Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Solo Tripping :: High Energy food for the long haul?
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jwartman59 |
If I recall correctly you are Native American? Several years ago in South Dakota we bought a bunch of pemmican. If you are looking for a huge jolt of long lasting energy and want to avoid processed foods you might look into this. It’s what the voyageurs ate. This is a link to Tanka bar , made by Oglala Lakota. Happy to give a plug for a quality product. We ate these backpacking in Yellowstone. |
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HayRiverDrifter |
LindenTree3: "Minnesotian: " Seems suspiciously similar to fruit cake you see around Christmas :-) "Logan bread is a dense quick bread full of dried fruits and nuts. Named after Mount Logan in the Yukon, Logan Bread’s delicious taste, high calorie content, indestructibility, and non-perishability" |
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mjmkjun |
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muddyfeet |
I might be able to help: Last year I brought too much food by about 15% per day (and 2.5 days of extra food because I finished ahead of schedule), but took inventory and notes on what I actually consumed vs planned. I will stop short of sharing my overly-detailed spreadsheets, as I think part of the challenge is figuring all that out for yourself. Amongst the paddlers there were vastly different meal plans and cooking styles. Use your experience, and test things out as you train with some long-paddle days. But here are some rough tips on what I ate: 3500cal/day. 57% from carbs, 32% from fats, 11% from protein. Hot breakfast and dinner each day. (freezer-bag cooking). Good food while paddling is a combo of energy bars and nuts/m&ms/trail mix. Energy gel packets are relatively heavy for the calories they offer, but its nice to have a couple available for the times you are feeling really worn down and need a quick 100cal boost to make it another hour to two. Trail and ultra racers will often supplement carb intake and ensure electrolyte balance by mixing powders into your water (like powdered gatorade). For endurance sports, my stomach has seemed to tolerate Tailwind Nutrition. When training, I have always felt best after long workouts with either chocolate milk or a protein shake recovery (or a beer, but you may not have that available along the border). |
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LindenTree3 |
Minnesotian: " This stuff looks interesting, I'm not much of a breakfast guy and heating water for Oatmeal would still take time. I could have one of these for breakfast and another for later in the day. |
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Marten |
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TomT |
My dinners are freeze dried meals or noodles with dehydrated ground beef, steak, or chicken. On layover days I eat differently (eggs/bacon, cheese and meat sticks, fresh fish) |
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jdddl8 |
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mjmkjun |
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LindenTree3 |
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LindenTree3 |
I'm planning on doing the Voyageurs Canoe Challange from Crane Lake to Grand Portage solo this September. I am wondering if anyone has some advice on high energy snacks I can pack with me for this trip. I need to average nearly 40 miles per day or more depending on wind. I've read somewhere that people take peanut butter along, and eat it, any truth to that and any other ideas? Feel free to share. |
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boonie |
PB is good because it has a high calorie count per ounce - about 170 - same as nuts. Pure fat - oil, butter, etc. has the highest calorie count. The PB/Nuts calories are largely fat, plus some protein, and carbs, which makes it a pretty slow burning fuel. Sugar is what gives you that sudden burst, but is short-lived. I think a 3-1 mix of nuts and dried fruit (you know, GORP) might be better for what you are doing. The nuts would be easier for you to just grab a handful every so often. There are any number of drinks, gels, etc. that are used by endurance athletes. I have used the gels (lot of sugar) before late in a marathon for a quick burst of energy, but the sugar is not a long burning carb. Of course there are always M&M's or Fig Newtons for that, too. |
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whitecedar |
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giddyup |
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treehorn |
I don't get deep into the science behind it, but during those I live on: trail mix, pb & jelly sandwiches, Balance bars, hard boiled eggs, bananas, & some candy and/or those energy gummy things. And lots of water. |
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AmarilloJim |
boonie: "High energy or quick energy . . . ? +1 Very easy to eat while paddling also |
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Minnesotian |
I recommend making Logan Bread: Logan Bread And a history of it: Logan Bread tips I personally have not made it, but I am making some for my trip in August. I normally bring Cliff Bars but this time around I want to bring something that isn't as processed, and plus I like rye flour. By adding or subtracting ingredients, I hope to get each bars calorie load in the 300 range. |
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HappyHuskies |
Not saying you want to use it, just something else to check out. Definitely take a variety of things. Hard to know what will stay down and appeal to you until you get out there. Good luck and have, dare I say it, fun! |
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TomT |
GraniteCliffs: "The Gatorade gel packs are helpful for me when I am spent near the end of a long day but want to go another hour or two. A little bump in energy that pushes me for a while. Of course, this is followed by the sugar drop crash and burn feeling an hour or two later when it is time to set up camp. " I've learned to save energy for setting up camp at the end of a long day paddling. It doesn't feel much like a vacation when setting up camp about to pass out. |
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mjmkjun |
LindenTree3: "Just letting everyone know I appreciate all the feed back I have gotten regarding this thread, I will definately be using many of your suggestions, and will tell you what I ate/drank and how it worked out for me." Looking forward to reading that trip report. Details, details, details. |
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BAWaters |
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