longer,but nothings perfect.

Ace Hardware has that line as well... I bought the "camo" one which is basically a tan with black squirted in the mold here and there. It also comes with some bungies and tow rope, for the increased cost. It is bigger than the Paris 960 and I liked it a LOT.
First trip out it was sub-zero and I ran into a stump on a slight downhill fully loaded, the sled not me, and the front shattered. Needless to say I took it back and got the Paris one from the hardware store out east.
I wish the one pictured wouldn't have done that because I did like the design much better. I could have got a bad one but wasn't willing to take the risk of going into the BWCA in the middle of winter with that in the back of my mind.
There are some True Value stores that will order the Paris for in store pick up and no shipping charges...even for just one.
Link

quote Doughboy12: "Ace Hardware has that line as well... I bought the "camo" one which is basically a tan with black squirted in the mold here and there. It also comes with some bungies and tow rope, for the increased cost. It is bigger than the Paris 960 and I liked it a LOT.
First trip out it was sub-zero and I ran into a stump on a slight downhill fully loaded, the sled not me, and the front shattered. Needless to say I took it back and got the Paris one from the hardware store out east.
I wish the one pictured wouldn't have done that because I did like the design much better. I could have got a bad one but wasn't willing to take the risk of going into the BWCA in the middle of winter with that in the back of my mind.
There are some True Value stores that will order the Paris for in store pick up and no shipping charges...even for just one.
Link "

Some of mine I have had for a few years and have ran them thru many harsh tests with zero breakage. My nephew has a newer one and I see he cracked the front end,could they have changed the material a little?
The new one I bought it looks the same as the older ones.

quote Arceneaux: "I've got the same sleds PINETREE is referencing, one in orange and one in black - I did see some at a couple of the metro area Menards stores not too long ago, would imagine they would be on clearance this time of the year. I've had mine for several years and they have stood up to some beatings (hauling deer out of the woods is pretty tough on a sled).


I've taken both colors on winter camping trips and personally I like the black just because of the fact that it absorbs more of the suns energy during the day - i.e. I can put a water container or any other frozen item on it to thaw out, etc. That's really the only benefit I could think of in terms of color.


walleye hunter - awesome looking couple of limits of splake you got there!!


Doughboy - perhaps ya need to dial 'er back a notch bud, no need to jump on anyone for just a comment"

Like you said,we really tried to beat them up deer hunting,over logs,rocks etc.,overall they are amazing.

Check at K Mart for these too. I got mine a couple of years ago and they had them in Orange and Black. They were not a Paris sled but one similar to it. Mine has held up very well over the years used as a pulk with the poles to pull it.

Check at K Mart for these too. I got mine a couple of years ago and they had them in Orange and Black. They were not a Paris sled but one similar to it. Mine has held up very well over the years used as a pulk with the poles to pull it.

I have 2 of the expedition sleds pictured above, one in orange and one in bright green. My son tried to use the orange one as a normal sled and it broke going over a small bump on the hill. I might have to pick up one of the black ones and give that one a try.

same sled different color


Camo sled the same as the orange and green one? Hoping it would be a little more durable?

You do have to be careful with the orange variety. They glide so nice and are the perfect size, however the moment they get hit hard in cold to super cold they crack right through. Is this what happened to you Pinetree?

quote Sobi: "You do have to be careful with the orange variety. They glide so nice and are the perfect size, however the moment they get hit hard in cold to super cold they crack right through. Is this what happened to you Pinetree?"

I have an orange sled and have not seen the problem you mention. It has seen -20 degrees with no problems. I don't baby the sled so maybe it's a matter of the manufacturing quality of the sled.

The old ones you could beat to a pulp and they would not crack. I had one new one,about all I did was look at it and it cracked. My nephew went thru about 3-4 of them in short order. They had to change the plastic composite. Heard the same from other forum sites.

I wonder what year that was. My original is only 3 years old and it has held up well, but it hasn't taken blows like the the other 4 we bought for the kids. Couple of jumps and slamming into things and that was all she wrote.

I like the look of this multi color job. Anyone have one? In the description the line about diamond polishing is missing as compared to the orange. I fear it will pull much harder??

anouther option?

I have the orange one in the photo. I am not sure of the plastic composite in mine, but I think that it has fish repelent mixed in.

Mike

quote Arceneaux: "Thanks for that link Pinetree - it's tough to find quality sleds that won't break the bank. Previously, I had no problems with my orange emsco sled, but last weekend I cracked the front lip and put a big crack right in the bottom while out trout fishing...it sure is easier when you hop on the sled and ride down the big hills, just didn't plan on finding a rock in the middle of the trail on the way down :)"

I don't think they are cheap tho and never have seen one.

quote Pinetree: "


same sled different color



Camo sled the same as the orange and green one? Hoping it would be a little more durable?"

I was pretty happy with this sled (Emsco Expedition, Camo )on my 5 day trip last week as far as durability and pack ability. I just think that if you’re going to do two or more trips a year it would be better to invest in a Black river type sled. On my way in it got a little gritty on the bottom and pulled just a little tougher due to the frost probably. 66 inches just doesn’t seem to be enough for a 5 day trip . I rigged mine up with two 7 ft PVC poles with the Clam pulling Harness that I recieved from TG here. I really liked that set up. I’ve never had a different type of sled but this one does seem pretty durable. It’s got a bit of flex in it even when it’s pretty cold which seems to help the durability. I know I could have done a better job of packing but this was my fist trip and I didn’t really know what I was doing.