Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Solo Tripping :: 1st BWCA trip - late August
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BuckSgt2034 |
When discussing my route plan, he did offer the tow up to American Point so that I could avoid the big lake wind and save some time. From what I'm hearing, I think I'll be glad I did. I am also renting the entire package through them, but will be bringing my own fishing pole (telescopic for travel) and very little else. Is there anything that would be a "must have" item for a good trip? I don't want to carry a lot of crap around that I won't use, but would like to afford myself at least one luxury item...just don't know what that item may be. I am concerned about boredom while being out there, but hope to keep myself as busy as possible to combat it. I'm somewhat experienced with the outdoors through my time in the Marine Corps, but still have some anxiousness as to what all to expect. Thanks again for your input! |
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bhouse46 |
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minnmike |
I would talk to the outfitter and ask them if the gear they provide will suit single or double portaging. Also ask them if there will be enough room in a pack for the gear you are planning to bring. This is not there first rodeo, they have great advice and will be more than happy to help you out with questions. I highly doubt they will load you down with unnecessary gear. |
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HappyHuskies |
BuckSgt2034: " Since I'm not driving my personal car up there (not enough time), I guess I'm concerned that by getting the full package outfitting, I'll be overloaded with gear and won't have the capacity to carry a few small things that I want to bring. I understand the concern, but I think everything will be fine and you'll have plenty of room for you personal gear. The outfitters up here use good quality gear and canoes. You'll have a comfortable camp that will probably include a few things you might not bring, but it'll be reasonable. Glad you're looking forward to your trip. I don't blame you. I've been able to get out to the BWCA several times this winter, but now I'm really looking forward to soft water season. Hoping to get in a backpacking trip before ice out and then a short paddle trip soon after. August will be here in the blink of an eye and it's a great time of the year. Warm water and the bugs have usually tapered off. The area around Clearwater Lodge is spectacular. You should have a great trip! |
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boonie |
I'd guess you'll have at least 100 lbs. total to carry. My stuff for a 12-day solo in Sept. 2016 was about 85 lbs., but I pack lighter food and equipment, and less of it. I don't take fishing gear. I just can't safely manage that at awkward portage landings and long rough trails. I believe most people who single portage have everything in one pack, which has to be low enough not to interfere with the canoe that's on your shoulders. You'd also have to have everything not in the pack strapped to the canoe. Trying to unpack/repack would be more trouble than it's worth. I have two packs - one larger, one smaller. I carry the smaller one with the canoe. My routine at the portage is to make sure the canoe is secure, carry the large pack, the PFD, and the paddle well off to the side out of the way of others. Then I attach the yoke to the canoe (with spare paddle strapped in), put on the small pack, lift the canoe and carry to the other side where I put it out of the way. Then I return for the second load. That trip is a good time for snacking, drinking water, and taking pictures. I agree that you'd be better off to plan double portaging on your first trip, especially not really knowing the equipment packing nor being familiar with the area and the process. Sample less than smooth ankle-breaker portage - Long Island to Muskeg Creek. It is short though. Don't worry - they aren't sending you across this one. |
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boonie |
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hobbydog |
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gravelroad |
The Singing Wilderness Not a guide to paddling so much as a guide to the soul for paddlers. Once you've read it, you will most likely want to continue reading Sigurd Olson's stuff: Books by Sigurd Olson AFTER that, read: A Wilderness Within: The Life of Sigurd F. Olson |
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TomT |
boonie: "You're not the only one who is excited; I've done maybe 15 trips and I still get excited about it - I'm pretty sure I'm not the only other one here :). I like the planning and thinking about, dreaming and anticipating. " I got out my maps last night for......my 2020 trip!! :) Yes, anticipation is THE BEST emotion for sure. |
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BuckSgt2034 |
I'm so freaking excited about this trip even though I'm 5 months out! I keep wishing it was sooner. It's been a rough year for me personally, so this trip planning is definitely helping to re-focus my energy on something positive. |
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TomT |
gravelroad: "If you haven't done so already, get thee a copy right now of "The Singing Wilderness," the book that has launched a gazillion BWCA trips: Yes, a chair, a great book and a weather radio. That will cover any windy or rainy days. Btw, make sure to bring a tarp. The Singing Wilderness is a book I brought on a trip long ago. I’ve read that one twice so far. |
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TomT |
bhouse46: "My input on the comfort item is a chair. Lots of ideas on what is best, but a good chair is much better than a log any night. My helinox sunset is important enough to pack in when I backpack, of course it goes with me in the canoe. " I was thinking this same thing. I bought a helinox sunset chair this winter. A small am/fm radio with a weather band is useful too. Search in the Gear forum here. Lots of threads about what radio to bring. Welcome to the club! |
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boonie |
Ask as many questions as you think of and you'll get lots of (sometimes conflicting) opinions. Everybody has one and will be happy to share it. Have you decided on a route yet? |
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BuckSgt2034 |
I don't mind making double portages, but if it were at all possible, I'd like to minimize it. Just trying to get an idea of which process would be smoothest...I also plan on having a "day pack" that I can carry with me from base camp days as I get out and wander. Thanks again for all of your input! |
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boonie |
pswith5: "One thing you might want to bring is your own pfd. I am guessing an outfitters would be be basic. I like something with good pockets. To carry certain items you want handy while moving. " I got my own PFD after a few trips and I got one with lots of pockets to hold my "ditch kit" items. I also use them and shirt/pants pockets to hold things I want handy - lunch, snacks, bug juice, headnet, buff/bandana, camera, compass, sunscreen, lip balm, etc. |
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boonie |
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HappyHuskies |
Anyway, I only use one pack that I place behind my seat and trim the canoe with the sliding seat. My extra paddle is tied into the boat in front of me. When I get to a portage I step into the water, tie my paddle to the front of the canoe opposite my spare paddle, take off my pfd and place it under the top flap of my pack, slide the seat all the way to the back, fasten my yoke to the boat just in front of the bulkhead, put on my pack and pick up the boat and head off down the portage. I try and pack light and have a relatively light canoe which helps. You've got a great trip planned. Should be a lot of fun. Don't hesitate to change plans on the fly as circumstances dictate. |
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boonie |
Even though you are getting the full outfitting package, there are still a lot of things you'll need to bring so I'd suggest you work on creating a checklist. There are also things they may provide that you may decide to leave behind rather than carry. There are quite a few threads on the forum about checklists and a search for that will yield quite a lot of information. If you make one and share it, people will be happy to offer their suggestions, and many will send theirs if you want. I'm completely self-outfitted now other than the canoe so am not familiar with what they provide and don't. They will check everything they are sending out with you and rarely is there a problem, but I'd double check everything myself. And make sure you know how everything works. One thing 'd suggest you consider even if you don't want to set and tear down camp every day, is to consider doing it 2-3 times while returning by a different route to give yourself a more complete experience. You can make the final decision out there. I don't worry too much about boredom, although many people do. I'm more easily amused than most and find boredom to be a novel and interesting experience. ;) I'd suggest you bring a journal to write down thoughts, experiences, things that worked, didn't work, things you might do differently next time. Yeah, you'll want to do it again. Journaling also keeps you busy as well as being useful. Get a small point and shoot camera that fits in a shirt pocket It's convenient for snapping pictures that will give you a record and it's also something to occupy your mind/time. |
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bhouse46 |
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pswith5 |
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lindylair |
Some random thoughts: Single or double portage? I would recommend double portaging. Single is faster. Double is smarter and safer. Enjoy the walk back after the first trip and really look at the woods. No hurry. If possible, have your outfitter include a gravity water filter system as opposed to a hand pump system. Soooo much better. Always wear your PFD on the water. Bring a spare paddle. Attach a painter rope to the front of your canoe and always tie it off when you stop. You don't want the feeling of watching your canoe drift away in the middle of nowhere. A lightweight chair will add comfort (since you are double portaging anyways) I often basecamp these days but many soloists say they get bored if they have too much time. Consider a mix of layover days and travelling days. Rigging a tarp to sit under in less than ideal weather and keep your gear dry will add great comfort if you happen to get a trip with a lot of rain. Navigation is not difficult up there but can occasionally be confusing. The key to not getting lost is to stay found. Watch your map constantly and note landmarks, always know roughly where you are. It is surprising how many experienced trippers are off in their calculations if not watching closely, usually overestimating how far they have travelled. Be ready for bugs. Late August means they should be much less of an issue than earlier but nature sets its own rules. You never know. Assuming you will be renting a Kevlar canoe, you should be prepared to wetfoot meaning stopping in 6-10 inches of water and stepping(carefully) out of the canoe. The shoreline rocks up there can tear up a canoe. I am sure your outfitter will include a small stove for cooking. Wouldn't plan on doing much cooking over the fire, maybe that first night's steak! Most campsites will have firewood available if you go back a ways...dead and down only. Wisemen stick to the rule of wrist size or smaller, negates the need for a hatchet or an axe. A small folding saw can be handy. Remember that you are in a near wilderness setting. Safety is paramount, on the portages and on the water. While there will be people around somewhere most of the time, they may not be within sight or shouting distance. Be more deliberate than usual about the things you do and the decisions you make. There may be nobody around to help. Having said that, driving the highways in our country is probably more dangerous. Wear your (wilderness decision making) seatbelt. You will have many questions, we enjoy answering them. Ask away. Consider writing a trip report for us to enjoy upon your return. August will be here before you know it. |
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minnmike |
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Jaywalker |
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BuckSgt2034 |
Already started the packing process...got several lures already tied to leaders and getting waterproof boxes for electronics, etc. Can you tell I'm looking forward to it? |
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gravelroad |
minnmike: Also, most "basecampers" bring more camp comfort and fishing gear than "travelers" typically do. I haven't taken a poll on this, but I'm betting that far more basecampers triple or even quadruple portage than single portage. " Why else would humans have evolved the ability to manufacture cast iron cookware? It ain't a shore lunch less'n it's been cooked on cast iron. Just sayin'. ;-) (The real question is whether to bring a frying pan AND the griddle. The Dutch oven is de rigueur, of course ...) |
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BuckSgt2034 |
My plan is to get to the Knife Lake area as quickly as possible, then maybe establish a base camp to set out from and return to. Would that be feasible? Just don't want to have to set up and tear down camp on a daily basis. Thanks |
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BuckSgt2034 |
So much so, that, yesterday, I booked a solo trip (7 nights) through Clearwater Historic Lodge that will take place in late August. My entry point is # 55 on August 19. I AM BEYOND STOKED!! I enjoy reading all of the great stories, experiences, and information and I'm sure I'll wear you guys out with questions as they arise. Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Chad |
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boonie |
You'll want to take 3 pair of wool socks - one for traveling, one for camp, one for sleep. Also a pair of dry camp shoes to change into with the dry camp socks. Many of us pack a set of sleep clothes - base layer, socks, cap - with our sleeping bag in a waterproof compression stuff sack. Don't forget things like sunglasses, hats, bandanas/buffs, gloves (paddling, camp), etc.. |
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Jaywalker |
Two things I will say about double carrying; it lets you bring just a few more items of gear which may add to both comfort and safety, and, more importantly, it allows you to actually see the land you are portaging through which is beautiful. When I'm under my canoe, I'm mostly just picking each footstep trying to avoid roots and rocks, but on the walk back I can really take a look around me. I may not cover quite the distance of a single portageur, but for me the BWCA is about the journey every bit as much as the destination. |
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primitiveguy |
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minnmike |
I would just keep an open mind and remember it your trip, your time, all your planning so do whatever you feel like doing when you get up each day. If you hadn't already went thru Clearwater I would have suggested Voyageur Outfitters for going out EP55 as they are right there literally so you can get an early start and beat the wind if you plan to paddle Sag. They can outfit you, have plenty of over night options, and can provide a tow to American Point of Sag if it is windy on your entry date. You don't want to be paddling across Sag if it is. I don't mean to dissuade you from Clearwater and I do not work for VO or anything, I am just saying this because of the convenience of being at your EP. I am actually staying at Clearwater for my June trip as that is my EP. |