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11/05/2014 12:54PM
Want to construct a couple portage packs, another board member posted patterns & instructions earlier this year. Also want to make a slipcover for my sleeping pad now that I'm using a quilt instead of a sleeping bag. Beyond that.... time will tell.
When a man is part of his canoe, he is part of all that canoes have ever known. - Sigurd F. Olson, "The Singing Wilderness"
11/06/2014 10:42AM
I am finishing the reflector stove that has been sitting on the back burner (literally)!
Next I want to build two of those tree tables that I've seen around here.
I would LOVE to attempt that portage pack project that Mirth spoke of, but I have never sewed in my life. It is something that I've wanted to learn how to do, but it may be the wrong project to start with?!
Next I want to build two of those tree tables that I've seen around here.
I would LOVE to attempt that portage pack project that Mirth spoke of, but I have never sewed in my life. It is something that I've wanted to learn how to do, but it may be the wrong project to start with?!
11/06/2014 11:20AM
Going to make version 2.0 of my solo canoe yoke. I am basing it off this design. Solo canoe Yoke Plans I bought the plans over a year ago and made my first version. Turned out well but I didn't compensate for the angle of my sloped seat. So, I'll make a new version and also try out some Bourquin pads on there instead.
"It is more important to live for the possibilities that lie ahead than to die in despair over what has been lost." -Barry Lopez
11/06/2014 12:46PM
quote Saberboys: "I am finishing the reflector stove that has been sitting on the back burner (literally)!
Next I want to build two of those tree tables that I've seen around here.
I would LOVE to attempt that portage pack project that Mirth spoke of, but I have never sewed in my life. It is something that I've wanted to learn how to do, but it may be the wrong project to start with?!"
Sewing is my specialty. When you get ready to give it a try - send me an e-mail. I "alter" packs all the time and have a good machine for sewing heavy fabric. SR Harris Co. in Brooklyn Park/Center is a good source for heavy cordura. Oh, I am located in the southwest suburbs, with me favorite sewing friend living in Chaska. So we are close to you. The 2 of us team up on tricky big projects. I would be available to help.
11/06/2014 01:34PM
I would LOVE to attempt that portage pack project that Mirth spoke of, but I have never sewed in my life. It is something that I've wanted to learn how to do, but it may be the wrong project to start with?!"
The pack instructions mentioned are likely the ones I posted earlier this year. They are super easy, just straight stitches and bar tacks. A friend who had never sewn before made one with no problems. I helped him changing stitches on the machine for the first few then he picked it up and ran.
My projects for the winter are a hammock underquilt and a set of tripod hammock stands so I can hang at the state parks.
"Go outside and play" -- mom
11/07/2014 12:33PM
Ok, thanks for the directions - now, any pictures?
I was thinking of adapting the pattern for 30 L blue barrels. I have altered (reshaped and taken in) standard #3 envelop packs from Kondos in the past but I hate to use those if making them from scratch works well.
I took this pack in and squared off the bottom - then shaped the lid sort of like a back pack lid.
Oh, that is my son carrying it - not me.
I was thinking of adapting the pattern for 30 L blue barrels. I have altered (reshaped and taken in) standard #3 envelop packs from Kondos in the past but I hate to use those if making them from scratch works well.
I took this pack in and squared off the bottom - then shaped the lid sort of like a back pack lid.
Oh, that is my son carrying it - not me.
11/07/2014 01:25PM
I'm at the point where I could make my own pack. The problem is that I don't need a pack. I really don't have my heart into it if I don't have any immediate plans to use what I make. The packs that I do have serve me well and there isn't much that I would change about them anyway.
Right now my head is centered on making yet another winter shelter. I go in stages, and for now, it's shelters. I'm considering a pyramid style shelter, set up to handle a small wood stove. My reasons are... They only need one pole, and that one pole could be found in the woods if need be. They are easy to make. They are easy to set up. They shed wind, rain and snow well.
The down sides of such shelters are... They use a lot of material considering the cubic feet of living space that you get. The entry door is too exposed to the weather. They are heavier than most.
For a while Snowtrekker sold the lightest weight treated canvas around, but because they once sold more than they should have, and ended up running short themselves, they quit selling just the fabric. No one else handles (at least that I can find) that fabric and I'd sure like to use that, opposed to the heavier stuff that you always find. So now I look at either making one from the heavier fabric, or not at all. I want to make the shelter tall enough to stand next to the pole, and big enough for two, plus the wood stove.
I put a furnace in my wood shop to handle the cooler weather of the border seasons and may just move my industrial machine out there. The problem with that is that once it's out of the laundry room, my wife will never let me bring it back into the house. Having the machine in the shop would make it much nicer with a larger working area.
I may just have to beg Snowtrekker again for some fabric. Having that here would spur me into getting started on the shelter and quit yapping about it!
Right now my head is centered on making yet another winter shelter. I go in stages, and for now, it's shelters. I'm considering a pyramid style shelter, set up to handle a small wood stove. My reasons are... They only need one pole, and that one pole could be found in the woods if need be. They are easy to make. They are easy to set up. They shed wind, rain and snow well.
The down sides of such shelters are... They use a lot of material considering the cubic feet of living space that you get. The entry door is too exposed to the weather. They are heavier than most.
For a while Snowtrekker sold the lightest weight treated canvas around, but because they once sold more than they should have, and ended up running short themselves, they quit selling just the fabric. No one else handles (at least that I can find) that fabric and I'd sure like to use that, opposed to the heavier stuff that you always find. So now I look at either making one from the heavier fabric, or not at all. I want to make the shelter tall enough to stand next to the pole, and big enough for two, plus the wood stove.
I put a furnace in my wood shop to handle the cooler weather of the border seasons and may just move my industrial machine out there. The problem with that is that once it's out of the laundry room, my wife will never let me bring it back into the house. Having the machine in the shop would make it much nicer with a larger working area.
I may just have to beg Snowtrekker again for some fabric. Having that here would spur me into getting started on the shelter and quit yapping about it!
“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski
11/07/2014 02:02PM
Portagekeeper,
Over at Wintertrekking.com, they found this fabric, Canvas which they claim is so similar to the Snowtrekker canvas. Maybe it could work for you. Her is the thread where they talk about it: Wintertrekking.com
"It is more important to live for the possibilities that lie ahead than to die in despair over what has been lost." -Barry Lopez
11/07/2014 03:50PM
quote Minnesotian: "
Portagekeeper,
Over at Wintertrekking.com, they found this fabric, Canvas which they claim is so similar to the Snowtrekker canvas. Maybe it could work for you. Her is the thread where they talk about it: Wintertrekking.com "
Thanks, but it appears that this is untreated and I think that I already have some of this. Unless I am wrong, isn't the Snowtrekker canvas treated for rot and fire? I just looked on their website and now cannot find anything saying so!? If they are using untreated, I'd feel safer using fabric in the link that you posted. Either way, thanks for posting this.
“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski
11/07/2014 10:13PM
Ya, Duane does treat it for water repellency and fire resistance. Found that here is an interview he did: Mushing.com
"DL: We use 100% cotton fabric, similar to a cotton duck, and the uniqueness of it over regular canvas is that we use 6.5oz, with a higher thread count and a tighter weave vs. the 10oz canvas of the vast majority of wall tents. The tighter weave not only sheds water and wind well, but still stays breathable. that’s the big advantage of cotton canvas, it allows for the transfer of moisture through the fabric. We also treat our tents with Sunforger water repellency. It is a dry treatment that makes the fabric very water repellent, yet it doesn’t feel waxy. Our fabric is also treated to CPAI 84 flame retardant standards, which is the most stringent. Using these fabrics and treating them the way we do makes our tents light, strong, breathable, and water repellent. You don’t need a rain fly with our tents which saves weight also. "
Also, it appears Sunforger has mildew resistance in it as well. I know of products to use for fire repellency, but I can't seem to find anyway for the DIYer to apply a Sunforger finish.
"It is more important to live for the possibilities that lie ahead than to die in despair over what has been lost." -Barry Lopez
11/08/2014 08:30AM
I plan on making a hot tent, My old BWCA tent {Kelty Switchback} fabric was shredded by a barbed wire fence. So , the frame was left unscathed and is a heavy built 6x10 (with 2 vestibules) modified A frame. I plan on using one end vestibule for the stove and the other as a "mud room" with the door on that end. I'm presently shopping for the right type of canvas and sewing techniques. I'm narrowing my material choice to the 7 oz level and have been looking at the above sites (thanks). I also found a great tutorial website for sewing heavy materials www.sailrite.com. sailrite
11/09/2014 11:03AM
One small thing that I may make is a silnylon sack that is the same size as the compression sack that I keep my clothes in. I'd keep it in my clothes bag, just for dirty clothes. It wouldn't take any extra space and would fill with dirty clothes as I used up clean clothes. Until now I have used a plastic shopping bag for this but their size is limited.
“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski
11/11/2014 11:17AM
quote Grandma L: "quote Saberboys: "I am finishing the reflector stove that has been sitting on the back burner (literally)!
Next I want to build two of those tree tables that I've seen around here.
I would LOVE to attempt that portage pack project that Mirth spoke of, but I have never sewed in my life. It is something that I've wanted to learn how to do, but it may be the wrong project to start with?!"
Sewing is my specialty. When you get ready to give it a try - send me an e-mail. I "alter" packs all the time and have a good machine for sewing heavy fabric. SR Harris Co. in Brooklyn Park/Center is a good source for heavy cordura. Oh, I am located in the southwest suburbs, with me favorite sewing friend living in Chaska. So we are close to you. The 2 of us team up on tricky big projects. I would be available to help. "
I may have to take you up on that Gandma L! Thank you for offering!!
01/12/2015 02:51PM
I'm in the middle of making my first "quality" hammock from nylon ripstop material, I made 3 other hammocks from poly crinkle-tafeta tablecloths for the gf and her 2 kids for Christmas, and I am expecting a pouch, probably a box, with nearly 32 yards of specialty fabrics (HyperD and polysil) to make 2 more hammocks, 2 rain tarps, and a bunch of drawstring bags or whatever else I can come up with.
01/14/2015 02:22PM
Over the holiday week I made new pot cozies for all of my cooksets except my one large group nesting pot set. Also made a small case for my little wood burning stove that collapses down into 5 pieces.
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
01/14/2015 03:48PM
quote OldFingers57: "Over the holiday week I made new pot cozies for all of my cooksets except my one large group nesting pot set. Also made a small case for my little wood burning stove that collapses down into 5 pieces. "
Pictures - I would love to see your work!
01/16/2015 01:34PM
quote Grandma L: "quote OldFingers57: "Over the holiday week I made new pot cozies for all of my cooksets except my one large group nesting pot set. Also made a small case for my little wood burning stove that collapses down into 5 pieces. "
Pictures - I would love to see your work!"
Here are the photos of my cozies for my two MSR Blacklite pots and for my GSI Dualist pot.
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
01/17/2015 08:51AM
I just took an old aluminum tent pole, drilled small holes in the connecting area, held it together with hitch pins. I also made a double hook for the end. You can use it to get ropes around limbs you can not reach. Take the hook off and put a tennis ball on it and you have a great tarp center pole if you need one.
Best Fishes !
01/18/2015 12:42PM
quote Grandma L: "OldFingers57,
Those are great - very interesting. I have sewn several cozys using denim inside, Thinsulite insulation and rip stop outer with a roll and click closure. Now I will have to post pics. "
The pot coozies are made out of a car sun shade that I had found. Others use Reflectix to make them and FBC coozies
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
01/23/2015 01:17PM
I got a call a few minutes ago that my sewing machine was fixed (only cost $20) so after I pick it up. I am ready to start on the pack to hold my 3 bear vaults very snug stacked together.
The worst part of the trip last year was having them in a pack they rattled around in so that they hung uncomfortably on our backs digging in and shifting around.
The worst part of the trip last year was having them in a pack they rattled around in so that they hung uncomfortably on our backs digging in and shifting around.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein
01/23/2015 03:04PM
A reflector oven. So far, it is just a cardboard pattern/prototype as I fiddle with dimensions and fit. I have yet to decide on which rack solution to go with and I'm still looking for a sheet metal source. ~16 gauge aluminum.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Yogi Berra
01/23/2015 10:11PM
quote goaljohnbill: "I got a call a few minutes ago that my sewing machine was fixed (only cost $20) so after I pick it up. I am ready to start on the pack to hold my 3 bear vaults very snug stacked together.
The worst part of the trip last year was having them in a pack they rattled around in so that they hung uncomfortably on our backs digging in and shifting around."
I am waiting for the pictures. I just finished altering a couple of Kondos #3 packs to fit our 30L barrels with a foam around them. Took them in and shaped the bottom and lid. Easier than making new.
01/24/2015 07:44AM
quote schweady: "A reflector oven. So far, it is just a cardboard pattern/prototype as I fiddle with dimensions and fit. I have yet to decide on which rack solution to go with and I'm still looking for a sheet metal source. ~16 gauge aluminum.
"
Are you looking at a solid piece of aluminum or a wire rack for the shelf?
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
01/24/2015 08:53AM
quote OldFingers57: "Are you looking at a solid piece of aluminum or a wire rack for the shelf? "
Either individual rods slid through the sides or a wire rack supported by a rail riveted to the sides. The second option has fewer small parts but also may make it less compact for packing. I know many folks use ovens with a solid shelf for the food support, but I feel like it inhibits some important heat flow. ??
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Yogi Berra
01/24/2015 11:55AM
quote schweady: "quote OldFingers57: "Are you looking at a solid piece of aluminum or a wire rack for the shelf? "
Either individual rods slid through the sides or a wire rack supported by a rail riveted to the sides. The second option has fewer small parts but also may make it less compact for packing. I know many folks use ovens with a solid shelf for the food support, but I feel like it inhibits some important heat flow. ??
"
I've got one with a wire rack and one with a solid metal shelf and have found no difference in cooking in them.
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
01/25/2015 02:59PM
Back to the pot cozy's, I had a gal who's handy with needle and thread make these for me. I told her I needed something to keep food warm in the pot while other things were cooking and away she went. She made them like the handled carriers people use for transporting hot food, with hot pad material for the insulation and some extra material she had on hand for the outside. Uses four flaps to cover the top with Velcro sewn to the outer two to seal it up.
01/25/2015 08:23PM
quote Grandma L: "Wow, sounds like you have jumped in with both feet with that much fabric. Good luck - remember to post pictures!"
Finished that hammock and already working on another with the HyperD. Made this one with red nylon and grey calendered polyester ripstop materials. Greg's Hammock
01/27/2015 12:38PM
Chair Pack - from altered Kondos #3 - Bottom added and squared off. Holds 4-6 "bag" chairs with a Thermorest-Ridgerest foam in the back to soften it for portages..
I inherited several packs from an old friend who has had to stop canoe tripping so I have the luxury of being able to use them for new projects.
I inherited several packs from an old friend who has had to stop canoe tripping so I have the luxury of being able to use them for new projects.
01/27/2015 12:49PM
Well, back to the sewing machine - I still have 2 packs, a tarp to make and several repairs to make on equipment before spring.
Now that my new knee is doing well, I can easily go up and down the stair to the sewing room - - so - time to get going on projects.
Now that my new knee is doing well, I can easily go up and down the stair to the sewing room - - so - time to get going on projects.
01/27/2015 06:59PM
quote Grandma L: "Chair Pack - from altered Kondos #3 - Bottom added and squared off. Holds 4-6 bag chairs with a Thermorest-Ridgerest foam in the back to soften it for portages.."
Very nice. It's solutions like this that allows bringing "just a few more" of the luxuries of a base camp. Our men's group have been carrying our bag chairs in a #3 Duluth Pack for the past few years but it really needs to be just slightly taller. We make it work by strapping the chairs together first, putting them (vertically) into the pack, and then criss-crossing the pack straps to keep the bundle tight. Getting them stowed low enough into the canoes is the biggest challenge, but it sure beats carrying bundles of them like a suitcase, or slung like a rifle.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Yogi Berra
01/30/2015 09:03PM
I am planning on adding loops with reinforcements to the center ends of my sil-nylon tarp. I don't have a sewing machine, so I will be doing a little hand stitching.
"Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit."
01/30/2015 09:22PM
quote Scout64: "I am planning on adding loops with reinforcements to the center ends of my sil-nylon tarp. I don't have a sewing machine, so I will be doing a little hand stitching. "
If you are in the metro - I might be able to help. Send me and e-mail if you are interested.
02/04/2015 09:33PM
quote Scout64: "I may take you up on that. From the pictures above, you have wicked skills!"
Send me and e-mail - I am located in the west metro. I am working on a friend's Marmot Limelight tomorrow to add inside loops to hang small things and adding tie-down loops to the rain fly.
Well, that project is done - Next?
02/16/2015 10:05PM
After an unnamed puppy chewed a few spots in my favourite old wool pants I was reluctant to toss them and hoped to find some better use. Came up with a concept depicted below. Bear in mind I am not quick to put clothing on my dog, but am eager to take him with me to the BWCA for lake trout in March.
02/17/2015 01:34PM
Great job and great way to recycle! I hope he doesn't grow out of it too soon. He's a great model. I like how he's pretending to sniff the ground for the sake of the shot ;-)
“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski
02/17/2015 01:54PM
Lots of good projects here! Glad to see more people making and modifying things! It sure gives you a good feeling.
I grew up when you had to do these things, or go without until you could afford to buy or replace something. I think I've learned something from every member of my family, along with shop teachers and other craft people that I have worked with along the way. I only hope that I can pass something along to my grand kids before more good info gets lost in generations.
I grew up when you had to do these things, or go without until you could afford to buy or replace something. I think I've learned something from every member of my family, along with shop teachers and other craft people that I have worked with along the way. I only hope that I can pass something along to my grand kids before more good info gets lost in generations.
“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski
02/17/2015 02:50PM
Was going through some stuff a week or so ago and came across the "gear loft" from several tents. I never use them so they get tossed in a tote.
Decided to fold one in half lengthwise, sew the ends and a couple of stripes up the middle, remove one of the hooks from each end and ...Viola an ultralight hammock ridgeline organizer.
Decided to fold one in half lengthwise, sew the ends and a couple of stripes up the middle, remove one of the hooks from each end and ...Viola an ultralight hammock ridgeline organizer.
"Go outside and play" -- mom
02/17/2015 02:57PM
Also did some salvage work last weekend. I have a couple of tents that have been retired from my Scout Troop. And a bunch of the kids old school backpacks.
Salvaged some nylon from the tents and some zippers from the packs to make small zippered pouches for things like TP, fire starting kit, personal smellables etc.
Salvaged some nylon from the tents and some zippers from the packs to make small zippered pouches for things like TP, fire starting kit, personal smellables etc.
"Go outside and play" -- mom
03/02/2015 10:25AM
quote Grandma L: "I don't know about the commercial machines - you should ask Dan Cooke.
I use an Old Viking 6440. It has low and high gear and sews about anything - even leather.
"
I'm not looking, just thought if someone is looking.
KevinL
03/07/2015 12:05AM
quote PortageKeeper: "Just finished a second ti stove. This one is larger for a longer burn time 10X10X16. I need to get my fabric ordered for my pyramid tent so I can make that and actually use my stoves!
"
Your Ti stoves are amazing. Curious what you plans are for a pyramid tent. I've been thinking of trying to make a new tent primarily for tripping.
04/02/2015 04:14PM
quote Jaywalker: "quote PortageKeeper: "Just finished a second ti stove. This one is larger for a longer burn time 10X10X16. I need to get my fabric ordered for my pyramid tent so I can make that and actually use my stoves!
"
Your Ti stoves are amazing. Curious what you plans are for a pyramid tent. I've been thinking of trying to make a new tent primarily for tripping. "
The pyramid tent is pretty straight forward. Just a pyramid (1.9 oz sil-nylon) with a single pole. Finished size will be 8.5'x9.5'x 8' tall. 6' zipper in the center of one panel, pull-outs on three sides, 12" skirts that lay inside and a stove jack. Sleeps one on each side of the stove. It will have a separate 'flying diamond' tarp/awning to keep rain out when the door is open.
“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski
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