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Jeriatric
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Like Spartan2, I've been missing a lot of late. I hope everyone has healed and I do renew my vows.
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Basspro69
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Very well said Kip I agree completely, remember there are no stupid questions ! P. S. This is the best post ive seen since ive been on this site, thanks Kip :-)
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Trix
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One of the Best Posts I've read all week! Thanks Kip! I share in your thoughts! I'm On Board! I think we should all just get along & agree to disagree. Amen!
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campgirl
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I'm in.
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overthehill
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Yes. Thanks for bringing us all towards this "re-group". :)
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schweady
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Thanks, Kip.
"I do."
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moose plums
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I'm in
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fisher
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bp69 GOOD NEWS, i had my attourney look this oath over and he says, " this oath in no way applies to packer fans while on the subject of football". its our turn now enjoy it.
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silverback
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Gentlemen, Kip has already given his blessing to smack talk. However, you should ALL feel guilty for hammering on us poor Packer fans while we are down. We would NEVER do that to our dearest neighbors to the west. Shame on you!
Who Dat
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The Great Outdoors
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Yes, we know you wouldn't kick us when we're down!
And the check is in the mail..............!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Vikings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tampa Bay, WOW:)
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Corsair
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A great reminder for all.
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Wally13
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I'm in ! ALL IN !
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muskrat
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Thanks Kip,
I do so pledge !
As i.ve said before If you don't have anything nice to say keep your fingers off the keyboard.
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Cedarboy
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"On my honor I........"
CB
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Mongo65
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Kudos to you kip for starting this thread.
"Count me in."
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Merganser
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in
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bstrege
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I agree. Thanks Kip.
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bojibob
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In a recent post. I saw someone reference this to a exchange that was taking place between two members. I thought it was appropriate to bump this up.
But, even though I agree with the principles of this, there are some people who come to this board to self promote themselves or to show how intelligent they by deftly making comments that can very easily be taken as a shots across the bow. I have repeatedly seen one of the newer members doing this and he finally got slapped by the "paw" which in my opinion was overdue.
This new member is also the member of another board where he reguarly "stirs the pot" and has become a persona non grata there.
So this is my message to that person. You are not the smartest person in the room, we are all equal here. So please don't bring your "debate posting style" to this board.
The Oath does not, in my opinion prevent this.
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HansSolo
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quote Kiporby:
Adam and the moderators have created a wonderful site for us to exchange ideas, stories, experiences and even a few laughs. Sadly, I fear that the site is becoming more and more angry and critical than it was when I joined. It would sadden me if this trend continues.
Please join me by pledging to treat all members (new and old) with dignity and respect. Remember, we were all "newbies" at one point and all of us still have much to learn. The wilderness is a wonderful place that teaches us many life lessons including Humility. Let us remember the lessons we have learned in God's country and try to live them in the forum, in the chat room and in our everyday lives."
Nicely done Sir! Count me in.
Hans Solo
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schweady
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Not that much time has passed since the most recent post in this thread, nor even since my own renewal, but somehow I felt the need to re-up once more. Here's to those who uphold Kiporby's pledge, placed in front of us some 5 years back.
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OBX2Kayak
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Thanks for the reminder. I'm in.
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lundojam
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me, too. Good job.
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dalet
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It only makes sense to do this.
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croixboy96
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Up with this sort of thing. I'm in!
Croixboy96
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mjmkjun
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Nice post, Kiporby
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The Great Outdoors
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Basspro69
Don't do it, Bro!!!!!
The oath of dignity and respect DOES NOT APPLY to the Packers or their fans.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Great Outdoors
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fisher,
You state: bp69 GOOD NEWS, I had my attorney look this oath over and he says, " this oath in no way applies to packer fans while on the subject of football". its our turn now enjoy it.
This oath doesn't need an attorney's interpretation, since anyone with ANY DIGNITY OR RESPECT, could never be a Packer fan!!! :)
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canoe212
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Or an attorney.
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camp-n-scrap
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I agree, great post bob - thank you. G, I also like the quote you posted - thank you, too.
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GrandpaT
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You've got my pledge and support. Guess I should spend a little more time here reading a little since I'm about 5 years late on this.
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dl
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Kiporby,
Same experience here. Went a number of times fully outfitted by a couple of great outfitters. But, through my learning, via this great site, I too go it on my own (except for the periodic tow)!
Don't know if I would have done it, without the welcome response to the many questions posted on this site.
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willys53
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YUP!
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starz1994
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I agree Kip, and thank you for the trip report Red Rock to Alpine to Seagull. Took my 4 year old son for his first trip this year and used your trip report as a guide. Great times had by all. He can't wait to go again next year!! I can't wait either.
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luft
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quote bigdriver: "I'm out we cant all agree"
I don't think that necessarily means you have to be out... we can agree to disagree :-)
I generally enjoy reading all the different points of view but move on when the flames start.
Count me in!
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ryebread26
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im in!
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old_salt
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Treat others as you would like others to treat you. Count me in!
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OldGuide2
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Thank you and add another.
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knothead180
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I agree completely! Whenever I read a post that gets my dander up, rather than add fuel to the fire, I hit the back button on my browser and go on to the next thread. Why dwell on the negative when there are so many positive topics to enjoy?
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Parnell
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In Man!! Love this site
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Ho Ho
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Where's the "I Like" button when you need it?
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BigZig
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I am in!
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Bearman
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What have you been saying to each other??????????
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bugman
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I'm in.
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thecanoeman
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I'm in
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rlhedlund
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Wisdom beyond your years, Kip.
But then again, I remember learning that in kindergarten.
Checked back and am impressed with how many responded positively.
Thanks again.
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Woodbender
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Yeah I'm all for it. I've seen such behavior completely ruin another forum.
If I wouldn't say it across a camp fire - I don't say it here.
Thanks Kip and thanks to the Moderators.
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nojobro
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Welcome, odyssey186!
Of course I'm in. ;-)
As an aside, just because I'm so excited...I'm almost all packed for next week's trip. Woo! It's been a long 11 year gap...
(((group hug))) (LOL)
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ILikePike
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welcome all and thanks everyone for helping!
i pledge
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BWPaddler
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I'm renewing, and invite anyone to politely point it out if I should happen to stray by accident. I hope I'm strong enough to rescind and make amends if need be.
Thanks Airmorse.
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Always Outdoors
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Great post Kip!
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Corndog
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Count on me!
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dring
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As a Christian man this is easy I am in. Thanks for the original post.
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kanoes
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upon reflection, some of you are correct.....i have been a jerk again. no excuse for it.
re-upping on the oath.
thanks again dan.
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Spartan2
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Amen.
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kanoes
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re-upping now. the alternative just isnt worth it.
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GSP
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Bojibob, great post! Thank you. I have not taken the oath and probably will not. A quote to think about, if you want to debate every subject.
"I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me."
Dave Barry (1947 -
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campnscrap
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Thanks for bumping it Jeff - it absolutely needed it and Rob is absolutley right. :)
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jb in the wild
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Kip when your right,your right.
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marc bates
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I am a little late, but I am in. Very well stated, and a great idea.
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boonie
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:)GC -
The old man used to say "you're not paranoid...they really are out to get you!. Why is that?"
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ejschepler
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Nothing worse that reading posts from so called "know-it-alls" or just plain negative people. I can think of one person in another forum (Isle Royale) that I wish would "get it". I have been enjoying this site alot!! Thanks for all the help. I am in!
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MrWalleye
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I pledge and pinky-swear!
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JEFF2053
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Not that I'm a frequent poster but count me in
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smalltown
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im in!
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The Great Outdoors
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Trash Talk about football is OK TGO. Just remember that us Packer fans may reciprocate! :)"
I would expect nothing less, but don't think any Packer fan has the gonads to dis a REAL Viking fan!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Jackfish
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quote The Great Outdoors: "I hope this doesn't mean we can't dis Packer fans anymore:("
TGO, you're one of the more vocal Packer dissers and I'm ok with it as long as it's a fun, respectful bit of trash-talking.
Just remember, turnabout is fair play as long as it doesn't elevate to ugly.
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ripple
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One of my secret vices is reality TV. I don't know... all the crazy people and the weird issues that they are perfectly fine splaying all over the TV is just mezmorizing!!!
But I come here to hear wonderous stories of the seemingly infinite lakes, fantasy fishing, wildlife encounters... I want to learn which paddling adventure should be my next, I want to hear the stories from the people who are older than me still treking through the portages to their place of peace.
I promise to leave reality TV behavior to the "Wife Swap" participants I might converse with- everyone here will get only the same respect and dignity I would give on... lets say a portage I might meet them on.
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thebob.com
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Great site.
Speaking strictly for myself; I try to avoid controversial subject matter. I do not come here to promote any personal/political agenda, or to argue needlessly, or create much ado, over matters of little consequence in the grand scheme of things.
I try to treat people with respect; even people I don't know. I have the expectation that I will receive the same respect.
I come to the site to have fun, and hopefully learn some things I don't know.
Therefore, you can count me in.............
BOB
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deerfoot
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I'm in - thank you.
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ozarkpaddler
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quote blutofish1: "I'm still in"
Still "In" too.
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Scout64
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I am still in
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Jeriatric
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“Respecting others’ opinions doesn’t mean being untrue to our own.” ~ P.M. Forni
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rupprider
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Of all the threads that I have read in the last couple years this one sticks out the most to me. I figure its about time I sign my name onto it as well. Count me in!
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Basspro69
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quote h20: "I.m still in" +1
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Sierra1
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In again.
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moosewatcher
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I'm in.
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tnthekids
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Amen! I'm in!
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Grandma L
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I'm in, but isn't this a given.
My favorite BWCA travelers are always respectful of fellow paddlers and the environment so this is not a new concept!!! Shouldn't this be automatic and second nature to all of us?!
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georgelesley
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I'm in.
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mocha
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i'm there.
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bwcadan
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If not from before, I am now.
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rtallent
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Count me in, too. I do like humor, but to raise the spirit, not lower it.
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bottomtothetap
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I have sure enjoyed the friendly interaction I've experienced on this forum. Have also gained much important knowledge and even found an item or two to buy. Thanks to all of you!
I, too pledge to be civil and respectful. That being said, I also hope not to shy away from lively debate! My family doesn't quite get it: They think that each time I share a thought or opinion that contradicts a previous post, I'm "trolling." To the contrary, I think the exchange of different ideas, varying opinions, and ways of seeing things benefits us all and if my comment sparks a reply, then great!
The one time I can think of that I let my anger show was in reply to someone who had posted that while on a BWCA trip they planned to ignore the fishing limits, as they had done in the past, since it was so unlikely that they'd be caught. They felt that since they did not agree with the regulations, they had a right to break the rules and dared the rangers to catch and fine them. I was rather incredulous that someone would post this information, as I think most others on this forum would be as well, and I'm pretty confident that I would have near universal support if I replied the same way (I will) if a similar post ever happens again (I doubt that it will). I did not hesitate to tell that person that I did not respect such an attitude. BUT...and rather importantly, I believe I did remain civil about it and in all off this that is what I think we are all hoping for on BWCA.com
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jcavenagh
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quote bottomtothetap: "The one time I can think of that I let my anger show was in reply to someone who had posted that while on a BWCA trip they planned to ignore the fishing limits, as they had done in the past, since it was so unlikely that they'd be caught. They felt that since they did not agree with the regulations, they had a right to break the rules and dared the rangers to catch and fine them. I was rather incredulous that someone would post this information, as I think most others on this forum would be as well, and I'm pretty confident that I would have near universal support if I replied the same way (I will) if a similar post ever happens again (I doubt that it will). I did not hesitate to tell that person that I did not respect such an attitude. BUT...and rather importantly, I believe I did remain civil about it and in all off this that is what I think we are all hoping for on BWCA.com "
I was in that thread and I agree that you showed anger in a civil fashion. We can express displeasure or even opprobrium and still do so with a civil tongue.
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1956tbird
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With pleasure.
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h20
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just a bump.
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Speckled
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I'm in! As I've aged, it's become a lot easier.
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Papinator
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On it.
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OakyDoke
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My pleasure to take the oath! Peace and Love to all!
I must say, in my few years as more of a lurker through now, this community and the mods do a pretty stand-up job with the handful of users who must not be concerned much with Dignity and Respect.
Peace and Love to all!
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LaVirginienne
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I pledge to treat all of you with dignity and respect, to be an upbeat and joyful presence here, and to support each and every one of you on life’s great adventures here in the Boundary Waters.
Thanks so much for being here at this outpost that I return to every year for good company and great information.
You guys rock
LaVirginienne
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kanoes
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kiporby should go the the middle east. talk to the palestinians and israelis...get that conflict settled once and for all. i really think he could do it.
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Odyssey186
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I figured this is as good of a place as any to make my first post!
I'm in, can't wait to get back to the Boundary Waters - it's been almost 15 years. I need to make it an annual thing again.
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drnatus
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I support these concepts.
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perseidwatcher
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I will take the oath.
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GeoFisher
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I'm guilty......I will try better.......
I'm IN.......
Geo
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silverback
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I take the Oath.
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tg
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i'm in
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OBX2Kayak
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Agree!
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kanoes
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as do i. a new leaf is turned over for me tonight.
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gbusk
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Very eloquent Kip, I pledge.
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Buffy
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Of course--the same as if I were speaking with you all face to face.
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pmagoo7777
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Thank you!
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camp-n-scrap
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Well said, Kip, I agree 100% - count me in
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andym
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Wee said, I'm in (and nodding my head as I read the post).
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canoe212
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Me too.
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Earl
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Such a valuable resource. Among the many things I like about this site is the respect afforded others/newbies like myself. I self-deleted a post I made yesterday, because upon further reflection I thought it could be offensive - wasn't intended that way - but none-the-less. Always best to take a deep breath before posting. Consider me oathed!
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SWEST
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Its all about respect I'm in
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Kiporby
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I joined this site in August of 2007 because I had done a few "completely outfitted" trips in the past and was looking to learn more. Because of this site and the good members on it I have "graduated" to the point where I now have all my own gear and have done several trips in the last couple years. Heck, I have even taken my young daughter on several trips to the great north. The comfort level that allows me to do this is very much because of the help I have received on this site. Now that I am a little more experienced, I feel good that I am able to reciprocate the help I received to others. The Spirit of the Wilderness in cyberspace!
Adam and the moderators have created a wonderful site for us to exchange ideas, stories, experiences and even a few laughs. Sadly, I fear that the site is becoming more and more angry and critical than it was when I joined. It would sadden me if this trend continues.
I have witnessed new members being lashed and criticized for asking simple questions. Screaming matches containing foul language have occurred in the chat room and on the forum. Post are deleted because they are inappropriate. Is this what the site is about now? Ridicule and snobbery?
I think too many of us forget that the username you are conversing with or responding to is actually another human being. It is very possible that the "username" you are arguing with could end up being the "stranger" that helps you carry a pack across a portage, saves you from the angry waters after dumping you canoe, or invites you to share a campfire on a cold night when all the others sites have been taken.
Please join me by pledging to treat all members (new and old) with dignity and respect. Remember, we were all "newbies" at one point and all of us still have much to learn. The wilderness is a wonderful place that teaches us many life lessons including Humility. Let us remember the lessons we have learned in God's country and try to live them in the forum, in the chat room and in our everyday lives.
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whiteh20
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Amen
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bertrand russell
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"I think too many of us forget that the username you are conversing with or responding to is actually another human being. It is very possible that the "username" you are arguing with could end up being the "stranger" that helps you carry a pack across a portage..."
True dat.
To be fair, I think some things people have written have been misunderstood because people write on the web with a certain familiarity uncommon among strangers in real life. When you meet someone face to face, you don't usually lead with light trash talking. Good natured ribbing can easily be misunderstood in the absence of facial expressions, tone, and context.
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airmorse
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"Treat everyone as you would want to be treated".
I PLEDGE.
Posted perfectly. Thank you Kiporby!!!
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Mort
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Truth that needed to be said. Thank you Kiporby.
I'm definitely on board!
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onajourney
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I Pledge!
For 2+ years I pretty much was a "lurker" - tried to learn as much as I possibly could, and used many ideas to make our trips great. I was afraid to post because I didn't want to seem "stupid", etc. Now I realize I have learned quite a bit, and have started to add to the forums. I simply don't want to get involved in any controversy.
Thanks for the reminder.
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saltdog
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Count me in -- this is a club I am honored to join
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bapabear
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I agree. Thank you Kip for bringing this up.
I do hope to see this site flourish. I have learned more than I've ever expected to from my experience here and have found it to be a daily stop in my internet travels. A lot of the appeal has been the sense of sharing, humor and community. I hereby take the oath.
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520eek
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Count me in!
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alpine525
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Thanks for your posting - this is a great Messageboard with a lot of great members! Sometimes the discussions turn in to heated debates which lead to emotions being displayed. Let's all work hard keep it positive! :)
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choff
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Very nice. I'm in too.
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keithcatfish
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I'm in. This site is a gold mine of information, especially for those new to the BWCA. I feel an obligation to respectfully help others like so many of you did for me.
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Duboly
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Thanks Kip ! We're in.
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Dennisal
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Totally agree..
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NDCanoe
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Agree. This site is great.
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TN Man
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Agreed! In fact I just invited a couple of newbies to join and learn as I have done over the past few years.
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butthead
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Scrolling thru the replies I would say you are preaching to the choir, but Dignity and Respect can always use some preaching [about]!
I DO SO PLEDGE!
butthead
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Arkansas Man
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Dan,
Very good post and thoughts... As mentioned many of the people here agree whole heartedly with what you have said. As moderators we try not to intervene too much, and we hope that everyone gets along and that discussions progress as they should, with the exchange of ideas and tips. It is human nature to disagree at times, although it can be done civily.
The bad side of the internet as mentioned too, is the freedom to say in type what you probably would not say in person. There are other boards I do not frequent as much simply because of the bickering.
I like you, and everyone else think this is a premier site for the exchange of information about canoing and camping. The members here continue to make this board what it is, and you stepping forward with this Oath and Pledge of Dignity and Respect shows the integrity that is here! Again, Well Done!!
Bruce
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SunCatcher
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Well said.
I joined in February. Not so new to the world....just this site. The folks on here with experience have tought me so much it is truly appreiciated. and I in turn have tried to share some good thougts around my "Life experiences"
I will PLEDGE to be honorable and respectful me-self!!!!
SunCatcher
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gbusk
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Bertrand's gotta point, body language and word inflexion play a greater role in communication than the typed word.
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Savage Voyageur
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Great post Kip, I'm in.
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Spartan2
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Agreed. Very well said, Kip.
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stonecutter
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"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" Such a simple concept yet seemingly one of the hardest for some people to follow. Thanks for the reminder Kip.
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Winemaker
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Okie Dokie.
hummm....
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photonanax2
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I too am pretty much a lurker, don't post much and since I'm taking my first trip in September, don't feel as if I have a lot to contribute. But I have learned a lot from the members that are here and I think because of that I will be better prepared for this trip. Thank you Kip and too will take the "Oath of Dignity and Respect", not only for the members here, but for the BWCA as well.
Debbie K.
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Malamom
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Thanks Kip...I'm in.
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emptynest56
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Let's be an oasis of respect, peace, and dignity, just like the land we love so much! Most excellent thread!
Tim
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1313
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+1
(wait, nobody really does the plus one here. . . :-)
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wetcanoedog
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Scouts Honor...really.
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fishguts
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Amen, count me in.
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bumabu
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Me 18, only 9,982 to go!
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rlhedlund
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aye aye
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w_w_w_31
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Great reminder, as we all need a little nudge in the right direction on occasion. Thanks much Kiporby.
dave
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Beemer01
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Nicely said.
Would make the moderator's lives easier too!
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Bog
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Count me in!
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Voyageur
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Well put. I pledge.
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Kendra
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I took a few months off from viewing the site due to some of the angry posts. I use this site to wind down, relax, and get away from crabby people so Kip, I thank you for this post.
I'm in!
Also, if I have posted anything members have taken offense to, I apologize.
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muskielips
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Thanks Kip! A breath of fresh air! I too was tiring of some of the ridicule and snobbery that was being posted. I learn with each trip I make to the outdoors regardless of the locale and I hope to be patient with those that follow and learn from those who proceded me.
Thanks
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bojibob
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Kip,
Thank you for this post. I found it very timely as I have seen or been involved in a couple of incidents this week. Sometimes it is hard to judge the tone of a post...where no malice was intended but malice was seen and felt. I value this site for the expertise that is available. I promise to try to give more than I take and recheck every post for potential "land mines" before I click send.
Thanks again for your thoughtfulness.
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Jeriatric
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I too, take the pledge.
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dicecupmaker
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" Hear! Here!.....?
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lassenstap
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Cheers mate for a wonderful post
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PJ
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Ditto
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cowdoc
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Kip, I don't think this will get you a discount on your next trip....good post anyway ;) I is oathed.
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Old Hoosier
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Yup, I'm in.
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L.T.sully
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yep kip.
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solotrek
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Thank you for this post. I was considering taking a break from here for all the reasons you cited. But the right thing to do is what you did -- speak up. Count me in.
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woodsandwater
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I pledge, too! Thanks!
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nelsonone
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Second the Okie Dokie!
I love coming here reading the forums, looking at pictures and what not. I seem to be more of a reader than a poster.
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cheesehead
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i wonder if bromel will return now?
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kavdvm
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Very well said! Count me in as a pledge.
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otis
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I pledge!!!
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Jackfish
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Count me in.
This thread is exactly what makes this site a good one.
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Bill Tea
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Absolutely agree. Great thread. Thanks!
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timberwolf
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I too was starting to stray away from the site because of bickering and ridecule, and it's very nice to hear someone speak up and in a very tastefull manner. Bravo to you Kip well done. Oh yea....I pledge!!
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HangLoose
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I am guilty of losing my cool on this board in the past but I am now taking the Oath of Dignity and Respect. Thanks for this post and for helping create a way to share valuable BWCAW information in a respectful environment.
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honu
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i agree with the start of this tread. i pledge.
it has been nice to meet some of you at the wing nights. i hope that more will join them. it is so nice to put faces and names together. even if i don't remember them all.
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oldmil
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You got my vote! Part of the reason I frequent this board more often is to get away from that type of action on other boards.
Oldmil
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UPBoy
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Thanks Kip. I'm in.
You said it well.
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gbalex
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I agree
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fisher
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ahhhhh, another elusive guest paddler bravely posting thier opinions. (alright im in as long as it's still o.k. to subject, GUEST PADDLERS AND THOSE WHO HAVE'NT TAKEN THE OATH, to our finely crafted "ridicule and snobbery" c'mon kiporby ya know its fair.
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Blueshadow
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I also pledge to comply. I think that is how we all would wish to be treated....respectfully. It's a site that has a lot to offer and it should not for any reason steer people away because of negative experiences.
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laker
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lame
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bbrown6057
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I'm in. I always try to treat people as I want to be treated.
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ChuckCrews
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I just stumbled onto this site and it reminded me of how much enjoyment I got from my trips. I hope to make it back this next summer. I take the pledge. 
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mc2mens
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:-)
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suko
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Where do I sign? You won't be asking for donations now will you Dan? I'm in buddy.
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Kiporby
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Wow! 150 posts!
A bunch of good natured folks. The wilderness brings out the best in me. I am glad it has the same effect on all of you!
See you out there! :)
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rookie in 03
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i too found this site to be invaluable in outfitting and planning trips, can't imagine if i'd have gotten slammed for asking what are now to me "simple" questions. thanks to EVERYONE and count me in with my pledge.
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shoreviewswede
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Agreed.
Thanks Kiporby.
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bogie3and1
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Although I don't say much, I'm in!
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reelcowboy
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Excellent post, I'm in.
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mcmillcd
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Very well said. I'm in.
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danhawk
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Well put - I pledge! I haven't been on the "Listening Post" board much. When I saw this topic I thought it referred to behavior in the BWCA itself which might make for a good separate topic.
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airmorse
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Bump.
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pswith5
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I am in agreement. Echoing where bertrand started also: I believe text messaging, facebook, myspace,cell phones and the internet as a whole in some extant are a bane on society! (I know that makes me a bit of a hypocrite being here) Typing these words can be impersonal and at times hurtful. As previously expressed, they are just words and don't always have the intended emotion behind them. My daughter and her grand-mother had a major misunderstanding due to one not seeing the other laughing at what was meant as a joke. Very sad. While I will continue to enjoy the good of this site I will try to keep it upbeat, helpful, and a measure to share and savor the passion for the BWCAW. Thanks for the thread! Pete
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smuts
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Count me in. I am a big fan of this web-site. I enjoy reading everyone's points of view.
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rayman
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No way, I'm out
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n8ville
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I'm in.
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Dances with Sheep
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sure
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PeterJonas323
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Thanks for promoting civility. I'm in.
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tobiedog
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@spartan2- I think we can all agree.....
that Michigan State is better than Wisconsin!
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Jeriatric
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I think I've done quite well in the last year.
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BoxofRain
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10-4 will comply
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bojibob
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Everyone has been doing very well. I think the "Standard" for the behavior here has been established and those that violated our happy world have been banished.
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Sierra1
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quote fitgers1: "Never saw this. Count me in and bump it.
Thanks Rapid Runner."
This is the first I've seen it also. I'm in 100% !!!
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fitgers1
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Never saw this. Count me in and bump it.
Thanks Rapid Runner.
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builditbetter22
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I'm in.
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Michwall2
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Done.
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Longpaddler
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I re-up. This site has the greatest people in the world!!
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Laketrout58
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The golden rule! Yes,I am in!, Marc
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h20
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Heck yeah! Once again, I'm in.
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This is like the third or fifth go around and many just don't learn it. It has improved some over time, but slips are still made by the usual suspects. Another reason that I limit my presence here
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billconner
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A bunch of posts deleted this morning, including mine reminding members of this oath. I wish people would think twice before condemning someone else's views. We don't have to agree, but stick to the subject instead of launching personal attacks. At the risk of being accused of bringing politics into this, we don't all have to stoop to the level of personal attacks of our elected leaders and representatives.
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billconner
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Thought it was time for a bump. Feels a few people have forgotten this principle. I recommit.
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adam
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Top
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HighnDry
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Good initiative, Bill. I'll give it a bump as well.
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jwartman59
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yup. if someone makes stupid comments regarding bigfoot, and those comments were penned with a certain degree of knowledge, more or less, respect that.
i'm not sure that made any sense. time to go work on the car.
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linkster
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It's the perfect time of year
to reflect on canoe trips past,
to share the joy of canoe trips presently being planned;
to rekindle old friendships and spark new ones;
and raise a toast to the canoe trips yet to come.
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Mocha
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it's a new Year. time to reflect on our words and actions toward others on this board and in the real world.
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Magelk
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I found this thread slightly amusing because this is by far and away the friendliest, nicest board I've ever been on.
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Oarlittle
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I'm in!
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plexmidwest
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count me in
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Me2012
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Me too
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nicek
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All in.
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UPBoy
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You can count me in Kip
UPBoy
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missmolly
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Basspro69: "In my opinion this is the best post I’ve ever read on this site !"
C'mon! It's not better than the post immediately below:
Basspro69 rocks!
You gotta love ^this^ post more, right?
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ThreeRivers
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I don't feel I need to take any oath, as it is common sense that I have always abided by here. Light fun is ok, but any attack is not, even on unique opinions. I have only been "confronted" once in the last 10+ years and that was when I asked about flags in camps which went a bit viral on opinions, that thankfully Adam shut down. I was looking for peoples opinion but it got very out of hand. 95% of everything on this site has made my experience in the BWCA better, which I why I donate.
Be well
3R
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schweady
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Renewing my vows.
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shock
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i'm in, with all the internet sites with trolls and haters it's nice to be a part of this one.
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Mort
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I enthusiastically agree. Count me in.
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Boats059
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The nail hit directly on the head, well written. I'm in! Thanks all for such a great community and sharing of knowledge
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Vanny
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Sign me up - I'm in!
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tschultzee
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Count me in !
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GeorgiaCoast
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Me too!
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jamotrade
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Been away for a while but please count me in on this...
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quetico152
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somehow i havnt done this yet, so i agree to take the oath
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rlhedlund
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Count me in ..... again.
Thanks Kiporboy.
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Maddog
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airmorse
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Just bringing this back up to the top.
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HighPlainsDrifter
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I have been away for a while. This post caught my interest as I looked for "what is new" (after a long absence). The words are nicely done.... the thought, an etiquette standard both here and in the field. Thanks for the post.
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BWPaddler
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I'll re-up too!
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Beaverjack
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Humug. Not really. I'll do my best to not be me.
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inspector13
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I find it funny that this thread is used as a tool in a passive aggressive way.
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bapabear
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It does come back when things heat up, doesn't it? I appreciate the occasional bump and reaffirm my pledge. Kip, you had great foresight in starting this.
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pdidy
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I agree
This site is my drug until I can go again next june!!!
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Basspro69
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Kip I want to thank you again for this, it really has made a differnce on this site !
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luft
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Reaffirming and striving to be a better person always...
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Basspro69
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Kiporby I think i need to retake the oath, because i havent really been that nice to Packer fans lately, considering their team keeps getting pounded into the dirt, but I digress, Im retaking the oath right now :-)
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sotaman
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I shall obey the oath.
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Jimmy2toes
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Count me in.
Jim
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karenmb
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As a newbie I am so thankful for all that I have learned at this site. I still have a lot to learn so I plan to use it extensively for future trips.
I did read some threads in which some quickly degraded others for poor planning or bad decisions. It seemed really odd to me because it was so different than the virtual interaction that I experienced. Perhaps user-names cloak our human-ness too much. I know I chose mine without really thinking it would become the name I am known by. I might have chosen something more creative and more of a mask if I knew I would be on the site so much-- wave-whisperer,canoe-can-do, sparkle-water...
And the irony-- the BWCA wilderness ethic seems like almost as big a draw as the place itself-- a creed that says/implies leave no trace, respect the earth, be gentle...
So anyway, this oath/creed/pledge is a nice idea and I am all in. Karen
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oldgentleman
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Well Said. I couldn't agree more.
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N8 Tr1
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I'm in
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speedwayusher
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I'm in
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mattmilleroutdoors
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im in
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bojibob
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Bumping it up.
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lars54
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Count me in also
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ottoparts
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Another Amen, brother!
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bailer
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Wow, a lot of replies.
I'm in.
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dmr
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Thanks to those of you who have helped me. So far, everyone's responded respectfully to my questions. When I do have something to offer, I aim to do the same...
DMR
(oh yeah, count me in...)
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Rapid Runner
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This post needs to stay at the top for everyone not to miss. i took a week hiatus and see that i missed this one. I am guilty also and i am in as well.
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woodlandqueen
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I also take the oath of dignity and respect towards people, living things and towards conservation of this planet...
hows that? am i in? :)
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ironmike
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Count me in.
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kanoes
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Amen Jeff.
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mc2mens
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quote bojibob: "In a recent post. I saw someone reference this to a exchange that was taking place between two members. I thought it was appropriate to bump this up.
But, even though I agree with the principles of this, there are some people who come to this board to self promote themselves or to show how intelligent they by deftly making comments that can very easily be taken as a shots across the bow. I have repeatedly seen one of the newer members doing this and he finally got slapped by the "paw" which in my opinion was overdue.
This new member is also the member of another board where he reguarly "stirs the pot" and has become a persona non grata there.
So this is my message to that person. You are not the smartest person in the room, we are all equal here. So please don't bring your "debate posting style" to this board.
The Oath does not, in my opinion prevent this.
"
I think I know who you're talkin about rob...thought it needed another bump.
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inthewoods
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yupp!!
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whiteh20
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Jeff and Rob,
You guys are so right!!
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millerb
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Me too, me too, me too!!!
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GraniteCliffs
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I wonder how many of us are thinking: "Good God, I hope it isn't me?!"
Perhaps it is a good reminder to us all. Good post.
On the other hand, paranoia runs deep.
It wasn't me was it?
No really, you can tell me.
Honest, I will try harder.
I am not that bad a person. Ask my friend. You can call him in a couple of months when he gets out early for good behavior.
Really.
Was it me? Just say it. I can take it.
Another sleepless night in Minnesota worrying myself to death.
There goes my grip on sanity.
It must be time to hit the water.
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gbusk
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Don't worry G. Cliffs, those whom this well written post was initially written for would never think of themselves as it's intended target.
They rest well wondering why everyone else is so clueless. :)
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mc2mens
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hahaha GC! I doubt it!
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spottedowl
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Huh? It wasn't you that did what? Get out for good behavior? Wow. Good God, I hope that's not me!
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mboehme
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Very good suggestion. In a sense, respecting each other in this forum is not unlike our pledge to respect the BWCAW when we agree to "leave no trace."
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gundog1
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Why not? Everybody else is doing it. I'm in.
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Packfan4
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Harumf! Harumf! (Blazing Saddles)
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dprochef
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I'm in. The Golden Rule should always be upheld. I think that is what the BWCA is all about.
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Kiporby
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Back to the top. There has been too much negativity, fighting and harsh words exchanged as of late.
I do not want this site to be damaged. I enjoy it way too much for a few to ruin it for the majority.
Peace, harmony, dignity and respect my friends! Learn to live it and mean it!!
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fishguts
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Amen, count me in.
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AndySG
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I pledge to offer advice when I can, ask only BW related questions, and thank those who answer them.
Doin' my part to keep it at the top.
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boonie
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Agreed.
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sloughman
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I'm in!
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campnscrap
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quote Kiporby: "Back to the top. There has been too much negativity, fighting and harsh words exchanged as of late.
I do not want this site to be damaged. I enjoy it way too much for a few to ruin it for the majority.
Peace, harmony, dignity and respect my friends! Learn to live it and mean it!!"
Amen and count me in as always
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lil_red
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I'm in.
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Basspro69
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Once again this is the best post ever Kip .
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BWPaddler
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Thanks Kiporby, as a relative newbie I hadn't seen this before. Sad to think it's needed a bump three times within a year... but I DO PLEDGE! Thanks again.
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The Great Outdoors
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I hope this doesn't mean we can't dis Packer fans anymore:(
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ChazzTheGnome
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Spent a few days contemplating a scathing post about all the negativity here on my favorite internet-machine-site, but thought that would just add to the bad vibe. Thought also about not visiting this site anymore…really don’t want to give up all the good just cause of a little bad though.
Thought that taking the oath and helping to keep this post at the top is a better way to go.
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solotrek
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I was in before -- still am!
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Freddy
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I couldn't agree more! "Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from themselves"
P.S. Feel free to dis this Packer fan anytime.
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Kiporby
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quote The Great Outdoors: "I hope this doesn't mean we can't dis Packer fans anymore:("
Trash Talk about football is OK TGO. Just remember that us Packer fans may reciprocate! :)
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oldgentleman
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Count me in. (again)
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AndySG
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quote fishguts: "I renew my Oath of Dignity and Respect.....again. "
Ditto.
This is what I do. Before clicking submit, carefully read what I've written and think, could this possibly tick anybody off? If I think it might, I edit before posting or just delete the entire post.
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AndySG
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quote rayman: "No way, I'm out"
Ha! Prepare to be Moderated Rayman.
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Kiporby
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quote airmorse: "Bump."
Thank you Airmorse!
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fishguts
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I renew my Oath of Dignity and Respect.....again.
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Billbo
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oldgentleman
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I'm STILL in!
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bradcrc
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interesting to see some of the people who have made this oath and then read their posts.
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blutofish1
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Count me in too.
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solotrek
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quote bradcrc: "interesting to see some of the people who have made this oath and then read their posts."
I'm in for the third time.
That said, I agree with bradcrc. I think it's great that this thread was ever started and great that it gets bumped when necessary. The value of the oath is not in taking it, but rather, maintaining and following it. It's sad, but all this thread really seems to do is to confirm what most of us do and feel anyway. I love this site and the vast majority of members are respectful and sensitive when they disagree with a topic or someone's stance.
The fact is, however, that some who have taken this oath have gone on to break it, which not only makes them disrespectful, it makes them hypocrites, as well. Another fact is that many who go against this oath never signed up for it in the first place. I actually have more respect for those people. Although they're disrespectful, they're not hypocrites, too.
I'm in and I will follow it. It's sad, however, that we ever needed it in the first place.
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Snipit
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quote bradcrc: "interesting to see some of the people who have made this oath and then read their posts."
Bump.....
interesting.
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OBX2Kayak
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Yup
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Primitiveman
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I'm sort of in on this, except when it concerns global warming deniers. Oh and mining near the BWCA advocates too. I just can't respect those opinions but in the spirit of this website I will try to treat them with civility. Primitive men are combative by nature so treat my posts with caution. They are always uncompromisingly honest though.
Jon
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bfurlow
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quote jcavenagh: "quote HansSolo: "
I'm in! (Also posted in the new thread regarding this topic.)
Hans Solo"
Me, too! ;)"
Me three!
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topperone
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You bet.
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karlwithak
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I'm in.
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shoreviewswede
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Yep.
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boonie
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Bump. I feel it's time to renew my pledge.
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Jackfish
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quote Spartan2: "To me, and I believe to most (all?) of us, it means that we need to be able to disagree without name-calling, belittling, demeaning, and presenting our own point as though it is the only point that can possibly be correct or sensible.
And sometimes we fall short of that. Sometimes we apologize. But we are trying to keep it civil and respect the dignity of every individual."
Well said, Spartan2. And fortunately, this board is full of people who generally abide by those words. Makes it pretty easy to be a moderator.
Thanks to everyone here on the board.
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Jeriatric
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I try. Really....I do.
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Frenchy
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Yeah, You Betcha!
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Michwall2
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Yes.
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jcavenagh
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quote HansSolo: "
I'm in! (Also posted in the new thread regarding this topic.)
Hans Solo"
Me, too! ;)
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h20
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As always. Civility rules!
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Kiporby
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WOW. 327 Posts! With all these replies it should be utopia here! :)
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HansSolo
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I'm in! (Also posted in the new thread regarding this topic.)
Hans Solo
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mocha
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i'll take the oath, not just for this site but for everyday life, too.
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jwartman59
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no problem for me to take this pledge. i have always considered myself fortunate to have been taught wilderness skills by some of the most experienced woodsmen in the north. on the trail I love to share this knowledge, to do this with dignity and respect does take a bit of skill and diplomacy.
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anacoluthia
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It seems some have fallen off the wagon as of late. :(
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Basspro69
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Im still in, even though subjects like the Green bay packers test my oath from time to time :-)
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KevinL
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I'm in again. Thanks.
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boonie
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A good reminder and as Mocha pointed out, not just for here.
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Freddy
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I so pledge.
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campnscrap
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Yep....once again I'm in. Who ever bumped it - thanks~!
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bowfiddler
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Yuppers!
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Thaumaturgist
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Count me in!
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MrBreeze
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I'm on board, way to go.
luv this site and the ALL the folks who make it so great.
Big Guy
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Boundary Boy
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Timed perfectly and well said.
I'm all in
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HikingStick
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I've missed this thread before, as I had been a very irregular visitor until the last year or so. I'm in.
To what did I just agree? ;-)
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CORIOLIS
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Somehow I missed this thread before. I take the pledge. I'm amazed at the number of posts. I thought I met a lot of brothers and sisters this past weekend; looks like I have just scratched the surface. I know I still have a lot of work to do, and I expect we all do. Bless you all.
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chesapeakes
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I missed the post somehow. I'm definitely in.
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gsfisher13
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I'm in (again I think) and always.
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fishguts
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quote fishguts: "I renew my Oath of Dignity and Respect.....again. " and again!:-)
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georgiaphisherman
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WE ALL SHARE A COMMON THREAD...I'M IN.
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northallen
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
The person on the other end is a fellow paddler who loves the BWCA.
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wawasee
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I'm in
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JoeWilderness
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What we know about life or anything else really doesn't matter.
What we share, does..............
I'm In!!!!
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Skilletmary
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quote knothead180: "I agree completely! Whenever I read a post that gets my dander up, rather than add fuel to the fire, I hit the back button on my browser and go on to the next thread. Why dwell on the negative when there are so many positive topics to enjoy?"
I'm in.
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nctry
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Great Thread... I'm in!
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jcavenagh
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quote Skilletmary: "quote knothead180: "I agree completely! Whenever I read a post that gets my dander up, rather than add fuel to the fire, I hit the back button on my browser and go on to the next thread. Why dwell on the negative when there are so many positive topics to enjoy?"
I'm in."
SM is right. Too much good stuff here to waste time on negative vibes. I hope my posts demonstrate that I live by the "golden rule" both on line and off.
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Troutman
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I'm all in!
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burntsider
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Treating other posters with respect doesn't mean agreeing with them on all points. My points of view are in the decided minority here -- and I understand that. I post without ad hominem tones but I do (and hope I'm able to continue to) express my viewpoints on the management of the BWCA and its effect on its periphery.
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Spartan2
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No, burntsider, I don't think the oath means that we all have to agree. To me, and I believe to most (all?) of us, it means that we need to be able to disagree without name-calling, belittling, demeaning, and presenting our own point as though it is the only point that can possibly be correct or sensible.
And sometimes we fall short of that. Sometimes we apologize. But we are trying to keep it civil and respect the dignity of every individual.
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bigdriver
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I'm out we cant all agree
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oldgentleman
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Is this the annual renewal notice?
OK, I'm still a subscriber.
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Longpaddler
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well said...count me in
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luft
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I feel like this is an excellent day to reaffirm my oath of dignity and respect! Happy Easter! My last vow was just before Christmas so I am seeing a holiday trend beginning...
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OBX2Kayak
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quote realandrea: "Bump"
Realandrea, thanks for the bump. This is good stuff.
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realandrea
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Bump
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TeamTuna06
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Good stuff!
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Scout64
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I agree. I am in!
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mboehme
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I'm in
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Canoeski999
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Im in
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wildernessfan2
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Well Said Kiporby! I am with ya!
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Kiporby
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WOW. My thread is still going strong. :)
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h20
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Word. Should be common sense.
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NinjaCoco
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*Stands on desk *
"Oh captain my captain."
Yes, I pledge this.
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Basspro69
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Im glad you stayed with this website Fog, dont let the 1% ruin it for you, there are way too many good people here, and you will see that over time. p.s. Welcome if I havent already said so .
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FOG51
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As a fairly new member I took some really harsh comments from some members when I asked their feelings were about buying a certain solo canoe and it not only hurt but it left a really bitter taste in my heart for them, but I was taught to respect other peoples ideas and go with my gut feeling, I bought that solo and man I cant wait to get it back on the water next year. FRED Of course I pledge to never do to anyone else what those very few people did to me.
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ArrowheadPaddler
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I'm in!
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Papinator
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Ok ok ill put the claws away... ;)
I'm in.
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blutofish1
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I'm still in
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joetrain
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Count me in.
~JOE~
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cheesewiz
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quote Grandma L: "I'm in, but isn't this a given.
My favorite BWCA travelers are always respectful of fellow paddlers and the environment so this is not a new concept!!! Shouldn't this be automatic and second nature to all of us?!
"
+1
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h20
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I.m still in
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JJ396
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Count me in!
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wetcanoedog
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next Wingnight i would suggest that the kids lead us all in the Oath as we stand around the fire...
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wildernessfan2
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Per Request I agree we have had some snotty replies lately..bump.
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rookie in 03
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Time renew my pledge. As to the tone of some posts, I remember when I was a lurker or new member one poster seemed very intimidating to me. When I REALLY needed help he was the first to reply with straight,accurate and important(to me) information. I went to my first wing night to thank him and found he was nothing like I imagined. I now consider him a very good friend and look forward to our infrequent meetings.
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dprochef
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quote chesapeakes: "I renew my pledge. This is a great site for info and conversation on the place I love."
+1 Again
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bwcadan
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So long as I can reserve the right to disagree, I am in. The way we write is important. I am fairly thick skinned and have not felt any sharp pain due to posts I have given although I suppose in hindsight offense could have been taken had I wanted to do so.
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PaddleIN
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"dignity and respect"
I'm in.
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Jeriatric
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I still had a few months to go on my last enlistment but I'll re-up ahead of schedule since I can't count on this thread magically appearing again, at the end of my current tour.
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missmolly
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quote bwcadan: "So long as I can reserve the right to disagree, I am in. The way we write is important. I am fairly thick skinned and have not felt any sharp pain due to posts I have given although I suppose in hindsight offense could have been taken had I wanted to do so."
bwcadan, so long as I can reserve the right have you never disagree with me, I am also in.
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chesapeakes
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I renew my pledge. This is a great site for info and conversation on the place I love.
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Basspro69
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quote chesapeakes: "I renew my pledge. This is a great site for info and conversation on the place I love." +1
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h20
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Agreed 100%.
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Wallidave
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always:)
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gotosleep88
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Very interesting. I like that this got brought up to the top. As a newbie is says that when things are getting a little dicy that members care enough to talk about it. I have seen other forums go completely under when issues are not addressed.
Cool! I'm in, of course.
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airmorse
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renewing my oath...
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muckluck
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Yes. Always.
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FOG51
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I haven't been on this site to long, have asked some less than great questions, have always tried to give honest advice,and have almost always been treated with respectful answerers. I simply will not be disrespectful to anyone, that was not the way I was raised, that is my pledge. FRED
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IBFLY
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I'll not do it. too much "j'ascuse" implied.
I do promise to be as fair and welcoming as I can.
BUt as for dignity, well, I'd have to have some; and respect, well, what goes around comes around. :)
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boonie
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Again
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h20
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Yes. I'm still in.
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OBX2Kayak
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Amen
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Sierra1
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I'm in again.
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Basspro69
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Still in
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Miketheflyguy1
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I am in .
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wenonahII
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I'm all for that!
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Kiporby
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A reminder. Trip planning season is in the air. :)
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wabakimimaps
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I note with interest that another popular paddling bulletin board has recently regurgitated a similar appeal for respect and decency. This seems to me to be more than a mere coincidence. I too am concerned and join the many members who have already pledged not to engage in such behaviour.
Another Appeal for Respect and Decency
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drglock
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I totally agree. I feel the same. I came here a couple of years ago to help be prepared for my first outfitted trip. Now, thanks to what I learned here from others experiences, I have my own gear, plan more trips and take my kids because I am comfortable doing it with the knowledge I gained here. Thanks to all those who contribute to the community. I hope that someday when I am an experienced paddler, I can offer the same help to other "newbies" like I once was.
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FISHMAN3
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So much truth to every word spoke, I'm in
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bfurlow
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I'm in.
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Miketheflyguy1
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Yes, I am in.
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h20
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quote RetiredDave: "I'm in and thankful to have this site, it's like a post-graduate degree in camping and canoeing. For instance, I learned when I joined a few years back that FIB means Friendly Illinois Brother.
Thanks moderators and contributors, even though I don't add much (to everyone's benefit!), I check this site every day. I have absolutely changed the way I camp and canoe because of it.
Dave" Yes, brother.
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Basspro69
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Im in. For those that have been here for awhile scroll through the names from the top, some nostalgia there from the members that are no longer with us.
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RetiredDave
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I'm in and thankful to have this site, it's like a post-graduate degree in camping and canoeing. For instance, I learned when I joined a few years back that FIB means Friendly Illinois Brother.
Thanks moderators and contributors, even though I don't add much (to everyone's benefit!), I check this site every day. I have absolutely changed the way I camp and canoe because of it.
Dave
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linkster
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I rededicate my commitment to The Oath of Dignity and Respect. Anyone can be inarticulate at times including myself, and I will make every to respond in a positive fashion or refrain from responding. I agree to disagree, and do not want to squelch anyone's opinion. I have learned much from the collective wisdom of this community.
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KarlBAndersen1
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quote Kiporby:"I think too many of us forget that the username you are conversing with or responding to is actually another human being. "
Which is why I use my name. I have always found "usernames" to simply reflect back to the days of CB radios when we used 'handles' to disguise our true identity, or to be very immature as a minimum.
I don't care what you say. It's childish.
I spend a great deal of my time in the cyber world for many business and professional reasons.
Many of the newer web sites I belong to REQUIRE that we use our real names and identities in our on-line profiles.
It cuts the b.s. to nearly zero.
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Elydog
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I'm in. Thanks for starting this thread.
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Basspro69
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In my opinion this is the best post I’ve ever read on this site !
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ChasenRahl
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Agreed.
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yogi59weedr
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I pledge to treat others with dignity and respect. I hope I have not offended anyone. I love this site.its like information on steroids. I still bust a gut on that thread about weed and that Barney Fife nip it in the bud video..
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PompousPilot1
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Yes, indeed.
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jtbwcaw
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I'm in!
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MNLindsey80
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I would love to pay this forward!
You guys never make me feel stupid. Yeah -Butthead often suggests doing a "search" on said posted topic.... that's been covered, but I liken that to my E6 in the Navy - who often made me do the research myself - which then - I learned faster, and retained better.
Regardless.... you've all provided me invaluable advice, and I just have to give a HUGE shout out to:
Cowdoc - You always give me the best advice, and chat with me at night - and I appreciate that! (even though you get annoyed at me for not responding, or being distracted with wine/chickens when you come into the chat room)
Canoearoo - you've become a "real life" friend, and I appreciate your friendship and your family so much!!!!
Basspro69 - for speaking matters of faith with me
Kiporby - for making me call you LT. Dan. My family referred to me as LT Dan when I went into the Navy - so I find it charming.
Bogwalker - for the rare lunchtime chat
520Eek - for chatting me up - late at night - and "watching" North Country with me.
Ducks - again - for providing invaluable advice! My daughter is excited to hang out with your daughters at wing night again!
Dan Cooke - your product line is bare none!
SevenOfNine - Thank you for your winter camping advice which made my first cold - tent trip a success! (And everyone else who commented on my post.)
And everyone else who has given me advice and encouragement. You've enriched my trips, and keep me excited!
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jcavenagh
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bump...
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mirth
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Apparently I have yet to take the oath, so therefore let me be sworn.
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Basspro69
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Glad to see this again, a recent post really made me think of this.
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bobbernumber3
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Stumpy: "bobbernumber3: "Aw hell... I'm gonna stay the same as I am and not pledge to be any different. I just upped my yearly contribution $5 to cover any insults or hurt feelings inflicted on others from my thoughful posts!"
Wow! You must be a mean, insulting, hurtful, person of some unrecognizable gender. ;)
Go ahead.... hurt my feelings "
I tend to be blunt and honest. And probably opinionated, which comes with age. I'm hoping my post would make people aware of the need to support this website financially.
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Stumpy
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bobbernumber3: "Aw hell... I'm gonna stay the same as I am and not pledge to be any different. I just upped my yearly contribution $5 to cover any insults or hurt feelings inflicted on others from my thoughful posts!"
Wow! You must be a mean, insulting, hurtful, person of some unrecognizable gender. ;)
Go ahead... hurt my feelings.
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Freeleo1
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Great thread to bring up yearly. We just went through a rough patch on another site. Some people like to bring contentious issues to sites about places that people go to find peace and personal renewal just to stir things up. Fortunately both that and this site have moderators that keep things on track and try to focus on promoting the forum as a place where people feel safe making comments and asking questions that will help people enjoy the areas we are discussing. Way to go everyone who helps make this site what it is. Always good to remind people we can be better.
Also, kind of sad seeing so many names of people from the past 16 years that are gone. I appreciate all that are still here to help me remember trips that have been and dream of trips still to come.
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billconner
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A few posts lately that lead me to bump this one up. And after writing and deleting a number of additional comments, I'll just leave it here.
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GoSpursGo
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always a good reminder
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Basspro69
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quote GoSpursGo: "always a good reminder " +1
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yogi59weedr
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Renewed. My oath. Now ill live by it.
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Savage Voyageur
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Lately there has been a few posts that I have typed out then hit the delete button. I will renew my pledge.
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SaganagaJoe
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I'm in.
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LindenTree3
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Never taken the oath before but I am in.
I try to always be civil, but if I am taking the oath, then I must apologize for a past transgression to riverrunner, I realize we are both passionate about bears.
Sorry riverrunner.
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Eric7753
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Very nicely put Kip, and thank you for the reminder. I completely agree and pledge, along with you. Everyone has an opinion, that opinion may not align with yours, but as I have grown older, I have figured out I have learned more when I listened to differing opinions rather than contesting them. Never be afraid to learn something new...
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Frenchy19
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The bump and reminder are timely. Thanks.
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missmolly
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quote LindenTree3: "Never taken the oath before but I am in.
I try to always be civil, but if I am taking the oath, then I must apologize for a past transgression to riverrunner, I realize we are both passionate about bears.
Sorry riverrunner."
You do much more than try. You are the epitome of civility.
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RetiredDave
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Oh I'm still in for sure! But I just found out what FIB really means....
Dave (from Illinois)
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butthead
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Never have because I probably will break it, still working at tempering thoughts and opinions. It's been a long process.
Mostly just want to thank Lindsey for what I consider the biggest compliment I have received. Obviously I do not read all posts often enough, so it is belated!
Never want to sound condescending, the wealth of advise that has been given here by members is something I promote and research often. I encourage others to do also because past members who have contributed may no longer be here....
Thanks!
butthead
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missmolly
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You are rightfully proud, JC.
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Grouseguy1
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I will take no such pledge. However, I'll abide by the rules just enough not to get suspended or banned.
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blutofish1
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I'm still in. Thanks Kip
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jcavenagh
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and not just while posting here...
Interesting story...
My wife and I are not very religious folks. We used to be church going Roman Catholics, but for a variety of reasons, we left that organization about 30 years ago. We have been asked, "How can you teach your children to be good people when you abandon your faith?"
I think we've done OK in that department.
Recently, our youngest child, now a college freshman, was presented with a situation at school that required him to make a significant choice about his future. Things were apparently happening in his chosen department that he felt were immoral and unacceptable. Now he could have made a big stink and filed grievances, etc. But he felt that doing so could injure the reputations and careers of some folks who might not have been involved. He chose to make a few quiet, private statements and then he withdrew from the program. Now he will have a significantly different career than he originally planned.
He chose dignity and respect even at his expense.
I am so damn proud of that young man I could just about bust!
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missmolly
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Hey, GrouseGuy, you sound like a guy who likes to grouse! ;-)
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Frenchy
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I’m with you.
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jimbocr1167
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I'm in. Amen
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billconner
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Thought this deserves a bump. I try to think about this each time I click submit here.
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HangLoose
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I'll renew my vows.
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schweady
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I signed up here 15 years ago this past week.
Good enough time as any to say, "I do." Again.
Thanks, Kip.
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woodsandwater
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I'm in. Again. This needs to be our place of refuge from all the craziness out there.
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BearBurrito
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I will renew my vows on this.
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RunningFox
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I’ll try to do better. I never meant to burn any bridges.
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boonie
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Always a good reminder. Thanks for the bump.
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WIMike
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I'm in.
I got all the way to the posts about Packers fans before I realized the thread was over a decade old. Wouldn't be a bad idea to revive this thread every year.
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bfurlow
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Count me in again.
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fadersup
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Renewing my vows.
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Stormy
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I have not been here in a very long time. I remember when Kip first posted this, it sure seems like so long ago in a very different time. Seeing the posts from people I used to interact with every night, especially the ones who are no longer with us... wow. Emotional.
Absolutely on board now, as then, but the squabbles that would arise from time to time, which caused Kip to post this, were so mild compared to today's world.
Hello again to all the old friends and to all of today's members. This is one great place.
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mgraber
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I'm all in!
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LoopyLoons
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I'm in. This site has helped me plenty. Have even purchased my beautiful canoe from a member.
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MississippiDan
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Just do it.
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wannabeoutthere
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Count me in.
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Woods Walker
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Count me in on this !!!
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FOG51
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Brad thanks a whole bunch. FRED
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Spartan2
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Whenever one of these "bumps" comes up I realize that even though I think I read a lot on this site, I must miss a lot, too. Didn't realize that there had been any conflicts. Hope it wasn't anything too serious, and that hurt feelings have healed.
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bobbernumber3
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Aw hell... I'm gonna stay the same as I am and not pledge to be any different. I just upped my yearly contribution $5 to cover any insults or hurt feelings inflicted on others from my thoughful posts!
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