Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Winter Camping and Activities :: Winter
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Jaywalker |
Stopping the runaway quote.... The 5 or 3 inch pipes are not meant to fit tightly through the stove jacks as AWB says which is to allow the tent wall to move up and down bit in the wind without moving the stove pipe. You want just enough room to allow the wall to move freely (though I really like AWB's idea of the flat hook and wire), but with too much space you get too much moisture in and more heat out. I don't think a 4 inch pipe in a 5 inch hole would be a good idea. You could try to make some DIY solution, like finding or making a piece of pipe that converts 4 inch to 5 inch, or just making some sort of gusset that would allow the movement but prevent/minimize the moisture in or heat out problem. Or you could just go with the simpler solution of the Knife-co stoves that Snowtrekker has customized for them. That's what I use. It would be nice to shed some pounds with a Ti stove, but I'd be more interested in that for fall trips where I am carrying it than winter trips where I am dragging it on my toboggan. |
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Birdknowsbest |
Headed up in 3 weeks and gonna basecamp with the tent and stove. 4 people and my dog. We will see if we fit. The tent is 11 by 9.5ft. Tent is 25lbs, Stove is 12. Easy to travel with in winter and will allow me to be dry in the spring and fall. Being dry I see as the added benefit. Yes, warm esp in winter but being able to dry your gear is gonna be such a luxury. Spendy yes, but you get what you paid for and I I paid less than half price for my 4 dog stove. Duane is great at ST. Everyone I talked to camps more in the transition seasons bc of their ST. I will get my moneys worth out of it. Caw |
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WTer123 |
quote awbrown: "There are a ton of canvas tents out there, but many are designed for either historical reinactments or western hunting. Might consider getting one. Need to finish installing the new shocks and smittybilt bumper we ordered from 4WheelOnline for the current Jeep project and then proceed with the Bronco before I find some time to try the winter camping. My initial research seems Snowtrekker is one of the best out there. |
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Soledad |
I burned my stove jack because I let the stove pipe rest on the jack. I run a pretty hot stove and that combination forced me to replace it this season. I got a new stove jack from Duane at Snowtrekker, and he dropped it off at Kevin Kinney's shop- (Empire Wool and Canvas) out of Duluth. I asked Kevin to sew on velcro on the tent and on the jack so that it can be replaced every 5 years or so. (maybe I will learn my lesson and won't have to replace it again) but since I also use the tent during the spring and fall, I will also sew a solid canvas cover for the hole, and a clear window each with velcro. my 2 bits |
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Arcola |
quote WhiteWolf: "Thanks for the replies. I'am leaning heavily towards the Snowker.trek " |
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Pinetree |
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awbrown |
quote WhiteWolf: "Thanks for the replies. I'am leaning heavily towards the Snowtrekker. When I purchased my Snowtrekker, I also bought a Snowtrekker stove. It's a KniCo stove with nesting stove pipe, The pipe set starts with a short section of straight pipe which is 5" diameter at both ends and is intended for installation of the stove damper, which is included with the stove. The damper is removed from the section of pipe for transport. Then there is an adjustable elbow which is 5" diameter at both ends. This is followed by several 2' lengths of pipe which taper down starting with 5" on the large end of the first section and end with 4" on the small end of the last section. The tapered sections all nest together to fit inside the stove for transporting. The stove jack on the tent is called a 5" but it doesn't fit tightly around a 5" pipe, so rain water can enter the tent through the opening. I have camped many times in the fall and spring when it has rained all day and/or all night. A little bit of water does come in around the stove pipe. If my stove is in use, the water just quickly boils off, but I've had a small amount puddle around the area of the rear of the stove over night or through the day when the stove isn't in use. I've never had anything coming close to heavy leaking even though I've been through some heavy rain storms. Now, after saying all that, if you magnify the photo of my tent from my previous posting of this thread, you will notice that I run a wire (picture hanging wire) from where the support posts cross down to the stove jack. I have a flat hook that I use to pull that area of the tent out a bit tighter, which also helps any rain water flow away from the area of the stove jack. I have never seen anyone else use this technique, but I use it primarily to pull the wall of the tent further away from the back of my stove. Works well for that purpose, giving me about 3" more clearance. |
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WhiteWolf |
Maybe a stupid question here. Stove jacks. I see Snowtrekker has either 3" or 5" stove jacks sizes on their tents depending on which model. In researching stoves I have come across some stoves that have a 4" stove pipe. Obviously that will not work in a 3" stove jack-- but is there something that can be done to seal up the remaining space if the 4" pipe went through 5" stove jack?? Or am I totally not understanding something? Not saying I would get this stove -- (costly- but I don't mind if the quality is there) but doesn't it have a 4" flue / stove pipe? I know there steel stoves (at least the smaller ones) are 5" which fits just fine on the snowtrekker model I'am looking at purchasing. Any input is appreciated- and again maybe I'am out to lunch on this. |
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awbrown |
Snowtrekker tents are the cream of the crop if you are interested in light weight and ease of set up. Snowtrekkers use lighter weight canvas than most other tent makers and every tent includes a sturdy, but light weight internal pole system. I purchased a snowtrekker tent several years ago and love it. |
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WhiteWolf |
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Arcola |
As for tents, I like old school. Don't get me wrong, CCS and Snowtrekker make awesome tents and are easy to set up with minimum poles or effort, but less expensive tents are out there. This is what I have right now and is generally not a one person set-up. |
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Kawishiwashy |
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