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A1t2o	09/23/2021 09:46AM   My buddy is really bad with names like this. He does it all the time and with other subjects too like ducks we hunt or character names in games we play and it seems like as long as it is close or there is some other lake with the same name, then he thinks its close enough. I only get frustrated when it actually causes misunderstandings, like when we are discussing entry points on the phone and we start talking about going in on Brant, so I pull out that map, then it turns out he really meant Brule. Usually it is just something to laugh about, but then it happens more and more so I wonder if I should have said something about it earlier before it became a habit.
Canoearoo	09/27/2021 11:26AM   JAP lake is now called Paulson Lake because they were afraid that the abbreviation for John A. Paulson would sound racist
bobbernumber3	09/22/2021 03:10PM   tumblehome: "LiquorPugs: "Kawishiwi." I was taught that it is pronounced Kush-way" Ka-wish-away I have heard. Shagawa... second "a" is silent. Like Shawano, WI
MikeinMpls	09/23/2021 10:39AM   bobbernumber3: "tumblehome: "LiquorPugs: "Kawishiwi." I was taught that it is pronounced Kush-way" Ka-wish-away I have heard. Shagawa... second "a" is silent. Like Shawano, WI " I read in a book once (that I cannot recall off the top of my head) that some pronounced it Cash-way Who knows. Mike
nctry	09/26/2021 09:57AM   Otter track was also called Cypress.
gravelroad	09/21/2021 06:58PM   bobbernumber3: "Saga-na-ga is just wrong and makes one sound like an out-of-towner. If you mis-pronounce Seagull Lake as Sea Gull Lake, nobody knows." But my wife, steeped in all things ornithological, will box my ears for using either one. “There’s no such thing as a seagull.”
tumblehome	09/21/2021 09:31PM   gravelroad: "bobbernumber3: "Saga-na-ga is just wrong and makes one sound like an out-of-towner. If you mis-pronounce Seagull Lake as Sea Gull Lake, nobody knows." But my wife, steeped in all things ornithological, will box my ears for using either one. “There’s no such thing as a seagull.”" Nor have we ever fished for Bower Trout! maybe brown trout. Good catch on Seagull. I never thought of that.
Banksiana	09/21/2021 10:24PM   My favorite is Dack Lake in the Quetico. A typo (supposed to be Dark) that kept being repeated until it seems its official.
Banksiana	09/23/2021 10:05AM   OldTripper: "What's the common pronunciation for Mudro? Is it MUD (like dirt and water) - row? Or MOO-dro? I've always thought it was the second but I hear a lot of folks using the first version. Anyone know which is correct?" English pronunciation/spelling tradition is that a vowel bracketed by consonants is a short vowel sound Mud not Mood. MUD-row is correct as is indicated by the spelling.
LiquorPugs	09/22/2021 08:42AM   Kawishiwi.
JimmyJustice	09/22/2021 08:01AM   And then there are these... Pronunciation Guide More
LindenTree	09/22/2021 08:58AM   gravelroad: " But my wife, steeped in all things ornithological, will box my ears for using either one. “There’s no such thing as a seagull.”" How so? I'm sure I watched a whole bunch of them play football last Sunday.
bumabu	09/22/2021 09:14AM   tumblehome: "Yes there is strange and fuzzy history on many lakes up nort. In the Quetico there is/was Darky Lake which apparently recently became Darkwater Lake due to some social correctness even though it was not determined to be a reference to skin color in the fist place, In Woodland Caribou we have Mexican Hat Lake which some people used to call it Mezicanat Lake. I’m sure many of the lakes in the BWCA and elsewhere were named solely for the need to put something on the map as the cartographers drew them. On the other hand, others have native significance and were named as what the Ojibway called them but roughly translated to English pronunciation. Tom" Mezicanat Lake reeks of too much cheap trade whiskey, lmao
tumblehome	09/22/2021 10:23AM   LiquorPugs: "Kawishiwi." I was taught that it is pronounced Kush-way
MikeinMpls	09/21/2021 06:17PM   Sag-a-nag-a or Sag-naga? Mike
tonyyarusso	09/21/2021 10:14AM   The feature along the SHT that has been known for decades as Alfred's Pond was recently discovered to actually have an officially recorded name of Ruffy Lake.
papalambeau	09/21/2021 11:28AM   Reminds me of the trip many years ago when we had Ogishkemuncie as our targeted base camp lake. My boys were young and our BW trip was always a highlight for our outdoor adventures. All week we referred to "our" lake as Ogish and what a great lake it was for fishing, camping, exploring, etc. At our last evening campfire we were reliving the week and all the great experiences and talked about coming back to Ogish. My youngest son chimed in with "maybe we'll get to that other lake, Ogishkemuncie, some other year"........
OldTripper	09/23/2021 07:21AM   What's the common pronunciation for Mudro? Is it MUD (like dirt and water) - row? Or MOO-dro? I've always thought it was the second but I hear a lot of folks using the first version. Anyone know which is correct?
tumblehome	09/21/2021 03:55PM   Yes there is strange and fuzzy history on many lakes up nort. In the Quetico there is/was Darky Lake which apparently recently became Darkwater Lake due to some social correctness even though it was not determined to be a reference to skin color in the fist place, In Woodland Caribou we have Mexican Hat Lake which some people used to call it Mezicanat Lake. I’m sure many of the lakes in the BWCA and elsewhere were named solely for the need to put something on the map as the cartographers drew them. On the other hand, others have native significance and were named as what the Ojibway called them but roughly translated to English pronunciation. Tom
MikeinMpls	09/21/2021 06:16PM   Lower Trout Lake.....was it a typo that made it Bower Trout Lake? Mike
Mocha	09/25/2021 08:23PM   Banksiana: "OldTripper: "What's the common pronunciation for Mudro? Is it MUD (like dirt and water) - row? Or MOO-dro? I've always thought it was the second but I hear a lot of folks using the first version. Anyone know which is correct?" English pronunciation/spelling tradition is that a vowel bracketed by consonants is a short vowel sound Mud not Mood. MUD-row is correct as is indicated by the spelling." So funny! This is what we were taught in English. I brought it up at work one day and was asked if I was an English teacher. I laughed and said nope, just remember learning that in English class
Basspro69	09/25/2021 09:02AM   gravelroad: "Sigh. I guess this is why people hire guides and outfitters. :-) "Lolololol
bottomtothetap	09/21/2021 09:45AM   some say Omega and some say Ogema
bobbernumber3	09/21/2021 06:42PM   Saga-na-ga is just wrong and makes one sound like an out-of-towner. If you mis-pronounce Seagull Lake as Sea Gull Lake, nobody knows.
gravelroad	09/24/2021 07:01AM   Sigh. I guess this is why people hire guides and outfitters. :-)
gravelroad	09/22/2021 11:04AM   LindenTree: "gravelroad: " But my wife, steeped in all things ornithological, will box my ears for using either one. “There’s no such thing as a seagull.”" How so? I'm sure I watched a whole bunch of them play football last Sunday." Football (soccer) team, kitschy 70s novel, bad translation of a play title - they’re all ill-named. ;-) The Seagull
gravelroad	09/21/2021 07:33AM   I once heard that a large part of the surveying of northern Minnesota was actually done while sitting in various bars and taverns. Even the nomenclature gets fuzzy at times. :-) Seagull Lake or Sea Gull Lake? Isabella Lake or Lake Isabella? John Ek Lake or John Elk Lake (groan) Vermilion Lake or Lake Vermilion? Or Vermillion? Others you know of?
Argo	09/23/2021 07:06AM   Banksiana: "My favorite is Dack Lake in the Quetico. A typo (supposed to be Dark) that kept being repeated until it seems its official." Word has it that the park's official stenographer was being dictated to by a guy from Boston.