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06/19/2017 03:03PM |
quote Skarc75: "I'm intrigued.
What is a ventilation shaft doing here? Did you already know this existed here?"
What is lot of the stuff I find doing there? Someone apparently had a need for a ventilation shaft at some time. I've often been out tripping and said to myself: "man, I wish I had a PVC ventilation shaft right now!" Just kidding with you.
I have a list of BWCA stuff, junk, things, like this. It is a long list, and gets longer every trip I take. There is sooooo much interesting stuff in the woods, much of it old garbage for lack of a better word. I'm sure 99.9% of trippers in the BWCA never venture far enough from camp or a portage to find little goodies in the woods.
Nevertheless, nice find. I will be in that area in a month and I intend to look if the campsite isn't occupied.
Mike
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06/19/2017 03:24PM |
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06/19/2017 03:20PM |
Mike
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06/19/2017 03:32PM |
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06/19/2017 03:38PM |
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06/19/2017 04:01PM |
The guy lines out and the changing diameter of the pipes make me think it is meant to have air flow of some kind. Not messy enough to be a meth lab. How about an illegal back woods fish smoker? Fish hang in the top, sterno with wood chips below, and it all cooks overnight away from the tent??
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06/19/2017 04:31PM |
That wash bottle still throws me off. It's typically used for analytical water testing.
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06/19/2017 04:34PM |
quote Jaywalker: "It seems a very odd shape for any type of food storage, and why stand it on end?
The guy lines out and the changing diameter of the pipes make me think it is meant to have air flow of some kind. Not messy enough to be a meth lab. How about an illegal back woods fish smoker? Fish hang in the top, sterno with wood chips below, and it all cooks overnight away from the tent??"
I don't know, just a crazy vent pipe with a door in my opinion. But what do I know
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06/19/2017 05:11PM |
I believe there is a large underground mine proposed in the area but that is south of there outside the BWCA and most likely doesn't have anything to do with this device.
It looks like a large marijuana bong too.
It's very intriguing. Thanks for posting.
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06/19/2017 06:02PM |
Let's see if they get back to me with a response!
i really wish I spent more time and gathered more details. (The mosquitos were horrendous back there). I did not check the depth or try to move any parts around.
I was kinda thinking someone on here would know exactly what this is!
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06/19/2017 07:48PM |
Don't laugh. It's as good as any of your lame ideas. LOL.
Terry
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06/19/2017 07:58PM |
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06/19/2017 08:08PM |
Alan
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06/19/2017 08:21PM |
Tomster
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06/19/2017 09:37PM |
quote BSW: "Biologist's bug collector? How deep was it? Very strange. When "ventilation pipe" was brought up I instantly pictured someone buried underground with that piping in air. haha Wow...vivid imagination.
~"
It does look like some of the images that pop up when one types in Aphid Suction Trap into google images.
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06/19/2017 10:31PM |
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06/20/2017 02:14PM |
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06/19/2017 02:06PM |
Does anyone know what this is? We found this about 100yards behind our campsite on Good Lake. Looks like it's been here a while and there is no trail nearby.
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06/19/2017 02:31PM |
It looks like parts are PVC plastic, and were those bags/bottles there or did you set them down to take the photo? Any other details?
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06/19/2017 02:41PM |
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06/19/2017 02:38PM |
I was thinking maybe a forest service well of some sort, but there were not any markings on the unit. It is entirely made out of schedule 40 PVC and painted.
It was found approximately 100 yards east into the woods off of the latrine on the eastern-most campsite on Good Lake. There was no distinguishsble trail, we just happened to come across it as we were bushwacking.
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06/19/2017 02:45PM |
Never to late to get ready ;-)
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06/19/2017 02:52PM |
What is a ventilation shaft doing here? Did you already know this existed here?
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06/19/2017 04:37PM |
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06/19/2017 05:31PM |
~
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06/19/2017 05:40PM |
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06/19/2017 05:48PM |
Yup, the shortage of rangers is producing some strang things and some damaged sites!
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06/19/2017 06:46PM |
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07/07/2017 08:16PM |
quote The Great Outdoors: "Just talked to a friend of mine that worker for the Forest Service for about 40 years and here is what he had to say about said contraption:
Looks like part of an old weather station. This would be part of the precipitation gauge. Most likely it's metal not PVC.
The rain gauge on top would automatically dump when it filled and the information would be recorded on a paper scroll kept on an instrument inside the door. It would also record temp. and barometric pressure. You would wind up the old ones and they could run a couple of weeks or more. The info. was graphed with pens. The new ones have solar panels and data recorders.
Research may have put it out there and whoever was doing the study didn't go and get it and nobody remembered it was out there. The expensive, delicate stuff seems to be gone.
And now we know the rest of the story!!!"
This 28 year Forest firefighter is not buying the above explanation.
Not saying the above is incorrect, I'm just scratching my head with the explanation.
What was described above, sounds to me like a Thermo-hygrograph.
I used these many times as late as the 1996, and kept one on my desk as a museum piece when I worked for the USFS out of Isabella in the early 2,000's.
You would wind them up and they would graph out the temperature and humidity on a scroll for at least a week.
We used a Rain guage away from the Thermo-hygrograph to capture perticipation.
We would use this information to guage when conditions were compatible to conduct fire operations.
Temp and Humidity information need to be gathered 4.5 feet above ground, to be accurate. (Same as where the National Weather Service gathers their info) this contraption is not capable of that, which is why I am suspicious of the explanation.
I have only been in the buisness for 28 years not 40, and will give the benefit of the doubt to your Ranger friend.
Thermo-hygrograph
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06/20/2017 01:42PM |
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06/21/2017 07:05AM |
The other funny thing is why locate it behind a campsite. Wouldn't you want it where the public wouldn't be stumbling on it?
I'm very curious. Hopefully someone comes along and tells us what it is.
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06/20/2017 07:13AM |
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06/20/2017 08:31AM |
the mystery continues....
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08/11/2017 01:55PM |
quote dew042: "quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.
How's that sound?
Mike"
It occurs to me that this might be an entrance to the Black Lodge, so be careful. You don't happen to only have one arm, do you?
Daniel"
Awesome Twin Peaks reference! Are you enjoying the new season? It's not really the same old Twin Peaks but in my opinion David Lynch shits gold so I've been loving it
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08/11/2017 03:05PM |
quote NoahDaBoa:
Awesome Twin Peaks reference! Are you enjoying the new season? It's not really the same old Twin Peaks but in my opinion David Lynch shits gold so I've been loving it"
Very much enjoying it, although frequently I wonder if David Lynch is messing with us on some scenes. The Audrey stuff, so far, for example.
Very pleased its standing on its own. Artistically and intellectually challenging, not just a nostalgia-fest. Some of the best characters are out, or passed, I miss Catherine & Pete Martell and the original Sheriff Truman.
Daniel
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08/11/2017 03:27PM |
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08/11/2017 04:03PM |
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I used to paddle crooked, but now I'm a straight man...
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08/11/2017 04:12PM |
quote timf1981: "Air shaft for underground science station on "LOST.
Or a part of SkyLab.
If you are younger than 50. You are probably thinking . What is SkyLab:)"
I'm 47... I remember the summer Skylab fell to earth, it seems like that was all that was in the news the whole summer. I was visiting my grandmother in Colorado and she wouldn't let me play outside for a couple days. They lived on a mountain with a good deal of land and I loved just being outside at their house ... I was going stir crazy.
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08/10/2017 11:36PM |
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08/08/2017 04:14PM |
quote Alan Gage: "Venting an old latrine site? Access door to monitor how quickly things are breaking down?
Alan"
This was my thought.
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08/08/2017 04:21PM |
quote gymcoachdon: "quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:
"
Now I'm just totally Lost..."
So were the show runners the last three seasons.
The show was a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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08/08/2017 02:17AM |
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08/08/2017 05:13AM |
quote LindenTree3: "quote The Great Outdoors: "Just talked to a friend of mine that worker for the Forest Service for about 40 years and here is what he had to say about said contraption:
Looks like part of an old weather station. This would be part of the precipitation gauge. Most likely it's metal not PVC.
The rain gauge on top would automatically dump when it filled and the information would be recorded on a paper scroll kept on an instrument inside the door. It would also record temp. and barometric pressure. You would wind up the old ones and they could run a couple of weeks or more. The info. was graphed with pens. The new ones have solar panels and data recorders.
Research may have put it out there and whoever was doing the study didn't go and get it and nobody remembered it was out there. The expensive, delicate stuff seems to be gone.
And now we know the rest of the story!!!"
This 28 year Forest firefighter is not buying the above explanation.
Not saying the above is incorrect, I'm just scratching my head with the explanation.
What was described above, sounds to me like a Thermo-hygrograph.
I used these many times as late as the 1996, and kept one on my desk as a museum piece when I worked for the USFS out of Isabella in the early 2,000's.
You would wind them up and they would graph out the temperature and humidity on a scroll for at least a week.
We used a Rain guage away from the Thermo-hygrograph to capture perticipation.
We would use this information to guage when conditions were compatible to conduct fire operations.
Temp and Humidity information need to be gathered 4.5 feet above ground, to be accurate. (Same as where the National Weather Service gathers their info) this contraption is not capable of that, which is why I am suspicious of the explanation.
I have only been in the buisness for 28 years not 40, and will give the benefit of the doubt to your Ranger friend.
Thermo-hygrograph "
That's exactly what I said above, maybe not with as much clarity as needed. You echoed the conversation I had with him!!
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07/17/2017 11:44PM |
quote mirth: "killing the ongoing quote. I return you to your regularly formatted canoe board."
How did you do that? I encounter this quite a bit here.
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07/06/2017 06:35PM |
Looks like part of an old weather station. This would be part of the precipitation gauge. Most likely it's metal not PVC.
The rain gauge on top would automatically dump when it filled and the information would be recorded on a paper scroll kept on an instrument inside the door. It would also record temp. and barometric pressure. You would wind up the old ones and they could run a couple of weeks or more. The info. was graphed with pens. The new ones have solar panels and data recorders.
Research may have put it out there and whoever was doing the study didn't go and get it and nobody remembered it was out there. The expensive, delicate stuff seems to be gone.
And now we know the rest of the story!!!
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07/06/2017 07:49PM |
Now that we know what it used to be, it can be converted into a bong and filled with Northern Lights.
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07/06/2017 10:25PM |
quote The Great Outdoors: "Most likely it's metal not PVC."
The OP did say it was entirely made out of schedule 40 PVC and painted..... Just sayin'
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07/07/2017 04:00AM |
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07/06/2017 09:57AM |
quote gymcoachdon: "quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:
Now I'm just totally Lost..."
By any chance are you confusing Dharma, the Hindu/Buddhist teachings related to cosmic order, with DARPA, the secretive US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency?
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07/06/2017 11:00AM |
quote quark2222: "I'm sticking with "The Big Bong Theory".
Tomster"
LOL
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07/06/2017 12:42PM |
quote SaganagaJoe: "quote quark2222: "I'm sticking with "The Big Bong Theory".
Tomster"
LOL"
I agree. As a child of the 60's this is a simple, easy, and obvious answer.
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07/06/2017 12:42PM |
quote dew042: "quote Jaywalker: "quote gymcoachdon: "quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:
Now I'm just totally Lost..."
By any chance are you confusing Dharma, the Hindu/Buddhist teachings related to cosmic order, with DARPA, the secretive US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency?"
Pretty sure its DHARMA is referencing the TV show Lost, ripe with conspiracy and a secretive fringe science organization. They have a underground bunker, hence the reference to a ventilation stack.
Daniel"
Ah, I stand corrected! I never watched the show so missed the reference.
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07/06/2017 01:11PM |
I would suspect that some Forest Service folks spend time there, too, considering they never seem to catch folks trashing campsites.
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07/06/2017 08:43AM |
quote Skarc75: "UPDATE:
I expect they will be paddling to Good Lake this weekend - sirens blaring. :)"
Gee, I would sincerely hope not w/ sirens blaring, Skarc75. ;)
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07/06/2017 10:51AM |
quote Jaywalker: "quote gymcoachdon: "quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:
Now I'm just totally Lost..."
By any chance are you confusing Dharma, the Hindu/Buddhist teachings related to cosmic order, with DARPA, the secretive US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency?"
Pretty sure its DHARMA is referencing the TV show Lost, ripe with conspiracy and a secretive fringe science organization. They have a underground bunker, hence the reference to a ventilation stack.
Daniel
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07/05/2017 06:43PM |
Tomster
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07/04/2017 10:41AM |
quote offroadjeeper: "I did a little exploring last week on our island site. I had noticed a wooden post with a reflector on it from our boat the day before. The reflector was stamped USFS 1968 I think. 2 ft from that was a 3.5 inch round metal pipe (like a water pipe) sticking out of the ground, about 4-5in above ground with a cap on it. The pipe was maybe 10ft from the shore line. The cap had the same date on it as did the post. I think it Read something along the lines of USFS CADASTRAL SURVEY 1968. Forgot my camera when I went exploring so no pics unfortunately. Definitely can find some interesting things if you look. I'm completely stumped at what you stumbled upon though. "
The woods are a gold mine of junk and stuff, much of it historical (meaning older, but still junk). Most people miss it because you often have to wander off and bushwhack a bit.
Mike
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07/04/2017 10:45AM |
quote Skarc75: "UPDATE:
Well... Minor update:
The Superior Nat. Forest Headquarters Office in Duluth got back to me today. They are puzzled as to what this is.
They have forwarded the pictures and location to Superior National Forest Law Enforcement.
I expect they will be paddling to Good Lake this weekend - sirens blaring. :)"
If the cops are going to investigate, I will bet they are going to either take in with them or dismantle it. I'll still look for it in a couple of weeks, but if you or anyone else hears more, please let me know, as I don't much want to look for something that isn't there anymore.
Mike
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07/05/2017 10:23AM |
JD
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07/18/2017 03:41PM |
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07/18/2017 11:52AM |
quote muddyfeet: "quote mirth: "killing the ongoing quote. I return you to your regularly formatted canoe board."
How did you do that? I encounter this quite a bit here.
"
I know you emailed me, but for the sake of everybody else.... when quoting another person's post it get's "encapsulated" within the "< quote >" tag which ends with "< /quote >". I broke the formatting here so the board software wouldn't read them and try to execute it as code. In real life there aren't any quotation marks or spaces between the <> brackets and the code.
What typically happens is someone replies with a quote, usually types their response inside the space inside the quoted text, and then whacks the rest of the post they're quoting, including removing the end tag to stop the quote. This causes it to perpetuate into subsequent replies until the quote is finally closed.
Mods have the power to edit user's posts and correct formatting issues. I suppose as users we could maybe report the offending post to the mods so they could edit the formatting, but its often just more expedient to start a reply off with the < /quote > to kill the ongoing nonsense.
That being said - Mike I'd be curious to see if its still there too. My guess is it probably is... USFS has bigger things to do than investigate random hardware in the woods. :)
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07/18/2017 03:02PM |
The forest service has not gotten back to me. My directions were fairly vague, so I highly doubt they've removed it...
The best direction I can give you is that I found this about 100 yards Northeast of campsite 2048. Break east off of the latrine path, and you're in range. It does not stick out, and you have to be almost on top of it to notice it.
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07/18/2017 09:42AM |
Mike
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07/03/2017 02:24PM |
quote gymcoachdon: "My initial thought was insect trap. A quick google search found this:
Looks similar enough for me!"
Party pooper. Lol.
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07/03/2017 06:56PM |
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07/03/2017 08:23PM |
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:
Now I'm just totally Lost...
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07/03/2017 08:23PM |
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:
Now I'm just totally Lost...
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07/03/2017 10:14PM |
quote gymcoachdon: "quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:
Now I'm just totally Lost..."
Exactly:)
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07/02/2017 09:48PM |
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07/02/2017 10:10PM |
quote Moss Tent: "My first question was, what were you doing a full 100 yards behind your campsite where there are no trails nearby? That's a long way in the bush.
How about a rainwater collection apparatus? That would account for the funnel on top, and the guy wires to keep it oriented vertically. Tube is to secure and stabilize the collection vessel and minimize evaporation. Contraption is large due to extended study period or anticipated heavy rain events."
I really like to explore when I get the chance. I don't typically wander too far, however, this area makes for fairly easy walking through the woods and I keep my gps handy.
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07/02/2017 10:17PM |
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07/03/2017 05:21PM |
quote gymcoachdon: "My initial thought was insect trap. A quick google search found this:
Looks similar enough for me!"
Still skeptical. Those traps appear to require a fan and electricity, and ours doesn't have a gasket on the door - hence the bugs could just get out on the edges of the door.
My money is still on Aliens.
Daniel
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07/02/2017 05:06PM |
quote Motox3802: "I thought maybe was somthing to store drugs in,Just empty mason jars, nothing in them?
But if it's open on top that wouldn't make sense.
I'm sure there's stuff coming from Canada into Mn thru Bwca
And reverse, hard to get caught.
I once found stash of about 4 dozen brand new mason jars stashed
In woods near an entry point. But never heard back from law enforcement.
"
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07/02/2017 08:02PM |
How about a rainwater collection apparatus? That would account for the funnel on top, and the guy wires to keep it oriented vertically. Tube is to secure and stabilize the collection vessel and minimize evaporation. Contraption is large due to extended study period or anticipated heavy rain events.
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07/02/2017 08:06PM |
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07/02/2017 07:51PM |
They were stashed with some other camping things.
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07/03/2017 09:58AM |
Looks similar enough for me!
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06/30/2017 03:26PM |
Could it be a fish smoker?
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06/30/2017 08:20PM |
quote Grandma L: "We will be watching for the official answer.
Could it be a fish smoker?"
I thought of that, but made out of PVC? And what's with the guy lines. And why paint it camo? Really strange.
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06/30/2017 08:25PM |
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06/30/2017 08:57PM |
But if it's open on top that wouldn't make sense.
I'm sure there's stuff coming from Canada into Mn thru Bwca
And reverse, hard to get caught.
I once found stash of about 4 dozen brand new mason jars stashed
In woods near an entry point. But never heard back from law enforcement.
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06/30/2017 12:40PM |
Well... Minor update:
The Superior Nat. Forest Headquarters Office in Duluth got back to me today. They are puzzled as to what this is.
They have forwarded the pictures and location to Superior National Forest Law Enforcement.
I expect they will be paddling to Good Lake this weekend - sirens blaring. :)
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06/30/2017 02:10PM |
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06/30/2017 07:54PM |
dr bob
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06/22/2017 02:24PM |
quote dew042: "quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.
How's that sound?
Mike"
It occurs to me that this might be an entrance to the Black Lodge, so be careful. You don't happen to only have one arm, do you?
Daniel"
I have two arms.
Mike
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06/22/2017 02:25PM |
quote Skarc75: "quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.
How's that sound?
Mike"
If it's buried treasure, we split the proceeds?!"
OK, though I don't know how much digging I'll be doing. I've been finding and snooping stuff in the BWCA for a long time. This will be another challenge.
Mike
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06/22/2017 11:40AM |
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06/22/2017 12:42PM |
quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.
How's that sound?
Mike"
It occurs to me that this might be an entrance to the Black Lodge, so be careful. You don't happen to only have one arm, do you?
Daniel
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06/20/2017 10:25AM |
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06/20/2017 04:17PM |
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06/21/2017 07:42AM |
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06/21/2017 11:27AM |
quote Skarc75: "Hi All,
Does anyone know what this is? We found this about 100yards behind our campsite on Good Lake. Looks like it's been here a while and there is no trail nearby.
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06/21/2017 02:39PM |
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06/21/2017 03:00PM |
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06/21/2017 03:38PM |
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06/21/2017 05:20PM |
quote aholmgren: "Neat find and thanks for posting! I don't know what it is, but sure am curious.
Was it set on the ground? (with some guide rope?) as it appears or was it dug into the ground or affixed to the ground at all? If it were any legit study it would be labeled and likely not a DIY/homemade contraption. What is on the top? cork/foam filter/plug?"
I feel dumb for saying this, but I guess I never even checked to see whether the shaft runs below grade or not...
I did check for any markings, as I thought if this were a study of some sort, there would most-likely be a forest service emblem or something. But there were no markings. I found it odd that they would just leave a bag and bottle lying on the ground nearby if this were a sanctioned study...
The top had some sort of plastic funnel.
I did contact the forest service and they have indicated that they are looking into it and will respond back... I will update if they get back to me.
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06/21/2017 05:46PM |
Or some other animal?
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06/21/2017 06:36PM |
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06/21/2017 08:40PM |
Whatever the object is I haven't been in this much suspense since we waited to find out who shot J.R.!
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08/10/2017 11:36PM |
Or a part of SkyLab.
If you are younger than 50. You are probably thinking . What is SkyLab:)
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08/08/2017 03:17PM |
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06/22/2017 06:24AM |
quote Oisinirish: "Bear bait contraption?
Or some other animal?"
Some kind of disguised bear bait station was also the first thing that came to my mind.
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06/22/2017 09:38AM |
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06/22/2017 09:43AM |
quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.
How's that sound?
Mike"
If it's buried treasure, we split the proceeds?!
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06/22/2017 08:35AM |
How's that sound?
Mike
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06/19/2017 08:24PM |
quote quark2222: "If it was on "High Lake", I would take a wild guess that is a giant bong.
Tomster"
I'm going to feel really stupid if I find out this is just a huge bong....
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06/20/2017 07:32PM |
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06/21/2017 08:16AM |
Was it set on the ground? (with some guide rope?) as it appears or was it dug into the ground or affixed to the ground at all? If it were any legit study it would be labeled and likely not a DIY/homemade contraption. What is on the top? cork/foam filter/plug?