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scottiebaldwin	05/20/2024 04:49AM   Man, all this good advice comes a little too late for those poor guys who are now missing. Thoughts go out to all those involved.
Kendis	05/20/2024 07:11AM   Tried going upstream in a tandem last mid-June and could not overcome the current in the tongue. The scary part was turning to face downstream after we couldn't attain, without crossing the eddy line and avoiding the biggest whirlpools and boils. Not something I would try again. Ultimately we went around into the bay and took the short portage extension.
Portage99	05/20/2024 10:40AM   The account from someone who knows them stated they were fishing and tried to help other paddlers in trouble and ended up going over themselves.
pastorjsackett	05/25/2025 05:54AM   Our group is headed onto Iron this week, possibly towards Crooked. So I searched and found this valuable post. Snapped a picture on my phone for reference. I think no matter what the water level is like this year I'll take this longer route. I thought it timely to comment so this information pops back to the top of the comments just in case others are headed there too. Very helpful.
Pinetree	05/15/2022 11:59PM   Super high water and rapids roaring-be careful.
timatkn	05/25/2024 09:34AM   scat: "My question is, do some people run those rapids, it doesn’t look overly daunting if you are set up right. I’m thinking the poor guys were helping the other canoe, lost control and were swept over broadside maybe who knows, if you get caught the wrong way in that in that current… It’s really sad and strange. Can’t help but think where could they be. Best not to speculate and hope for the best for all those truly concerned. " The Rapids from the top of curtain falls? or are you asking about the rapids near the portage on the down side about 140 rods from the falls that is referenced in this post? People take the regular portage all the time, but in high water it isn’t uncommon for even experienced canoers to tip. For going down Curtain Falls…I don’t think it’s possible to run that. Especially in the spring, the water is extremely high right now. All of Crooked Lake dumps down those falls…the shear power is enormous. It’s full of rocks and logs and just like in this case that power can suck you under and just hold you down. When the water is lower, it would destroy your canoe/kayak and then beat you against the rocks. I can’t envision anyone running it anytime of year. In this case the report is the canoers were on Crooked Lake, anchored above the falls fishing. I’d guess quite a distance from the falls in a slack current area. Their other canoe had some type of trouble and they went to help, both canoes got sucked into the current on top of the falls and pulled over. T
EddyTurn	05/16/2022 05:54PM   I'd say people with w/w experience will have no problem figuring out if the upstream run of the channel is feasible, depending on water levels (in low water it can be lined). Those not used to paddling rapids will be good served by an alternative landing.
Stumpy	05/16/2022 06:36PM   HowardSprague: "Thanks cyclones - while I’m not headed that way this year, hopefully one day soon, and this is super valuable information!" Ditto that ! I did not know about this take-out spot. Besides, I like to portage. I've bushwhacked over peninsulas, to save 15 minutes of paddling, and stretch the legs. Thank you cyclones !
MinnesotaJenny	05/20/2024 09:09AM   Please someone clear this up for me I’ve been trying to understand how two canoes went over the falls. I assume no one ever does this intentionally so is that wrong? Do some people intentionally paddle through this to get from one lake to the other? Whether low water or high water I would never do that I only get in a canoe when it’s calm and still but I may be extra cautious I know. Thanks
dnobwca	05/27/2024 01:24PM   I've a couple things Boiling Water Paddle Tip I'm a canoe river guide here in Colorado. I've experienced a lot of the boiling squirrelly water which often flips people. Typically people panic because they grab the gunnels. The key to paddling through this type of water is to keep your paddle in the water at all times. It acts sort of like a third leg for stability. Hold your paddle deep and move it in draw or C patterns but keep it in the water. Alternative Portage around Curtain Falls? I'm entering BWCA on June 17th for a 21 day trip and we'd planned on using the Curtain Falls portage about June 23rd. I've been over the Curtain Falls portage several times without issue. If the area is still shut down for recovery operations when we arrive is there another portage option? I show a 160 rod portage on my large Fisher E-15 map but cannot find any portage on my other maps.
PeaceFrog	05/16/2022 10:31AM   Thank you Cyclone. Heading there for a day trip in a couple weeks
nctry	05/15/2022 12:44PM   I’ve done the swimming... the current also sends you away from shore as was my experience. That was the first time heading to that portage on that side. I normally go the way you propose. The “ledge” looks fun... oh, it’s fun alright! Haha.
cyclones30	05/15/2022 02:07PM   I've camped at that nearest site and we went fishing in the current there one evening. We decided to see how bad it was....I'm not sure I've ever felt more unstable in the few seconds we were getting spun around and spit back out. But we were dry! Never again since there's a choice. I'm sure it would have been fine if we were paddling hard and paying attention but we were fishing more than navigating and bam
GopherAdventure	05/15/2022 10:01PM   My dad and I were just discussing this spot tonight. That spot gives you a true appreciation of the power of moving water. I can’t imagine how swiftly that water is moving over that “V” spot right now. I take the back door portage almost everytime I’m over there, but right now it seems like a no brainer. Scary spot to end up in the drink. Tony
HowardSprague	05/15/2022 11:01PM   Thanks cyclones - while I’m not headed that way this year, hopefully one day soon, and this is super valuable information!
HighnDry	05/16/2022 07:38AM   I've only used the longer, "alternate" landing. It's longer but even in what I had considered to be normal water levels, I didn't think I could get my canoe into the channel landing without a lot of "rocking and rolling"....and eventually going for a swim! It'll be awhile I imagine, for water levels to return to normal. Rain in the forecast for at least 2/3rd of the state this week (mostly towards the weekend)....
Ausable	05/20/2024 09:46AM   MinnesotaJenny: "Please someone clear this up for me I’ve been trying to understand how two canoes went over the falls. I assume no one ever does this intentionally so is that wrong? Do some people intentionally paddle through this to get from one lake to the other? Whether low water or high water I would never do that I only get in a canoe when it’s calm and still but I may be extra cautious I know. Thanks " No one purposely tries to go over Curtain Falls in a canoe. The probability for serious injury and/or drowning is very high. See additional information from member plmn on 5/20 in the related thread Missing Canoer They were caught by the strong current at the top of the falls and swept over. To travel between Iron Lake and Crooked Lake, you have to portage around Curtain Falls. The portage landing above the falls is far enough from the falls that it is not dangerous, but the near landing below the falls, as this thread documents, can be treacherous.
Argo	05/20/2024 10:16AM   If you are unfortunate enough to find yourself going sideways to the current, immediately get down on your knees and get as low as possible while maintaining as much control as you can.
CoachWalleye74	05/20/2024 10:12AM   I frequent this area for 7-8 day trips for 12+ years. First and foremost, prayers for those involved with this tragedy. I am not aware if this incident happened above or below the falls but do know both areas have distinct challenges. In high or low water I've been through the "v" area below the falls a number of times. I don't recommend it, as members of the groups I trip with have tipped a few times. Most have problems when not approaching the "v" straight on and coming from a side. You have to be straight, paddle hard, and stay under control mentally and physically. I've seen countless other campers tip and we helped them to safety and retrieve gear while we were fishing the area. We try to provide the alternate route and strategy to those coming by that are interested in discussion. I've also spent time above the falls. It's extremely unnerving, for me, to be above the falls in the canoe, and I typically even go past the first put in area of the portage and out to the peninsula to be safe.
MinnesotaJenny	05/20/2024 01:57PM   Thanks for the straightforward answer. And after reading more I realize people may be trying to catch fish so there’s a reason they may be near the falls than I expected.
Portage99	05/20/2024 02:01PM   MinnesotaJenny: "Thanks for the straightforward answer. And after reading more I realize people may be trying to catch fish so there’s a reason they may be near the falls than I expected. " Yes, and another big factor is the current. It is impossible to tell how strong the current is from the surface. That is why people drown in flood waters sometimes. Water is insanely powerful. And, it can catch you by surprise. I had this happen to me on a local river. It happens fast. Others have commented this area is known for sneaky and strong currents.
BWPaddler	05/20/2024 02:53PM   nctry: "I’ve done the swimming... the current also sends you away from shore as was my experience. That was the first time heading to that portage on that side. I normally go the way you propose. The “ledge” looks fun... oh, it’s fun alright! Haha." So glad you are here to tell us about it.
schweady	05/20/2024 06:48PM   This thread was my very first thought when hearing about this tragedy. Although I have not been back to the area to use this particular alternate portage start, I have it saved in my gps waypoint collection. I feel blessed to be a part of a community of folks willing and able to share such important tips. Thanks again, cyclones30!
wetcanoedog	05/22/2024 08:06PM   i have been that way several times since the 1980's.i would work up the rock wall and make a sharp right turn and power into the landing.i did that one year when the water was high and at the turn i was flipped right over.a swim in the current and back to the rock wall area where i camped.later i heard voices shouting there he is.it was rangers in a big rowing canoe.we waved and they went off.a few years later i was using the bay portage start.i had a look at the end of the rock wall turn and there is a shelf that forms a low head dam.it's long and smooth and narrow so i assume when my bow went into that trying to turn i was flipped.
timatkn	05/20/2024 07:48AM   scottiebaldwin: "Man, all this good advice comes a little too late for those poor guys who are now missing. Thoughts go out to all those involved. " I am pretty sure the canoes went over the falls at the top, that’s what the early reports are…which of course could be wrong… This information is very valuable though. Thanks for posting Cyclones30! T
scat	05/24/2024 08:46PM   My question is, do some people run those rapids, it doesn’t look overly daunting if you are set up right. I’m thinking the poor guys were helping the other canoe, lost control and were swept over broadside maybe who knows, if you get caught the wrong way in that in that current… It’s really sad and strange. Can’t help but think where could they be. Best not to speculate and hope for the best for all those truly concerned.
cyclones30	05/15/2022 12:28PM   In most any water level, the lower end of curtain falls can cause a canoe to swamp if someone approaches the channel-side landing marked on most maps. With the high waters....I can only assume it's even more dangerous now trying to get to that landing. Instead, there's an alternate landing in the bay near that campsite where you can go about your business without worries of current. There are threads on this from years past but I figured with the high water it was worth a reminder. Take the green route if on Iron and going to Curtain Falls, not the black one. (unless you like adventure and/or swimming) I'm sure there are 100 more spots with high water to comment on possible dangers but this is an easy one at a popular spot. Also shout out to Voyageur maps for getting theirs back viewable online
straighthairedcurly	05/20/2024 05:10PM   Thanks to the info on this site, the bay entrance to the portage was what I used on my first trip through this area. Thanks for posting this info for more people to see. It is very helpful.