Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Wabakimi :: Ok... so I want to go to Wabakimi. Now what?
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yellowcanoe |
Don Elliott of Mattice Lake Outfitters also does car shuttles. A good introductory trip is leaving via Little Caribou and up through Smoothrock and Wabakimi and back through Whitewater and McKinley and back to Smoothwater and down the Caribou River. The section maps that the Wabakimi Project has are good for finding portages. Often the landings are NOT obvious and often just one canoe length above a bad thing. The fishermen are usually gone by the end of June. Another good place to put in from the west is Flindt Landing via VIA Rail. The Flindt River is pretty. There is also a shuttle service from 599. Uncle Phil at pjcottonATtbaytel.net can advise. You best get him quick. He will be going in the end of the month. Oh the difference between Q and W..is that while you may see lodges, there is no campsite competition and your chances of seeing no one for two weeks are high. I spent four weeks there a few years ago and saw two people. |
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Jackfish |
I know where Wabakimi is and I'm pretty sure I know the roads that will get me there, but that's it. I'll be completely self-outfitted with canoe and gear and if I'm going, I'm going for at least a week. Most likely will be a 2-person trip, but could be four. Time will tell. I've been paddling Quetico since 1986 so, in that regard, I'm experienced in wilderness travel. What's different about Wabakimi? What are my options for put-in spot? What about routes? Campsites? Maps? Lay it on me, folks... |
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paddlefamily |
We purchased some of our maps from: Wabakimi Project "Uncle Phil' the founder of this non-profit is extremely knowledgeable about the park and in my experience, willing to offer insight and route planning recommendations via email. His info is very current as he is regularly in Wabakimi. His maps also indicate camp sites, rapids, etc. Our primary maps were purchased through an outfitter (who also happened to fly us in). I know there are online sources for printing your own topos and I'll let others refer you to those. You can enter by rail, road or air. Train info: Rail Canada For fly-in options, check with local outfitters. No road leads directly into Wabakimi, however roads access Crown Lands and so you can expect a 1-3 day paddle within the Crown Land before reaching Wabakimi. It is not recommended that you park you car on any remote road during your trip. I'd check with leaving it with an outfitter (likely for a reasonable fee). With our trip, they shuttled our car to the take out. We had permits for camping in both Wabakimi and the Crown Land. How's it different than the BW/Q? -Portages are variable (occasionally non-existent). Have a good axe and pruning saw along. -Be prepared to encounter wind on all sizes of water. Some lakes have rock gardens in unexpected places. -You may encounter more air traffic/fishing boats as there are fish camps located throughout. -You may encounter wildfires/smoldering. 2011 was an active season. |
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jcavenagh |
To come out you can do the train or talk to Mattice Lake Outfitters for fly-in fly out options. You will love it there. As I said at wing night, you are likely to be the only canoe party that you will see in the park. We went in the middle of August and there was only one other canoe party in our section of the park. There are fishing outposts, so you may see motor boats, but WWO or MLO can steer you around those areas if you want. |
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ZaraSp00k |
Paddlers in Wabakimi are seen as a threat by the commercial interests, whereas in Woodland they are seen as potential customers, it is more a difference in philosophy of the outfitters. Of course in Woodland, there are green zones nearby protecting the commercial interests. As far as parking goes, I am still waiting to hear from someone who has experienced vandalism of their car. This reminds me of Quetico 20-30 years ago where that was the rumor surrounding the Beaverhouse parking lot, never actually heard of anyone who experienced vandalism there either. I parked there many times, just do not leave anything of value in your car since the OP is not going for a couple of years. If you are interested in going sans train/plane/or pay to park, check out some of the older threads, there are a few possibilities. I'd be more concerned about the logging trucks, they are the people to watch out for |
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jcavenagh |
Park management in Wabakimi has a different philosophy than WCPP and parks near the US border. In Wabakimi they are more hands off and do less grooming of portages. I am not sure if any campsite maintenance is carried out officially by MNR, but if so, it is very minimal. I definitely want to go back there next year or '14. A photo of our guys looking for a portage. |
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yellowcanoe |
I would be tempted to say that fishing lodge operators get more of the super's attention but a friend of mine operating a string of fishing lodges reports that the super never even introduced himself when the super took office. OTOH. Claire Q and her boss ( I never met him and forget his name..I did meet her..so its my faulty memory) are all about WCPP being for paddlers and are on site in Red Lake and oh so eager to share updates on paddling routes. Wabakimi has subcontracted the portage grooming to the chief of the Whitesand Nation. To be on the portage crew is an appointed job from the chief. To say that this system has not worked well in the past is an understatement. That said a new tribal administration of course can improve the management of interior crews. |
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Jackfish |
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yellowcanoe |
Its a very dynamic park. A windstorm or a fire can disrupt portage trails. We cleared a trail of nasty blowdowns. It took all day to do 175 meters. Then six weeks later we went back thinking we would trot through. Wrong..Another six big cedar down from a big storm. 30 percent of the wood in Wabakimi at any time is on its side. What I am trying to say that anything we post one day can be totally inaccurate the next. |
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jcavenagh |
I am not ready to canoe to the Hudson Bay from Lake Winnipeg, but I am seeking a bit more challenge than I find in the BW or Q. That is why I want to go back and visit the northeastern area of the park. As I have said before, I really like the fact that Wabakimi has so few visitors. I like to go for days without seeing other folks. |