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02/22/2022 09:40PM |
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04/29/2023 08:46AM |
cburton103: "Argo: "For reference, there's a longish island on Quetico Lake about halfway up the leg towards Kasakokwog that was burned to a crisp in 2002. It had three sites on it. The canopy is currently about half the height of the neighbouring territory twenty years later.
Here is a pic from 2022:
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I'm curious - are any of the three campsites usable on it after twenty years of regrowth? No widowmakers, sufficient room to set up a tent and tarp, etc."
That's a good question. Unfortunately I didn't check them out as the main site is on the east end and we did a short turn back to our site back west. We were just out fishing. I'm gonna say that I doubt the sites have been reestablished but I may have an opportunity to check it out this summer. Although there are three sites listed on the island, only one was rated above one star
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02/22/2022 10:30PM |
TomT: "With 2021 fires in the middle and southern section the park won’t be as I knew it. The message jars on several lakes are likely gone. The big island 5 star on McIntyre likely burned away. I’ve stayed there 3 times in different decades. Burt Lake - was the island spared?? Delehey and Veron burnt to a crisp. Ted Lake? Crap, I doubt there’s a tree standing on any shore of that beautiful lake. Sorry to be a downer, it’s just tough. "
After looking at the map of the burn areas I was very encouraged. 2 of my favorite island sites seemed to have been spared. I'm talking McIntyre and Burt Lakes. Unfortunately it looks like Veron, Delahey and the Death March portage seem pretty unusable now. I also had Pierna on my bucket list for a bushwhack destination. That looks to be out of the question now. Even the islands there got cooked. Between Burt and Sark must have really been an impressive fire.
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04/29/2023 05:48PM |
cburton103: "Gotcha. I never consider 1-2 star sites for more than lunch stops anyways. And with the relative abundance of campsites in Quetico compared to the number of paddlers, there’s probably not much need to re-establish sites in areas where many sites weren’t burned over."
When I'm solo I try to look for 1 and 2 star sites. Usually the rating is for poor tent pads or only one good one. Being in a hammock is more versatile in that area. For me a good landing is most important.
There's some real jewels out there rated 2 stars if you are solo with a hammock. They don't usually have the beaten down look to them either. I really prefer sites with grass still in them.
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04/30/2023 09:22AM |
TomT: "
When I'm solo I try to look for 1 and 2 star sites. Usually the rating is for poor tent pads or only one good one. Being in a hammock is more versatile in that area. For me a good landing is most important.
There's some real jewels out there rated 2 stars if you are solo with a hammock. They don't usually have the beaten down look to them either. I really prefer sites with grass still in them."
Ditto. Though I'm not fussy about landings, more concerned about access to deep water for ease of swimming with a dive in entry. Actually prefer sites that grass has not grown on because they have so little use that grass has not yet invaded.
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09/05/2021 09:39AM |
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10/26/2021 07:36AM |
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09/04/2021 12:52PM |
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04/28/2023 10:57AM |
Here is a pic from 2022:
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04/19/2023 10:29AM |
joewildlife: “
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I noticed in burned areas of BWCA that the firefighting aircraft must have waterbombed many of the campsites and they survived. I'm thinking the Alpine/Seagull/Ogish area. I doubt they do that in Quetico.
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I noticed that last time I was in the number chain in the bwca a couple years ago and noticed that many campsites were spared and still had mature trees. I figured that probably wasn’t the case in Quetico as well. I’m worried that the nice camp on the eastern shore of Ted is toast.
Has anyone seen trip reports through the burned area yet? It would be an interesting read.
I only take one trip up to the Q each year, so it’s hard to want to spend much of that trip paddling and camping in a recently burned area. I’m sure it’s the same for many here, but I planned my trips last year and this year through areas not included in the recent large fire.
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04/19/2023 10:58AM |
There's a chance the northern site is still uncrisped, and the second-most southern site could be OK too. Others likely in the burn.
But perhaps the images are deceiving...need boots on the ground to be sure.
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04/29/2023 07:32PM |
TomT: "When I'm solo I try to look for 1 and 2 star sites. Usually the rating is for poor tent pads or only one good one. Being in a hammock is more versatile in that area. "
Same! Though I have also found some exceptions where it's a poor site for any number of paddlers above zero.
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04/30/2023 04:34PM |
Banksiana: "TomT: "
When I'm solo I try to look for 1 and 2 star sites. Usually the rating is for poor tent pads or only one good one. Being in a hammock is more versatile in that area. For me a good landing is most important.
There's some real jewels out there rated 2 stars if you are solo with a hammock. They don't usually have the beaten down look to them either. I really prefer sites with grass still in them."
Ditto. Though I'm not fussy about landings, more concerned about access to deep water for ease of swimming with a dive in entry. Actually prefer sites that grass has not grown on because they have so little use that grass has not yet invaded."
I didn't know grass was invasive. I guess what I don’t enjoy is no duff at the site. I remember one site on I think Bell Lake around the Man Chain, and it was all worn down dirt and gravel. The site seemed beat to death and I didn’t enjoy staying there.
One of the coolest underused sites was that southern site on Ted. The one on the peninsula across from the pictographs near the channel. Banksiana it was you who told me about that. Just a really cool small spot with lots of ground cover and beautiful high overlook of the lake. I have a feeling it got burned over in the recent fires.
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09/03/2021 09:27AM |
About 25 years ago, my son and I went up the Falls Chain. Canyon Falls portage was a layer of soot that raised with each footstep. Next year, like black mud with grass. Next year, small bushes. Next year, short trees.
Last went through there about 4 years ago and all that was lacking were big mature trees.
Yes, sad to hear about so many nice areas burned, but this is part of the natural cycle of the forest.
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05/10/2023 02:38PM |
Banksiana: "Grass not invasive but a sign of disturbance or disruption. Poor word choice on my part.
I wonder what that site on Ted looks like post fire. One of my favorites."
I've been patiently waiting to read a report of that area from last year, but I haven't come across any. I only take one trip per year up in Quetico from Texas, so I'm hesitant to want to spend more than a few hours paddling through a burn area. But the whole area from Cone, Elk, Hurn, Ted, Earl, etc is definitely one I'd like to return to soon if it wasn't too badly burned.
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03/03/2022 02:09PM |
Hard to know if one will want to paddle through the burn areas since they are so large. I remember thirty years ago or so paddling down Kawnipi on a beastly hot and sunny day. The fire had gone through a few years before. No shade anywhere, no campsites anywhere. One long afternoon until we got to the falls chain. Only to find the Canadian Rangers dive team searching for a body at the foot of the falls. Not a good day in any way, shape or form.
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09/03/2021 01:37PM |
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04/28/2023 01:36PM |
Argo: "For reference, there's a longish island on Quetico Lake about halfway up the leg towards Kasakokwog that was burned to a crisp in 2002. It had three sites on it. The canopy is currently about half the height of the neighbouring territory twenty years later.
Here is a pic from 2022:
I'm curious - are any of the three campsites usable on it after twenty years of regrowth? No widowmakers, sufficient room to set up a tent and tarp, etc.
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04/29/2023 03:11PM |
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09/01/2021 11:17AM |
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05/01/2023 09:35AM |
I wonder what that site on Ted looks like post fire. One of my favorites.
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09/05/2021 08:30PM |
The biggest problem is that many campsites become unusable because of dead trees/widowmakers. Maybe in Quetico, the park crews will take care of that. Using hammocks becomes near impossible. Hanging packs is not an option.
Portages can become erased as all the dead trees fall over them. Maintaining portages after a fire is difficult because they brush in quickly with all the sunlight on them. Finding and following portages in WCPP is an adventure.
There is a rugged beauty to burned areas and the regeneration is awesome, and awesome wildlife habitat as well.
Those who go in the summer months will hate the lack of shade at the burned off campsites.
I noticed in burned areas of BWCA that the firefighting aircraft must have waterbombed many of the campsites and they survived. I'm thinking the Alpine/Seagull/Ogish area. I doubt they do that in Quetico.
Joe