Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Listening Point - General Discussion :: Canoe value?
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tumblehome |
Northwoodsman: "Ask them if it has a hull I.D. plate. If it does most likely the last two #'s in the hull I.D. will be the year it was built, that's pretty common and many builders adapted it." A hull ID is a requirement for any commercial builder. The Coast Guard administers rules pertaining to boat identification. https://uscgboating.org/content/manufacturers-identification.php More important than the year is the condition of the hull. From the pictures, it looks to be in good shape. If the canoe has been stored out of the sun then it should still have good life in it. The wood gunwales should be cleaned, sanded and then given a few good soaking coats of Watco wood oil. The asking price is fair but of course there is plenty of room to negotiate. You are buying the canoe during the peak season for selling canoes so don’t waffle too long. Good luck! Tom |
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papalambeau |
sns: "At first glance, here in canoe country that's a very attractive price even for old kevlar. Looks to be in good shape...drive it to MN and sell it for 2x that number this summer. :-)" I agree. I have the same Mad River and if it was for sale here in Wisconsin I would be picking it up today. |
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carbon1 |
It is a good price. Use a yoke seat for a center seat. about 100 dollars. |
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egknuti |
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ppine |
A nice canoe and a fair price but the gunwale problem might stop me. |
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sedges |
Two very nice paddles. The laminated one is probably a Mitchell made for Mad River. If the hull is stiff with no soft spots the price for the package is good, even with the old gunnels. I would press the gunnel point, but would be unlikely to walk away from the purchase. I do my own gunnel work, so the expense of replacement would not be much. If you are not interested in replacing gunnels yourself you need to ask around for cost to have someone do it. |
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Northwoodsman |
tumblehome: "Northwoodsman: "Ask them if it has a hull I.D. plate. If it does most likely the last two #'s in the hull I.D. will be the year it was built, that's pretty common and many builders adapted it." I knew that they had to attach a hull I.D but is it a requirement that the last two digits are the year that it was produced? |
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OldScout48 |
You can some of the liquid wood hardener and use it on the soft spots, if necessary. That could easily be a 20 year old boat and you don't need to be fancy with the wooden gunwales. |
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RedLakePaddler |
I look the canoe up online and the hull is symmetrical. I paddle my Explorer turned around sitting in the bow seat. It works well as a solo that way. If the gunwales are bad I would replace them with aluminum gunwales. It isn’t difficult to do and you would drop about 3#. If you have a trip plan this year you could pick them in Ely. Spirit of the Wilderness repairs and sell canoe repair parts. If the canoe was anywhere in Northern Minnesota I would be racing you to get it. If it is as good as it looks it would be a great canoe. Carl |
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jhb8426 |
Northwoodsman: "I knew that they had to attach a hull I.D but is it a requirement that the last two digits are the year that it was produced?" The format is defined in the regulations requiring it. There is no manufacturer interpretation. So yes that is required. WRT the boat, the price looks good and as noted the gunnels need some work. |
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OldScout48 |
You can turn it around and paddle from the front seat, but make sure you have some weight in the front or you will weather vane like you are on top of a barn. I would suggest a waterproof dry bag that you can fill with water and empty at portages. If the ash gunwales are solid $850.00 is a very fair price. |
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1JimD |
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sns |
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MidwestFirecraft |
sns: "At first glance, here in canoe country that's a very attractive price even for old kevlar. Looks to be in good shape...drive it to MN and sell it for 2x that number this summer. :-)" I second this advise. If you decide you don't want it you could almost certainly turn in for more in the Spring. |
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Northwoodsman |
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BonzSF |
Can anyone tell the year for this? It comes with wood gunwales . How easy is it to put in a center seat for solo use? This would be my first canoe purchase and I'm quite uneducated. Is that a good value? Thanks for any help or opinions Tim |