Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Solo Tripping :: Thinking about my first Solo - could use some advice.
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Blatz |
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Nigal |
Do you have a spot or inreach unit? That might be a good investment. |
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Cricket67 |
I'm fairly used to doing just about all the camp duties myself anyway so that is not a huge concern. I'm leaning towards simplifying my meals to consist mostly of "add hot water to bag, eat out of bag" type dinners to minimize the amount of cookware/dishes I need to haul. Figure I'd skip my normal shore lunch fish dinner and instead do the wrapped in foil approach over the fire, or just go catch and release only. Also debating back and forth between tent and hammock sleeping. Need to set up my hammock system in the back yard a few nights and try it out...once the heat index drops to some semblance or reasonable. My wife probably won't let me know without an InReach or Spot. Need to do some more research there. |
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jillpine |
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Wayouttroy |
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boonie |
Work on the conditioning between now and then. You'll know after the 2nd day how you're doing and what it will take to finish. I googled it once long time ago, but I'm pretty sure it was about 9 miles parking lot to parking lot 16 to 14. Options: You can run/jog/walk it, stash a bike at 16, or pay to have someone follow you to 16, drop your car, and take you to 14. That way you only pay once (it's a long drive) and your on your time to finish. Lodging options are bunkhouse or motel; I've done both. I've used Voyageur North (bunkhouse) and Piragis (no bunkhouse) and both have a done a good job for me. I've stayed at probably 3 motels there and all satisfactory. Other thoughts: The water will likely be cold and a dump solo could be troublesome. Watch the weather and don't get too far from shore if it's windy. Have a good ditch kit, keep it handy, and consider putting a couple of large chemical heat packs in it (quicker and easier than building a fire, especially in adverse conditions). |
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billconner |
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tomo |
After all these years of tandem, I've been intrigued and reinvigorated by solo paddling. Fun learning curve, but not hard to be efficient, even in wind and waves. Having said that, with double tripping portaging and the work inherent in soloing (paddling and otherwise), I find at my age I can't go hard all day long. I get played out by afternoon. For short solo trips, I've been enjoying dehydrated meals, cooking on the Bushbuddy twig stove or my alcohol stove, and reveling in the sounds of birds and the play of light on water, which you get so much more of soloing. Anyway, of all trips I yearn to have more soloing, though I don't like the loneliness/aloneness of the tent at night. Other than that, I find soloing to be so freeing. |
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jcavenagh |
Less wind and a very quiet experience on the water. With a partner in the boat a little wind is no issue. But alone it can be more difficult in a sidewind or headwind. (And isn't it always a headwind??) |
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Jaywalker |
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mjmkjun |
Not everyone experiences it but safe to say most do. About day two...maybe day three...moments of longing for familiar friends/fellow campers. Longing for sharing & fireside chats. Loons with their haunting cries might bring it on. A nip of medicinal whiskey. Deep breath. It's gone. Carry on. :) A book, then. |
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jillpine |
Spare paddle InReach Ditch kit that sits in my life vest pocket monocular, also in my life vest as well Rope on both bow and stern. Getting used to the 24# canoe in terms of not letting it bang on rocks in the waves, stowing it really good, with strong ropes and good knots. Knowing knots. Wet footing 100%. Safer, more efficient, faster. Those are some things I have found especially useful that I learned on the fly. I don't use fire as I do when I'm with another partner paddling. Don't eat as much. And don't particularly enjoy fishing when I'm on a solo trip. Enjoy it alone as a day event but it still makes me feel lonesome when paddling solo. If that makes sense. My ditch kit has a foil blanket, life straw, cotton balls in Vaseline in a pill vial, matches, and a small bright light source for signaling. My life jacket shoulder strap is where the inReach sits. The zipper has a whistle and also a small compass. The other pocket has sunscreen, bug dope, spare cheap eyeglasses, and a small sharp knife clipped to it. This all makes sense for group travel as well, but I guess the difference is that I would not like to be paddling solo without any of the above. |
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Wayouttroy |
cowdoc: "The latter" +1 |
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Jaywalker |
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egknuti |
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Cricket67 |
Thoughts? |
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cowdoc |
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Cricket67 |
OK, I think I have my route. For whatever reason clockwise seemed to make sense buy now I am thinking CCW. Then I will be hitting Shell/Lynx/Ruby/Oyster during the week and will be further north going through GeBe, Pocket, Finger, Thumb, Beartrack, etc when the Memorial weekend hits. Does this make sense? Is there any other reason to go one way or the other? |
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Cricket67 |
I plan to leave work a little early on Tuesday the 25th and drive up to Ely that evening and get as early as start as possible on Wednesday morning. I have played around with different routes but I'm leaning towards one that will take me up Pauness into Loon, through Slim and Fat continuing onto Beartrack. From there I would move onto Pocket and then either drop down through GoBe and through Oyster to Nina Moose, exiting at EP 16 or a route to take me through LLC and Agnes on the way to EP16. Target is to reach EP16 around or just after noon on Monday, May 31st. Total would be about 53 miles in 5 1/2 days. Total portage distance between 1550-2000 rods. I figure I would be traveling 4.5 to 6.5 hours each day. Three Questions for all you fine people - 1. Thoughts on this route? Is it a little too ambitious? I am an experienced 50 something in pretty average condition. 2. I will need a place to stay Tuesday night, rent a solo canoe, and possibly arrange drop-off and pickup. any suggestions? 3. Is anyone else going to be in this area at that time? Wouldn't mind a little company somewhere along the route or even sharing a campsite one night. |
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OCDave |
Cricket67: "... I am reasonably fit for a middle aged male but, I am a significantly stronger paddler after a couple weeks of paddling than when the I put the canoe in the lake for the first paddle of the spring. I have the same experience every year when the snow melts and I return to running again or biking again. Thirty years ago, I'd go hiking daily to break in a new pair of boots before a backpacking trip. Today, the shoes are ready to go out of the box but, it's my body that needs loosened up before the trip. Cricket67, while I don't know you nor your fitness level, the advice woud be the same: Don't be content with your current fitness level. Paddle your canoe as often as you can before your trip. Good Luck. |
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straighthairedcurly |
I really liked having a canoe paddle and a break apart kayak paddle. The kayak paddle was especially wonderful for windy days as it increased my level of control and decreased the effort needed. I found camp chores were actually less time consuming for me on the solo vs. a family trip. I rarely collected firewood. My food involved more "no cook" or "just add boiling water" meals compared to when I travel with family. With family I am resposible for repacking most of the packs each morning so it was much easier just having to pack my own small gear packs. Think about what entertains you. Sounds like you enjoy fishing. Since I don't fish, I focused on taking more pictures as well as journaling and reading. The alone time was not an issue for me in the evenings. But on long, hard portages (especially after I got injured) I definitely missed having companions to look after me. But I will definitely plan another solo for next summer. Enjoy! |
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Cricket67 |
Straighthairedcurly - I read your wonderful trip report. So much great information there! Like you I spend a good amount of time helping others when I go, so I'm not too concerned about the idea of not having help around camp. I also think I am going to simplify my meals considerably. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on paddles. I can usually handle a tandem Canoe alone with a regular paddle but can definitely see how helpful a kayak paddle would be in windy conditions. I like that they can also double as tarp poles. I do enjoy fishing but have been going back and forth on it because of the gear involved and to a lesser degree the added safety risk on a solo trip. In the end I think the value of having it as an activity outweighs the cost. While traveling the pole will be tied to the thwarts and the reel will be removed and packed away. I also plan on doing some journaling, will have a good book, and take plenty of pictures! egknuti - That is very similar to one of the routes I am considering (I'm calling it my internal route). What are your thoughts re Gun, Takucmich, Finger vs. Beartrack, Thumb, Finger? Also looking at an external start going through Loon and Lac La Croix before cutting down through Takucmich , Finger, Pocket, Gobe, etc. Tomo,jcavenagh - I have never used a line while traveling with the group but totally get the utility of using one as a solo. I also will be much more cautious with regards to wind. My general travel plan will be to getting going early, although I may take the time to heat some water for warm oatmeal and/or a warm drink (especially if it is cold/wet). I figure most days I will be traveling from just after sunrise until early afternoon with a break in there to have lunch. My goal would be to be pulling into a campsite by 2pm at the very latest. Time to get camp set up and maybe a quick nap in the hammock before late afternoon fishing. |
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Cricket67 |
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Cricket67 |
For this trip I am leaning towards hitting an unfamiliar area for a 4 or 5 night trip. I'm thinking 3-5 hours of travel per day (probably around 6-12 miles at my current fitness level) with enough cushion in case I get wind-bound a day. I'd like to find some Walleyes and Smallies along the way and have at least some solitude. Leaning towards double portaging, I have gotten some great ideas from trip reports as well as a general feel for what to expect on a solo. Really appreciate everyone out there sharing their experiences and knowledge! |
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Minnesotian |
Well, since you haven't been on the Echo Trail ever, that would be my suggestion. Maybe look at Entry Point 16 Little Indian Sioux (LIS). I did a solo trip for a week out of there, going up to Loon Lake and making my way over Lac la Croix and back down to the entry point. Plenty of options for taking big water or smaller lakes and you can hit all the fish you want. Since you're experienced with the BWCA, the only thing that really stand out for me in group trips vs. solo is that everything takes longer. You have to portage everything. You have to set up the tent, tarp, get water, cook food and clean dishes. You have to catch the fish and clean them. Also, for me the big thing that I am aware of of all times is the wind and that's why I bring a small NOAA weather radio. Sure it tells me about storms, but more importantly it tells me how strong the wind will be and from which direction. The wind up there will really tell you how many miles you can canoe that day. |
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boonie |
There's no one to help with camp chores, so I try to simplify and reduce time required, as well as weight. You'll be carrying everything, so keep an eye on the weight of the two loads. There are lots of threads here discussing how to do things, what to take or not, and what to expect. There's a lot of variation in individual styles. |
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jcavenagh |
I eat less and I finish eating much quicker. Yes, fires are smaller. I usually have a cooking fire and then a small little fire to drowse me at the end of the day. |
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egknuti |
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boonie |
I go with the very simple meal plan - I've discovered that meals are not a social occasion when I'm solo, just fueling up. Definitely take the double blade paddle as well as the single - you need a spare paddle anyway. It's a good idea to lash it in. I gave up on fishing solo a few years after I started soloing in 2006. It was more work than it was worth to me and I lost 5-6 pounds of gear, which means I can carry 5-6 days more food for longer solos. I rarely ever build a fire anymore when I'm solo and when I do it's small. I also usually am on a campsite by early afternoon. That's the nice thing about a solo - you can do what you want, how and when you want to. Take whatever's worth carrying to you. Nobody will complain. My first solo was the loop from LISN through Slim, Steep, Finger, Gebe, Oyster, and out MRN. I really enjoyed those small lakes through there. Hope you have a good trip! :) Enjoy yourself. |