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Savage Voyageur
05/20/2021 05:37PM
 
I wonder if a wrist rocket would take one of these out?
 
Argo
05/20/2021 08:41AM
 
In order to keep innovating new and exciting ideas that make our world so much better.
 
jwartman59
05/20/2021 04:38PM
 
Way long time ago we might have smoked some pot during our canoe trips in Canada. Pot made us paranoid and we always worried about this guy









Showing up, unannounced, in our campsite. Not sure the drone would be any better.
 
andym
05/20/2021 01:59PM
 
Good thing this idea was canceled. It was clearly poorly thought out. Monitoring campers with small drones is stupid. You need to use large drones that can fire missiles at people who violate leave no trace principles.
 
mschi772
05/20/2021 02:23PM
 
Ugh! I thought maybe the super weird attitudes toward camping was isolated to Ontario, but it would seem that Alberta has been infected as well. I'm worried about Canada.

Admittedly, I hear more and more stories of people noticing the USFS buzzing above them more and more frequently in their de Havilland Beavers, so I guess the difference wouldn't actually be that big.
 
tumblehome
05/20/2021 02:36PM
 
Talk about Big Brother!
No more skinny dipping.
 
MikeinMpls
05/20/2021 03:01PM
 
Interesting...I wonder if the USFS would consider doing this if the silliness, irresponsibility, or complaints of 2020 continued into 2022 and beyond. I am not suggesting they do.


Mike
 
yellowcanoe
05/20/2021 04:05PM
 
tumblehome: "Talk about Big Brother!
No more skinny dipping. "



And you can be on You Tube or Instagram as you do your bizness on the thunderbox with a view.. both ways.
 
x2jmorris
05/20/2021 04:26PM
 
tumblehome: "Talk about Big Brother!
No more skinny dipping. "



People can watch me skinny dip if they choose. Don't matter to me.
 
fraxinus
05/20/2021 04:37PM
 
x2jmorris: "tumblehome: "Talk about Big Brother!
No more skinny dipping. "




People can watch me skinny dip if they choose. Don't matter to me. "



I agree, that and I'd happily moon a drone if given the chance
 
timatkn
05/20/2021 10:21PM
 
Michigan vs. Ontario...currently Michigan is doing well due to vaccinations. Sorry your country's performance in this category has been pathetic for an industrialized modern nation. If you look at performance for the entire year, Ontario did a better job than Michigan. Fewer cases, fewer deaths.

Do I agree with how Ontario did all their shutdowns? No way. I agree with you, but you also have to admit Ontario did better early on.

Not trying to start a fight over who's better... both countries made errors... some we won’t know for years... probably some things they both did well we won’t know for years as well.

T
 
Argo
05/20/2021 09:46PM
 
Ford is once again taking credit for the declining numbers with his lockdown. But you tell me how it is that the state of Michigan, with the same climate, same population density and the same surge in April but with even more dire infections and death tallies than Ontario was able to reverse the trend without locking down. Whitmer was expressly told by the experts that the vaccine would not help her turn it around...that she needed another lockdown. Well, like so many states before hers, she chose to ignore the alarmism. For what reason? I don't know. The fact is that these two jurisdictions were in he same place a month ago - no, that's wrong...Michigan was in a worse place. Each achieved the same result. Michigan remains relatively free while Ontario is locked down.

Yet the government bureaucrats continue to be employed in an uninterrupted fashion, remuneration and pensions guaranteed and dreaming up whacked out methods to eavesdrop on their fellow citizens.

Total BS.
 
Stumpy
05/21/2021 08:46PM
 
Bringing shotgun from now on
 
missmolly
05/21/2021 06:21AM
 
I am one of millions of Americans who love Canada and Canadians. I still consider Canadians to be a brave, strong people.
 
missmolly
05/21/2021 06:45AM
 
Like T, I've witnessed suffering. I've seen someone struggle to breathe despite the array of lines perforating their bodies. It's not like dying of a heart attack, which means having to endure the feeling of a rhino on your chest for a few minutes before you're gone. Dying through your failing lungs is the slowest of deaths, half breath by half breath.
 
Cc26
05/21/2021 07:21AM
 
tumblehome: "Talk about Big Brother!
No more skinny dipping. "



My thought was - More skinny dipping!
 
MikeinMpls
05/21/2021 10:38AM
 
I thought the thread was actually gonna be about drones!

Mike
 
deerfoot
05/21/2021 06:41PM
 
missmolly: "I am one of millions of Americans who love Canada and Canadians. I still consider Canadians to be a brave, strong people. "


I will second this!
 
tumblehome
05/21/2021 06:22PM
 
MikeinMpls: "I thought the thread was actually gonna be about drones!


Mike"



Like most BWCA threads, we take a hard right turn soon after the first few posts. Sort of fun I guess. :)
Tom
 
Blatz
05/21/2021 07:06PM
 
deerfoot: "missmolly: "I am one of millions of Americans who love Canada and Canadians. I still consider Canadians to be a brave, strong people. "



I will second this!"
Same
 
andym
05/21/2021 11:21PM
 
tumblehome: "MikeinMpls: "I thought the thread was actually gonna be about drones!



Mike"




Like most BWCA threads, we take a hard right turn soon after the first few posts. Sort of fun I guess. :)
Tom"



I had been hoping to just make it a thread about whether firing missiles at misbehaving campers was a LNT problem because of the craters they would leave. Oh well.
 
Argo
05/22/2021 07:04AM
 
andym: "tumblehome: "MikeinMpls: "I thought the thread was actually gonna be about drones!




Mike"





Like most BWCA threads, we take a hard right turn soon after the first few posts. Sort of fun I guess. :)
Tom"




I had been hoping to just make it a thread about whether firing missiles at misbehaving campers was a LNT problem because of the craters they would leave. Oh well."



Even if this this thing was implemented I can imagine a scenario where some department head cancels the program because it mostly yielded shots of campers mooning the drones.

 
missmolly
05/22/2021 07:50AM
 
andym: "tumblehome: "MikeinMpls: "I thought the thread was actually gonna be about drones!




Mike"





Like most BWCA threads, we take a hard right turn soon after the first few posts. Sort of fun I guess. :)
Tom"




I had been hoping to just make it a thread about whether firing missiles at misbehaving campers was a LNT problem because of the craters they would leave. Oh well."



The craters will fill with water and the water will fill with fish, so no worry.
 
Basspro69
05/26/2021 11:41AM
 
andym: "Good thing this idea was canceled. It was clearly poorly thought out. Monitoring campers with small drones is stupid. You need to use large drones that can fire missiles at people who violate leave no trace principles."Lmao
 
missmolly
05/26/2021 04:11PM
 
Freddy: "missmolly: "Like T, I've witnessed suffering. I've seen someone struggle to breathe despite the array of lines perforating their bodies. It's not like dying of a heart attack, which means having to endure the feeling of a rhino on your chest for a few minutes before you're gone. Dying through your failing lungs is the slowest of deaths, half breath by half breath. "



I too have witnessed Covid Patients desperately trying to breathe. No doubt in my mind that the vast majority of people unvaccinated would roll up their sleeves if they observed what I have."



You're right, Freddy.
 
missmolly
05/26/2021 01:19PM
 
andym: "Thank you Argo and MissMolly. I feel fulfilled now.



1) Did you means "shots of" or "shots at" campers who are mooning the drones. It could be both.



2) so does creating new fishing lakes count as upgrading the wilderness?"



It not only upgrades the wilderness, but if a crater becomes a pond on an island, then a lake will have its own pond, which is sort of like a human mammal having a canine mammal and we all know how wonderful that is.
 
Freddy
05/26/2021 01:45PM
 
missmolly: "Like T, I've witnessed suffering. I've seen someone struggle to breathe despite the array of lines perforating their bodies. It's not like dying of a heart attack, which means having to endure the feeling of a rhino on your chest for a few minutes before you're gone. Dying through your failing lungs is the slowest of deaths, half breath by half breath. "


I too have witnessed Covid Patients desperately trying to breathe. No doubt in my mind that the vast majority of people unvaccinated would roll up their sleeves if they observed what I have.
 
andym
05/26/2021 02:56PM
 
missmolly: "It not only upgrades the wilderness, but if a crater becomes a pond on an island, then a lake will have its own pond, which is sort of like a human mammal having a canine mammal and we all know how wonderful that is. "


You are thinking on an even grander scale than I am. I was thinking that small craters might form lovely hot tubs. Either way, these are going to be really popular camp sites.
 
missmolly
05/26/2021 04:10PM
 
andym: "missmolly: "It not only upgrades the wilderness, but if a crater becomes a pond on an island, then a lake will have its own pond, which is sort of like a human mammal having a canine mammal and we all know how wonderful that is. "



You are thinking on an even grander scale than I am. I was thinking that small craters might form lovely hot tubs. Either way, these are going to be really popular camp sites."



Hot tubs? Yikes, for that loops us back to nekkid folks being filmed by drones!
 
andym
05/24/2021 01:38PM
 
Thank you Argo and MissMolly. I feel fulfilled now.


1) Did you means "shots of" or "shots at" campers who are mooning the drones. It could be both.


2) so does creating new fishing lakes count as upgrading the wilderness?
 
goatroti
05/24/2021 10:11AM
 
Stumpy: "Bringing shotgun from now on"


I had a neighbour with a drone and I considered shooting it down if it flew over my house...but I checked into it first a found out in Canada you cannot arbitrarily shoot down a drone even if it flies over your property without your permission.


It is however illegal to fly drones in Ontario Provincial Parks without written consent.