Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Listening Point - General Discussion :: Another YouTube Violation
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Speckled |
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Canoearoo |
They ate an entire pot of them |
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Bromel |
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11842 |
The Forest Service responded and said they're investigating so I don't think more people reporting will do anything but clog their inbox. |
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Kiporby |
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egknuti |
Spartan2: "Because of the comments, I uncharacteristically watched most of it. (I very rarely watch canoe trip videos.) I have several reactions. Can you imagine if everyone on the lake you’re camped on had a drone and was flying it all day and evening? Drones are Incredibly intrusive and actually quite noisy. No to drones! |
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Spartan2 |
I realize I didn't make my point very well, but I just didn't think this particular video was one that seemed to shout out a lack of respect for the BWCA the way some others have. I don't own a drone, a Go-Pro, don't make videos, and am not in favor of any rule breaking. And your point, egknuti, about how awful it would be if everyone had a drone is certainly well taken. Sorry if me saying I have "mixed feelings" could be interpreted to mean that I am in favor of them. My only point was that this particular example was mild in the drone's disturbance of others. . .not like some videos that have been posted in the past. |
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Spartan2 |
1. I became bored. The video was badly in need of editing if it was made for any viewing other than their own. 2. I did cringe when I saw them scrape those rented canoes up the rock slope. But let’s face it—rental canoes have a hard life. It happens. I was actually surprised to see them do almost all loading and unloading standing in the water. 3. At times I felt like I WAS back in the early 70’s, when I took my first trip. In the "olden days" we did wash in the lake (I am a bit surprised no one has mentioned the scene with them extolling the virtues of camp suds for cleaning up in the lake) and no one thought it was inappropriate back then. Also, as I watched these young men and witnessed their enthusiasm about the simple joy of just “being there” it did take me back to my early experiences in the canoe country when every single thing was fresh and new to me. 4. I find I have mixed feelings about the drone. Yes, I realize it is illegal. But I guess I don’t see why it is so terrible as long as you aren’t bothering wildlife or other campers with it. It does make the photography interesting. 5. I kept being amazed that these young men were taking a canoe trip from Lake One to Insula, Fishdance, etc. in July of 2021 and we didn’t see any other canoeists! No crowds on the portages, no groups of canoes offshore waiting to portage, no other paddlers or fishermen off in the distance in the drone shots, etc. So maybe there was more editing than I thought. It really did look like these guys had a five-day trip out of Lake One in July and had “solitude” the entire time. Wow! |
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merlyn |
I would like to see their reaction to the forums comments pro or con. I wonder if there is a way to contact them and ask? |
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mschi772 |
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OldTripper |
I wish we could go back in time to the '70s.... |
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missmolly |
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CabinAfter |
Here is another drone YouTube violation. Drone starts at 17:30. There’s more throughout the video.I emailed the TIP Hotline (thanks for posting) but if more want to it probably wouldn’t hurt. -Perhaps the real violation is the bellyaching after a 109 rod portage. So funny. Although newbies, these guys aren’t jerks. I think the key here is education. Videos like these should help us, outfitters, and the FS learn how to gauge educational material to new visitors. We are the ones who failed. Here’s the link: Youtube |
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airmorse |
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bretthexum |
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Mocha |
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MDVancleave |
That said, there’s plenty of reason to restrict their use there including their fire danger whatever actual nuisance they may be towards wildlife and visitors. |
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Prospector |
Why are drones prohibited in wilderness areas? Howard Zahniser, author of the Wilderness Act, could never have forecast the invention of remote-controlled flying quad-copter robots. But he and other wilderness advocates wanted to ensure that wilderness areas remain free from increasing mechanization. Aircraft were specifically identified as prohibited by the Wilderness Act, which includes all forms that may eventually come about through human ingenuity. The Wilderness Act also prohibits motorized equipment and mechanical transport—broad categories of devices and gizmos that include drones. Prohibiting drones, and other forms of motorized recreation, in wilderness continues to ensure that we have sanctuaries on public lands to protect wildlife from drone disturbances and for us to seek solitude and refuge from today's mechanized world. |