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marsonite
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07/09/2015 06:17PM  
I finally bit the bullet and figured out how to get free online maps onto my Garmin etrex 20. I was able to take Caltopo maps, overlay them onto Google Earth, and then save them onto my GPS. I tried a small area, and it worked! I'm looking for simple maps on my GPS that give me lake outlines, so to pull off the overlay, I just matched up the lakeshores.

But when I tried to do a large area, it was very difficult to get the overlay map to "match" Google Earth.

So I'm wondering if any of you have more experience than I have any tricks; like settings you can use to get them to match? Or was my overlay map just too big? (I was trying to get most of the southern half of Wabikimi.

Thanks,

Brian

 
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07/09/2015 09:19PM  
Overlay alignment can be tough. Angles and permanent landmarks, roads work best. Patience, trial and error, are the word.

butthead
 
schweady
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07/09/2015 10:38PM  
Large overlays can also mean dealing with file sizes too large for your gps unit to handle. Try multiple smaller files.
 
07/10/2015 08:38AM  
Screenshot of 62st, area west of Gunflint, Seagull, displaing Garmin Topo.
Same area but with overlay from Fisher Map.
Zoomed.
Zoomed again.

butthead
 
marsonite
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07/10/2015 12:49PM  
Thanks. Well I'll try again. I'm going to Wabikimi so it isn't an area with roads. Maybe I'll look at the railroad tracks.

Of course Google Earth/maps are just incredible products. But I've always found it irritating how "loosy goosy" they are. Wish they had a button that would just force the view to be from 90 degrees above the center, North up.
 
07/10/2015 04:42PM  
Here ya go, View, reset, Tilt and Compass. You need to repeat every time you move the map.
Mexican Hat Lake WCPP.

butthead
 
marsonite
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07/12/2015 06:25PM  
quote butthead: "Here ya go, View, reset, Tilt and Compass. You need to repeat every time you move the map.
Mexican Hat Lake WCPP.


butthead"


Nice. Thanks.
 
04/10/2016 08:49PM  
Question from a beginner: If you get points, tracks, routes, and can just "show on map" with a topo map, what advantage is there to an overlay on google earth?
 
schweady
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04/11/2016 09:14AM  
quote 3Ball: "Question from a beginner: If you get points, tracks, routes, and can just "show on map" with a topo map, what advantage is there to an overlay on google earth?"

I will overlay jpgs saved from MN State Park map pdfs and Superior Hiking Trail pdfs from their websites and install them on my 62st. Great for showing position in relation to trails and points of interest right on the screen and leave paper map and compass in my pocket more often.

I have maps of recent major BWCAW wildfires which are occasionally interesting to overlay on top of our anticipated travel area.

They may be turned on and off as needed if they cover some important details on the base map.
 
04/11/2016 11:03AM  
So, the advantage is that there is some information that isn't a route, track or waypoint? That makes some sense.

I have tried map overlays in google earth but haven't figured out how to save them as maps and load them to basecamp as maps. I have figured out how to save tracks, waypoints etc. from google earth, and open tracks etc. in basecamp (such as the SHT) but not maps.

Has Google changed? It seems that the videos show map saving in a way that does not appear possible when I go to Google Earth.
 
schweady
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04/11/2016 03:18PM  
Sure, like this page, which is probably the best tutorial on creating and saving these images. Campus buildings, park trails and features, historical maps... all sort of interesting things to have on an overlay image.

Click the page's middle tab for the best step-by-step instructions I have found for saving these kmz files. You can save them directly to your device or save them to your computer and copy them to your device's maps folder later: /Garmin/CustomMaps/
 
04/11/2016 03:39PM  
Perfect. Thanks!
 
04/11/2016 03:40PM  
One more question (OK it turned into more than one): Can I get the maps from my device to permanently load into basecamp rather than to have to connect the GPSr each time? Can Basecamp open more than 1 map at a time?
 
schweady
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04/11/2016 06:49PM  
See where your connected device shows up in the list in the left column in BaseCamp? Click on it and drag the map name to My Collection. Better yet, make a new list and drag it there.
 
BnD
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04/11/2016 07:44PM  
I just barged in here but, VERY NICE Schweady. Thanks!
 
04/11/2016 08:33PM  
Wow, I made a lot of progress without any pain. Thanks very much!!
 
04/12/2016 01:27PM  
Sorry to ask so many questions ... I am getting the overlay done, and into basecamp, but I then can't send to the device (Garmin oregon 650T) because it "exceeds maximum resolution."

I think that the image is 1.5 megapixels and the maximum allowable is 1.

Is there any way to make an adjustment to the image before overlay, after overlay, or before sending to GPSr?
 
04/12/2016 02:21PM  
Quite sure you can section the map into separate chunks and transfer both. Size limit may apply to single transfer, but you should be able to store and chose from a selection stored on the unit internal and or external memory.
I'd be more specific but and rebuilding my hard-drive storage and BaseCamp has no maps installed currently.

butthead
 
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