Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Wabakimi :: Trip planning
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HighnDry |
Anyway, I'm sure that some if not many of you are already familiar with the WP and are making similar plans.....good to have a couple of these things in the works to keep motivated for this onset of winter and "ice-in" :) |
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Thwarted |
Here is our background: 1). Son is very athletic but I am in moderately good shape. 2). We are experienced at flat water but limited in River experience. 3) Self outfitted. 4). Limited budget. A plane is probably out of the question but wouldn't that be great! 5). We have seven days available launch to exit. 6). It's all about fishing and photography for us. Base camp works but we enjoy some travel. We will drive up from Michigan so Armstrong seems most sensible to me. Beyond that is a labyrinth . Quetico would be easier but Wabakimi beckons ...for now. Please send me in the right direction. |
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HighnDry |
quote jcavenagh: "I'll take a stab at that one...As far as I know, there is no online planning map like WCPP has. Thanks! That's actually very helpful. I can manipulate jpegs and pdfs in my Adobe Acrobat and have downloaded all the WP maps of work completed --- which give me a pretty fair idea of what's out there (and what will need to be done in 2014 :) and allows me to edit them as I will need. I'll also take a look again at the MNR topo site. I've seen some sites that will allow you to purchase cheaper -- but my google chrome & antivirus didn't trust them --- so I've gone with outfitters to get some of these cheaper. Thanks again for the suggestions! |
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mrcanoe |
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.html Especially t2 and t5 in their terrain drop down menu. |
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wabakimimaps |
I can manipulate jpegs and pdfs in my Adobe Acrobat and have downloaded all the WP maps of work completed --- which give me a pretty fair idea of what's out there (and what will need to be done in 2014 :) and allows me to edit them as I will need. Thwarted: I'm delighted the maps on The Wabakimi Project website were of value in helping you plan your canoe trip. You are welcome to download and print them and even edit them for your own personal use but, please be advised, they are protected by copyright and cannot be sold or distributed. Thanks for your consideration in this matter. |
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jcavenagh |
However, there is an Ontario MNR Topo map site You can play around with that and then decide which topos to buy. The Wab Proj maps are very good for planning a trip. They show existing campsites and portages. The portages have blowup maps to give detail about distance and river right or left. |
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yellowcanoe |
quote Thwarted: "What kind of thinking is that? Rent a tent from an outfitter or pay a fine? That's extortion! If you camp on Crown land and are a non resident of Canada you must pay $10 per person per night. One way around this is to rent a tent from an outfitter then you do not have to pay $10 a night. Sometimes I rent my own tent from an outfitter if I am staying several days on Crown Land. Tent rental is less than the Crown Land fee; if it is not I pay the ten bucks. Don't want to get a permit? Don't want to rent a tent? The CO's are active in Wabakimi. I think the fine is over two hundred fifty bucks per transgression. Here is the MNR link You don't like the VIA charges? You could just paddle in and paddle back. Its been pretty widely discussed that VIA is making canoeists lives miserable. There is a price to pay for total solitude. All the chatter about campsite competition, portage etiquette in the BWCA is non applicable to Wabakimi. Camp where you like and eat your lunch on the portage. No one will notice. |
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jcavenagh |
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Thwarted |
How about I just pay off an outfitter and use my own tent? I bought my stuff so that I know my gear is reliable. The BWCA is starting to look better all the time. First the stupid train fee for the canoe and now this. I don't mind paying for canoe transport if it is prorated like the rider fees. But $100.00 to go 25 miles? Come on. Who thinks this stuff up? It is so stupid it's funny! |
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Thwarted |
No offense intended. Thanks to all of you who have worked hard to make the area viable. |
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mrcanoe |
P.S. I say camp on the crown lands because they are no different from the park proper and offer everything you can find inside the park. I've done 10 trips, 6 of them outside the park on Crown Lands and the Albany River, and really can't tell the difference. |
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mrcanoe |
I have done 10 trips with the Wabakimi Project, www.wabakimi.org I am familiar with many areas in and around Wabakimi Park, and can be helpful in planning your routes. I suggest you start with the Wabakimi Project website and then get back to me, mrcanoe or Phil Cotton at info@wabakimi.org Our knowledge at the Wabakimi Project is unsurpassed in this huge and relatively untouched canoeing paradise. |
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ZaraSp00k |
and if that wets your appetite, you'll be better prepared to self outfit the next time |
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yellowcanoe |
There are places with good fishing you can paddle to from Little Caribou just out of Armstrong or you can train in and paddle out. Or vice versa. The Lookout River is a good option. Since VIA flip flopped the schedule training out may be better than getting dumped in in the middle of the night. |
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ZaraSp00k |
and better yet I can pan & zoom so I get them looking exactly as I want |
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billconner |
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