Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Winter Camping and Activities :: Triple wall exit pipe...?
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Jaywalker |
I am not familiar with Winnerwell stoves, and more importantly I don’t know what type of fireproof gasket you have on your tent? I have confidence in mine, but Snowtrekker makes their own and has a huge amount of field experience with them. For any other gasket, I can’t say how confident I would be. Bobber and Minnesotan - how old are your Snowtrekkers? Mine is about 7 or 8 years, I do not have any little flap straps. My Jack cover is held on with Velcro, and comes completely off. Wondering if your tents are older or newer? |
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bumabu |
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Minnesotian |
Oh, mine is plenty old. I got it off Craig'sList about 10 years ago now and it was old then. It's door is a big flap, not zippered like the new ones. The door also has ties to roll up the flap when going in and out frequently. Your question actually prompted me to go in the basement where it is stored and pull it out to take a photo of it's manufacturing tag: |
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bobbernumber3 |
bumabu: "....I do plan to burn through the night in Utah...." I don't think camping in Utah makes it necessary to burn your stove all night. If you are concerned about temperature, I'd recommend a warmer sleeping bag. If you are good at cribbage, make the loser start the fire in the morning. |
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bumabu |
bobbernumber3: "bumabu: "....I do plan to burn through the night in Utah...." LOL, if it was just me I would not, but I am going to do my best to have wife and three kids enjoy sleeping in a tent when it's 20 degrees outside, and unfortunately, none of them play cribbage... |
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Dan Cooke |
all the data below is for specific materials- it can vary some from manufacturer to manufacturer. Cotton Chars at 308°F Nylon Begins to melt at 380° Silicon coated Fiberglass- Welding blanket 600°F I have used this to gauge temps on the stove and on the flue and materials around the tent/ stove |
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Dan Cooke |
https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Lasergrip-774-Non-contact-Thermometer/dp/B00837ZGRY |
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bobbernumber3 |
bumabu: " I tried not to let the pipe get red hot for more than a minute while a new log was igniting, and would then...." A red hot pipe is too hot at any time, IMO. Risky and dangerous. |
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bumabu |
Also under consideration is the silicone stove jack for a tight fit right to the flue. I guess I am a bit nervous because the first time I burned my new stove with the damper open and the feeder door open that pipe was RED HOT. I know I won't ever burn it like that again, but I just want to make sure that I am not going to be scorched alive in a few weeks. My tent has a a heat/flame resistant stove jack with a 5" opening. I have a 3.5" pipe. My other idea was to wrap the flue with coarse steel wool to keep it centered, disperse heat, and limit the amount of heat loss to the tent. What does everyone else do? |
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Jaywalker |
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bumabu |
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Minnesotian |
Thanks for the update. How do you like that tent? How is the construction on it? I have heard mixed reviews on it. |
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Minnesotian |
bobbernumber3: "I run a single wall pipe thru a heat-resistant stove jack. It's about a 3" pipe thru a 5" opening. I don't consider a tight fit necessary. You want a bit of ventilation in your tent anyway. Bobber hit it pretty much on the nail head. My single wall stove pipe directly contacts the heat-resistant stove jack, its a pretty tight fit actually. I have never had any issue with the fabric catching fire. However, my Snowtrekker comes with a canvas flap that can be let down to cover the stove jackhole when not in use. That flap has some cotton ties for when the cover is rolled up. Those ties have sat directly on the pipe and the very tips of the ties, where there are loose threads a bit, has charred over many years of use. When the stove is going, and you are awake, any issues from an overheated fire can be dealt with. My only suggestion is to not run the stove while you are asleep. Bring sleeping bags/pads that will comfortably get you through the night. Also, if you don't have one already, I suggest getting a stove thermometer. Something like this: Magnetic Stove Thermometer This really helps on regulating tent heat. A lot of the time I will see the temperature in the stove falling but havn't felt it yet in the tent. This thing helps you keep an eye on a regular tent temperature. Have a good time! |
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bobbernumber3 |
I asked for a stove thermometer for Christmas a few years back. This is what I got stove thermometer . I like being able to check temperatures on various spot on the stove, tent sidewalls, chili reheating on the stove, etc. |
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bumabu |
Minnesotian: " I love the tent. We bought it to hold my daughters 10th birthday in, and a stove was part of my negotiation. The construction seems really solid to be honest. We had upwards of 30 mph winds in Zion and it handled them like a champ. rain and snow almost every day and never saw a single leak. I really like it for car camping. Its size and weight are a lot (16' diameter, and about 80 pounds dry). The stove is really great too, cant say enough good things about it. |
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bobbernumber3 |
Temperature regulation in your tent is a learned skill. The tendency early is to overheat and have wild fluctuations... it's cold outside and you don't want to be cold. So the stove is too hot and the tent door is open. Flames shoot out your stack and you waste wood. Warm and steady is your goal. Watch your wood, tend your stove, regulate your damper and adjust your stove vent. You have lots of tools to regulate temperature. |