Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Listening Point - General Discussion :: Severe Storm Potential Friday Night!
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tumblehome |
WhiteWolf: "Watch out for some rough weather later tonight mainly S of the BWCA, Duluth area looks like the target right now, mainly large hail. " Yup storms forming to the NW now. Quetico, and NW Ontario are getting storms. BWCA is getting rain and thunder too. Tom |
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LindenTree |
marsonite: "LindenTree: "Some rain totals from the last round of storms. I was skeptical about the Ely rain also. Had to take a look 3 times to verify. Maybe the storms blew over the weather station. |
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Zulu |
7:57pm update: He doesn’t see any injuries. |
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Zulu |
Smaller cell moving towards Ely now from NW. 8:23pm. |
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Lionabe |
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jwartman59 |
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airmorse |
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LindenTree |
Ely .07 I Falls .53 Grand Marais .75 Eveleth .14 Meander 1.3 closest RAWS to the Canadian fires Fernberg .42 about 10 miles south east of the fires Seagull Guard Station .31 Skibo .19 Isabella .68 Grand Portage .07 Kabatogema .17 Duluth Airport .9 North central MN in the heart of the drought picked up considerably less all over the area. RAWS and NWS weather sites. |
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gravelroad |
"ELY – An intense thunderstorm with damaging winds and torrential rains didn’t last long when it struck here Friday evening, about 6:30 p.m. But in a matter of minutes, the storm downed numerous trees and destroyed dozens of artists’ displays assembled in Whiteside Park as the first day of the three-day Blueberry/Art Festival wrapped up. The storm uprooted trees in the park and blew tents and artwork throughout the park and, in some cases, into neighboring yards. "Festival organizers announced late Friday evening that the remaining two days of the festival will not be held as artists and city officials focus on cleanup. "By 8 p.m., the sounds of chainsaws could be heard all over the city as residents started to deal with the damage left behind by the storm. "Ely Police warned residents to stay off the streets as power lines were reported down all over the city. 'Due to the severe thunderstorm and damage caused around the Ely area, we are asking the public use caution as there are power lines and trees down,' said Ely Police Chief Chad Houde. 'Please avoid these areas. The city of Ely Public Works and Fire departments are out responding to lines and trees down. Please avoid the Whiteside Park area as Blueberry Arts vendors attempt to clean up their booths.'" Severe storm hits Ely, Blueberry Festival |
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Pinetree |
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Minnesotian |
If the winds pick up as predicted, the fires in Quetico are going to take off. |
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Lionabe |
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Pinetree |
Minnesota Power said Saturday its crews were working to quickly restore power to some 2,000 customers. Storm gusts flipped multiple canoers on Trout Lake, just north of Lake Vermilion in St. Louis County, but all people were accounted for, said Jonathan Wolfe, a meteorologist at the National Weather Service Duluth. |
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tumblehome |
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LindenTree |
My personal rain gauge by Piedmont Heights in Duluth showed .6 for the whole entirety of the storms. It is about 15 feet from the house so it is possible depending how the wind was blowing that it was in a rain shadow. I think the NWS, DLH airport showed .9 for the whole storms. That is about 2 miles from our place. |
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marsonite |
LindenTree: "Some rain totals from the last round of storms. Kind of disappointing numbers. On "What's up Ely MN" FB page, people were talking about getting around an inch in the Ely area, so I was feeling kind of optimistic. Must depend on where you had your rain gauge. Bound to be some more lightning fires popping up with those kind of totals, and I see there are two new fires east of Lake Vermilion. I've got a trip coming up in mid August, but it's written in pencil at this point. |
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Lionabe |
"Severe thunderstorm watch in effect for: Atikokan - Shebandowan - Quetico Park Upsala - Raith Conditions are favourable for the development of dangerous thunderstorms that may be capable of producing damaging wind gusts and damaging hail. Hazards: Hail 3 to 5 cm (1 to 2 inches) in diameter. Damaging wind gusts to 100 km/h (Roughly 65 Miles Per Hour) . Isolated gusts to 120 km/h (Roughly 75 Miles Per Hour) possible. A tornado or two are possible. Where: Portions of northwestern Ontario including Kenora, Dryden, Fort Frances, and Atikokan. When: Later this afternoon and evening. Discussion: Thunderstorms are expected to develop later this afternoon and may become severe with large hail and damaging winds. There is also a risk of a tornado. The thunderstorm risk will end later this evening after a cold front passes through the region. Very large hail can damage property, break windows, dent vehicles and cause serious injury. Very strong wind gusts can damage buildings, down trees and blow large vehicles off the road. Lightning kills and injures Canadians every year. Remember, when thunder roars, go indoors! Severe thunderstorm watches are issued when atmospheric conditions are favourable for the development of thunderstorms that could produce one or more of the following: large hail, damaging winds, torrential rainfall. The Office of the Fire Marshal and Emergency Management recommends that you take cover immediately if threatening weather approaches." As you can see, the wind forecasts look scary, but don't forget the hail. 2 inch diameter hail can seriously injure anyone it hits. Also note that tornados have entered the equation. Looks like a wild night for the BWCA and Quetico! I cannot stress this enough: If you are planning on camping in the BWCA, PLEASE consider altering your plans until these storms pass. Winds over 50 Miles per hour have been known to be deadly for campers in the BWCA. DON'T TAKE UNNECESSARY RISKS!!! Stay safe! |
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Lionabe |
"...STRONG TO SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL AFFECT THE BOUNDARY WATERS CANOE AREA WILDERNESS THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT... Strong to severe thunderstorms will affect the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness this afternoon and tonight. The storms will be capable of erratic and gusty winds of 30 to 70 mph, hail up to half-dollar size, frequent cloud-to-ground lightning, and locally heavy rainfall, which may lead to localized minor flooding of creeks, streams, and low-lying areas. Campers should take extra precautions in order to secure campsites and make a plan in case of severe weather. Check campsites for possible hazards, including standing dead trees or limbs, as well as low spots where water can pool. Move tents away from creeks and rivers in case of flash flooding. Prepare to protect yourself from large hail using sleeping bags or other padded Monitor NOAA Weather Radio for updates and possible warnings." |
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Lionabe |
The National Weather Service has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Warning for the far north-western tip of the BWCA: "Until 530 PM CDT. * At 428 PM CDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a line extending from near Rainy Lake West, to 6 miles south of International Falls, to near Littlefork, moving east at 35 mph. HAZARD...60 mph wind gusts and quarter size hail. SOURCE...Radar indicated. IMPACT...Hail damage to vehicles is expected. Expect wind damage to roofs, siding, and trees. * Severe thunderstorms will be near... Voyageurs National Park around 435 PM CDT. Rainy Lake West around 440 PM CDT. Rainy Lake East around 445 PM CDT. Other locations in the path of these severe thunderstorms include Kabetogama and Kabetogama Lake. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building." |
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tumblehome |
I was woken up in Duluth at 5AM to some strong storms. Nothing too severe but we got pounded with an inch of rain. We had a half inch last night too so finally some relief. This is a screen grab showing what went through Ely around 5AM. I'm sure the campers up there got a bit of a scare as this moved through. I think the BWCA has had a good soaking but Quetico was on the north edge. We are getting rain though which is good. And those cheap tents all knocked over, well they are pretty flimsy. They make the tamest storms look bad. Tom |
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Gaidin53 |
So tie down the canoes gunnels down in as safe a spot as possibles. They don’t become kites and fly away. Pick the best spot you can for the tent and tie it down. More out in the open? I’m worried about the trees falling on the tent but then the wind hits more. Tie it down iIn as many places as possible. Hopefully you brought enough extra tie downs. Make sure you Velcro to the poles in every place the rain fly can to the tent poles. Use some big rocks on top of stakes or as tie down points. Roots are great as well. Stabilize side point on tent tie downs to trees or other secure points. I’ve got a 10 by 14 ccs tarp on a ridgeline set up. Would it make sense to keep that low but put it up over the tent as an added rainfly. Obviously it won’t stop the tree from falling it’s just another thought to stay drier. Plastic ground cloth inside the tent like Cliff Jacobson preaches so we don’t get wet in the tent, one for comfort but also for increased ground strike lightning protection. Everyone in storm position on top of pads. I’d seal the packs down tight waterproof and strap them around trees in the campsite. They won’t blow anywhere then. Establish a this is a safe place where We go for safety if we have to leave the tent What am I not thinking of? Is the safest point out on the granite rock and not in the trees if you have to leave the tent. I know you want a low point for protection crevice. Not every site has an obvious protection point. Is huddling alongside an already large fallen tree an option if one is available and you don’t have an obvious safe rock protected location. Hopefully I’m entering on a trip next Friday! At some point I’m going to be out in a storm and just want to know I know the right moves. I have a Garmin Inreach which I’ll be using for weather and would have a friend monitoring for weather warning like this in case like this one it pops up as a big storm quickly like this one did. Hopefully I’d get the in reach message. I’m sure I’d monitor more closely if thunder storms are forecasted. I know this got discussed last year so I’ll probably search it. Ryan |
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Lionabe |
"...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 530 PM CDT FOR EAST CENTRAL KOOCHICHING AND NORTHWESTERN ST. LOUIS COUNTIES... At 453 PM CDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a line extending from 8 miles north of Kabetogama Lake, to near Kabetogama, to 8 miles southeast of Littlefork, moving east at 35 mph. HAZARD...60 mph wind gusts and half dollar size hail. SOURCE...Radar indicated. IMPACT...Hail damage to vehicles is expected. Expect wind damage to roofs, siding, and trees. Locations impacted include... Kabetogama, Rainy Lake East and Kabetogama Lake. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building." |
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WhiteWolf |
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Grizzlyman |
I’d highly recommend it for like $10-$20. Mine is actually a combo with a radio, flashlight, solar and a charging handle. |
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h20 |
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Mocha |
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Lionabe |
"* Until 730 PM CDT. * At 627 PM CDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a line extending from Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness northwest of Ely, to 11 miles northwest of Burntside Lake, to near Lake Vermilion, moving east at 50 mph. HAZARD...70 mph wind gusts and nickel size hail. SOURCE...Radar indicated. IMPACT...Expect considerable tree damage. Damage is likely to mobile homes, roofs, and outbuildings. * Severe thunderstorms will be near... Burntside Lake around 645 PM CDT. Other locations in the path of these severe thunderstorms include Ely, Winton, Robinson, White Iron Lake, Fall Lake, Basswood Lake, Snowbank Lake, Birch Lake, Babbitt, Forest Center and Little Saganaga Lake. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building. Large hail, damaging winds, and continuous cloud-to-ground lightning is occurring with these storms. Move indoors immediately. Lightning is one of nature`s leading killers. Remember, if you can hear thunder, you are close enough to be struck by lightning." Prayers for those caught in this one. Looks bad... |
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tumblehome |
LindenTree: "I set it for 12 hours from 10 this morning so it should have gotten all of it. My gauge just up the shore past Lester Park showed .40 yesterday and .90 this morning. I’m so glad we got something!! Tom |
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ScottL |
jwartman59: "In the bwca any night can be a storm. Just like you prepare for a bear attack prepare for a wind storm. Canoes on shore, lashed securely. Gear prepared for everything. This should be your daily routine." I agree. It may seem like overkill, but I tend to baton down the hatches every night when I'm in the wilderness. I'd rather have extra stakes anchoring down my tent and not need them than have it flapping in the wind while I'm inside praying that stay dry and in one place! Tent sites are chosen based upon the safety of the location and when we first set up in a new site I take time to scout the general area to assess where to hunker down if sh*t hits the fan. |
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tumblehome |
ScottL: "jwartman59: "In the bwca any night can be a storm. Just like you prepare for a bear attack prepare for a wind storm. Canoes on shore, lashed securely. Gear prepared for everything. This should be your daily routine." +1 I do the same. I always prepare for inclement weather. Being prepared is a big part of being comfortable. Tom |
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airmorse |
tumblehome: "ScottL: "jwartman59: "In the bwca any night can be a storm. Just like you prepare for a bear attack prepare for a wind storm. Canoes on shore, lashed securely. Gear prepared for everything. This should be your daily routine." +2 |
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jillpine |
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cyclones30 |
https://twitter.com/SuperiorNF/status/1418769615971254280 |
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Lionabe |
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smoke11 |
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