Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Listening Point - General Discussion :: Dragonfly lessons
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CCBBSpeckled |
drnatus: "cool thread thanks for posting... but I will tell you, my first thought was "Cool I am going to learn something new about my MSR stove!"" I had a similiar thought. My thought was it was post from a guy who didn't know how to use his stove and i clicked in to help. |
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butthead |
Dragonflies emerging from nymphs on Zenith. butthead |
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nctry |
butthead: "nctry: "I thought you were going to teach me how to use my stove... " July 03 Goodland Mn |
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rtallent |
gkimball: "Chalk Fronted Corporal dragonfly. Saw a flock of about 20 around my solo campsite on Pipe Lake for 3 days. Some sat right next to me on the rocks. Looked them up when I got home and sure enough they are noted for being highly social and fairly tame. Just what I was seeing! Another cool species! I need to start learning these! |
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gkimball |
rtallent: "gkimball: "Dragonflies are some of the most interesting creatures. They are primarily an aquatic insect (some as long as 3 years in the water) that then emerges, molts and transforms into a flying insect for a short period. They are selective about habitats, and have specific times when they emerge, transform and mate. They also evolved back during the dinosaur eras. I looked up Meganeura. Wing span of up to 27 inches?! Makes you wonder how big the body of the insect was. Would definitely get your attention if you encountered one portaging somewhere! |
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rtallent |
On the natural history side: Gordon, can you recommend a good reference or two for dragonfly id and biology in the boreal? |
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sns |
butthead: "Dragonflies emerging from nymphs on Zenith." That is super cool. Gets the Entomologist is me going... Is this May? June? |
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rtallent |
gkimball: "Dragonflies are some of the most interesting creatures. They are primarily an aquatic insect (some as long as 3 years in the water) that then emerges, molts and transforms into a flying insect for a short period. They are selective about habitats, and have specific times when they emerge, transform and mate. They also evolved back during the dinosaur eras. That is one beautiful dragonfly! Some of the ones back in the carboniferous period were quite large, like Meganeura... |
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gkimball |
rtallent: "Well, this post is going two directions, and that is cool (I have a Dragonfly stove, too, and have had good luck with it). Here are a couple of resources I found when I started trying to learn about them. Minnesota with all of its aquatic habitats has an amazing number of dragonfly species. Prepare to be bewildered! A good portable field manual: Dragonflies of the North Woods by Kurt Mead A couple of good websites: Odonata of Minnesota Odonata Central |
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gkimball |
Sure looked like something straight out of the dinosaur era |
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Savage Voyageur |
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gkimball |
Don't know why, but I've only started paying close attention to them in the past 4 years after over 40 years of trips. Oh well... White Faced Crimson, Homer Lake, June 2016 |
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butthead |
nctry: "I thought you were going to teach me how to use my stove... " I'd be happy to give an in depth lesson Ben. Usage, maintenance, and tweaks for added performance. When and where? butthead |
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Savage Voyageur |
butthead: "Savage Voyageur: "I have quite a few flies that I use for trout that look just like the one Butthead posted. They are a big meal for a big fish. " Thanks Ken. I tried this last year on our lake for bluegills. It was so fun to see them attack my poppers. This spring I will try my dragonfly nymphs on them. I use a #5 wt rod with weight forward line. I think I will also need a strike indicator too. After supper I just go down in my yard and cast for Bass and Sunfish. Agree, it’s so much fun to catch them. |
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rtallent |
A day later we were fishing the river above and below a rapid and catching walleye and brook trout. On the rocks along shore dragonfly nymphs were coming out and hatching. The fish that we cleaned and ate that day, both trout and walleye, were chock full of dragonfly nymphs. So, we fed the mosquitoes; the mosquitoes fed the dragonflies; the dragonflies lay their eggs in the water and their nymphs feed the fish; the fish feed us; if all goes well, we have another trip to feed more mosquitoes... |
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butthead |
Savage Voyageur: "I have quite a few flies that I use for trout that look just like the one Butthead posted. They are a big meal for a big fish. " Gary try those in a local bluegill fishing hole with a weighted or sink tip. Cast and let sink to the bottom (time by count), retrieve and cast again. Normally it's sucked up on the way down. Absolute fun fishing gills with a 5wt rod! butthead |
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drnatus |
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nctry |
My CCS bags have always been a favorite to them. |
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gkimball |
rtallent: "gkimball: "Chalk Fronted Corporal dragonfly. Saw a flock of about 20 around my solo campsite on Pipe Lake for 3 days. Some sat right next to me on the rocks. Looked them up when I got home and sure enough they are noted for being highly social and fairly tame. Just what I was seeing! It is interesting how the timing of a trip determines the species you see. The Chalk Fronted Corporals are numerous in mid-June but not later in the summer. Some have longer seasons than others, while some are seen only lakes but not streams or bogs. Fun to learn it from trip to trip. |
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inspector13 |
Where intermediaries and inefficiency are desirable! |
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inspector13 |
I wonder what it would have looked like when a match was struck back then... |
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A1t2o |
Dragonflies and bats are really cool and do a lot to thin mosquito numbers. |
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Johnh |
Most mayflies and caddis float to the surface and emerge from there so the fish get them as they are rising to the surface or when they are in the surface film trying to break through or drying their wings so they can fly away. Emergence is a very dangerous time to be a bug and a great feeding opportunity for fish. |
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