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wetcanoedog
08/28/2010 02:43PM
 
all or some/most of the above--but i learned not to make a big plan and then try and stick to it no matter what.i spent the winter on Google Earth and looking over maps and such setting up a solo around all the back bays of LLC and Coleman Island.the weather was so unstable i ended up camping more than traveling.BUT-- from the movie i made loading up the car at the LIS parking lot you would have thought i had the best trip ever..just being out was good enough.
 
612er
02/23/2011 01:29PM
 
Most thing have been covered and I agree with just about all. However, on my first solo I decided (and stuck with) the notion of no booze on solo trips. I do enough stupid stuff on my own and am lucky to have people around me on group trips. When I am going solo, I don't bring the booze. I can find better ways to enjoy the night and it keeps me from tumbling over a rock, falling into the fire, etc.
 
eagle93
08/28/2010 07:47AM
 
Oldgentleman,


I also have some hearing lose. It does make the night easier.


A layover day is fine too. Afterall, it is your trip and only your's, so do as you please. Isn't that why we solo?
 
oldgentleman
08/28/2010 05:43AM
 
I hate to disagree with anybody as experienced as Bannock or as assertive as Kanoes. After many trips with my son Josh, whose motto is "Sure, we can still cover another 5 miles today" the number 1 thng I learned on a solo is:


1. I'll take a layover day or three whenever I feel like it.
2. I take a lot more pictures when I'm alone.
3. I spend a lot more time watching wildlife.
4. What ever I fix for supper is good enough.
5. If I leave the flask in the car it doesn't matter that much.
6. Every evening by the fire I feel lonely and miss my wife.
7. Every morning when I get up I have a feeling of euphoria.
8. I wonder why none of my old friends will camp anymore. (wimps!)
9. I worry less when I'm alone.
10.Since my hearing has deteriorated it's not as scary to sleep alone in the woods.
 
Exo
11/17/2010 09:00PM
 
Ahhh, great post. OK, learning my first solo....


1. Bring more than 1 pen, better yet, bring something non-mechanical like a pencil.
2. Practice your portage routine before your first solo.
3. Don't be afraid to triple-carry over the small stuff.
4. A little alcohol and a small fire do wonders for the soul.
5. Pack something besides dehydrated and forgettable.
6. Don't pack to much food or clothing, but do pack a hammock.
7. Fish more, paddle less.
8. Camera gear is heavy.
9. Leave the GPS at home.
10. Pack sunscreen and bugspray in something that won't trigger either in your pack.


My trip report is almost done :)
 
butthead
08/26/2010 09:24AM
 
Hanging a tarp just right can take up lots of time! My way of burning up time on a layover day.
A book or 2 also helps, as does being generally lazy.
Paddling in the mist, early in the morning, is surreal.
Solo is the way to learn camp baking, only you know/suffer the failures!


butthead
 
SevenofNine
01/24/2011 07:31AM
 
1. Mittens really keep your hands warm when it rains in October, May September.
2. A quality rain jacket with hood is a must.
3. It's better to move everyday to keep myself busy.
4. I don't need to get going super early because I enjoy the morning in camp.
5. Bringing less real food cuts weight considerably.
6. Packing my reading material in a waterproof bag is a must.
7. A good fire is a must.
8. A kayak paddle AND a canoe paddle or vice versus are both necessary.
9. Bailing early brings regrets.
10. A chair is a must for me.
 
buffalodick
11/22/2010 07:54PM
 
I'm 62 and have been to the BWCA many times, but I did my first solo this past July. I entered at Moose Lake and my route was to take me through the Moose Lake chain to Birch Lake and on to Knife Lake and points beyond and returning through Ensign for a total of about 62 miles. I aborted the trip at day three because one of my connecting maps was not in my pack where it had been the day I left home. When I returned to my truck at the entry point I found the map laying on the front seat. I had been looking it over the previous night and just laid it on the seat and forgot to put it back in my pack. This little oversight prevented me from completing what would have been a very fun expedition. Lesson learned-Check gear again before leaving the landing!!!


Dick
 
mooseplums
08/28/2010 07:13AM
 
quote Amok: "quote jdevries: "Be even more careful when on untraveled routes. I was a long way from anyone last year and sunk a treble hook in my thumb and could not get it out. Paddling and carrying a canoe were now out of the question. Now what?"



Maybe a small sidecutter, to cut off the lure, which would hopefully enable you to remove the rest of the hook. Now I'm paranoid and am going to toss one of those into my first aid kit! I've fished all my life, and I've only seen a hook in someone once: my uncle last year (he'd been fishing all his life too and that was the first time, ever, he'd been hooked! By himself, no less)"




Use barbless hooks
 
SunCatcher
08/22/2010 04:31PM
 
* Canoes make a nice table
* PFD works well to prop up pillow
* There is a right and wrong way to set up a tarp
* I hate GORP
* Beef Sticks are awesome in Kraft Mac and Cheese
* Cutting wood is work but fire makes you feel much more secure.
* The Stars are so close you can almost touch them
* The wilderness can be deadly quiet for HOURS! Could here a pin drop
* Storms can come up FAST and go just as FAST
* Dehydrated Hamburger ROCKS
* Dehydrated Strawberries Rock
* Finding your first Pictograph is moving
* You don't know how much you drink till you pump it all yourself
* It pays to be organized in the pack
* Big portages should be saved for 1st thing in am
* It's fun just to paddle around in the back bays of lakes
* Outdoors by yourself you have a lot of time to forget about "life"
and it is good for the soul.
* Nature can be gentle, kind, or Ornry.
* Always check the batteries in the Garmin B-4 you leave in the Morn.
* Maps and Compass and Garmin are INVALUABLE
* Paddling in wind all day can wear on you
* Putting on wet socks and shoes in am is bette then no shoes at all
* Titanium Cookware cleans up easy and is lite. I love it
* I like my ottertail paddle the best
* I brought too much food
* I brought too much gear
* Booze is Heavy
* Reading the Bible in the wild is a very moving experience.

Can you give some of your tips on what you all have learned like top ten or something?
Thanks,
SunCatcher
 
kanoes
08/22/2010 05:39PM
 
from my first solo, only two for me...


dont basecamp ever again.


take alot less food.
 
GSP
08/22/2010 04:58PM
 
1. I don't set a daily agenda or plan, just a direction.
2. I find myself tuned out and tuned into life at the same time.
3. Take 3 books, might read a page or all three.
4. Sometimes take wrapped candies to leave on packs for people coming out.
5. Take time to look at the bugs, they are fascinating, just don't block the portage.
6. I consider it good luck to rescue any dragonfly found in water. Some still die, but others will recover and provide escort against deerflies.
7. Mice and rabbits purposely make all the noise they can some nights.
8. I come back from every trip with more experience, knowledge and unanswered questions.
9. Where I go and how I travel is just fine, don't need a cruise director.
10. If I missed out this trip, I will find what I meant to find the next trip.
 
Jackfish
08/22/2010 08:34PM
 
Great idea for a thread, SC. For those of us who haven't soloed, all the words of wisdom can be accumulated to help that inaugural solo trip be more successful...when it happens.
 
PortageKeeper
08/22/2010 08:55PM
 
1 I get to decide when to go... where to go... what to eat... when to eat... when to rest, and for how long... what site to stay at (they all work when solo)... whether or not to have a fire... etc.
2 I take way better pictures when solo.
3 I get much more feelings of accomplishment when I've met my trip goals.
4 It's hard, when you want to say "Wow! Look at that", and there's nobody there to say it to.
5 Moose are much bigger when solo, when you're half way across a huge bog and you look up to see one fifty feet away from you.
6 Rushing things is dangerous, when solo. Trust your gut.



 
PortageKeeper
08/22/2010 09:17PM
 
quote kanoes: "from my first solo, only two for me...



dont basecamp ever again.



take alot less food."



I've been refining my menu for years and am finally getting brave enough to bring only 'the right amount of food'. After seven days in Woodland Caribou, I only had one breakfast and one lunch left. Of course, I did only lose five pounds.
 
jdevries
08/24/2010 11:22AM
 
Be even more careful when on untraveled routes. I was a long way from anyone last year and sunk a treble hook in my thumb and could not get it out. Paddling and carrying a canoe were now out of the question. Now what?
 
nctry
02/15/2011 07:05PM
 
I learned to check my campsite over multiple times after leaving not one but two flashlights at a campsite. This left me with no flashlights.


Wear sock liner when wetfooting. Did most of the ten days with nasty sores on the bottom of my feet. Carry Mole Skin too.


Your probably going to have to get your feet wet.


Bring maps of possible alternate routes and possibly a back up set of maps.


It is the greatest feeling to complete a good solo trip. You can say I did it vs we did it.


I think it was Sun Catcher who said something about the quiet of WCPP. I noticed that too. It was sort of erie but cool.


Oh, and don't leave paddles strapped in canoe while transporting them no matter how close you live to the BW. Half of a yak paddle just doesn't do it. Luckily I had two bent shafts. Dang, that was a carbon fiber paddle.
 
Amok
08/24/2010 02:36PM
 
quote jdevries: "Be even more careful when on untraveled routes. I was a long way from anyone last year and sunk a treble hook in my thumb and could not get it out. Paddling and carrying a canoe were now out of the question. Now what?"


Maybe a small sidecutter, to cut off the lure, which would hopefully enable you to remove the rest of the hook. Now I'm paranoid and am going to toss one of those into my first aid kit! I've fished all my life, and I've only seen a hook in someone once: my uncle last year (he'd been fishing all his life too and that was the first time, ever, he'd been hooked! By himself, no less)
 
jdevries
08/25/2010 10:51AM
 
It was a Rapala that was originally attached to a fish lip. I had a small Leatherman type tool with a wire cutters in the pliers attachment with me so I thought I was prepared. Turns out it was embedded so deep and the shank of the hook small enough that I could not get the cutters in there to do the 'cut and push through' trick. I ended up getting it out using a hook removing tool attached to the shank, then pushing down hard on the hook and pulling it out the way it went in. Not sure what I would have done if that didn't work.



 
Merganser
08/25/2010 08:33PM
 
Ouch. Makes be glad I've decided not to bother with fishing tackle on future solos.


Travel everyday. I did a lay over day on my first solo, too much down time for me.


Travel early, maybe not as early as Bannock but before 7 for sure. Tried to be making camp by 1PM at the latest. It's hot enough by then...


It's impossible not to bring to much food. I was conservative last time and still brought a bunch back. Of course it was hot and my appetite wasn't good in the afternoons. I lost a pound a day.


It is possible to bring too much booze. Some of you won't believe that.



 
PineKnot
08/27/2010 07:46PM
 
My top ten things I learned soloing over the years:


10. A digital voice recorder sure saves time compared to a journal and you have someone to listen to if you get a little stir crazy or lonely (a soccer ball can work too).
9. A kayak paddle on your solo can make a big difference, especially into the wind.
8. Lightweight merino wool long undies and long-sleeve t-shirts really take the chill out of cold nights
7. A microfleece blanket has 3 roles: butt pad, a soft pillow case, and who knew, a blanket
6. Thin crust pizza with pepperoni, tomatoes, mushrooms, and mozarella cheese is REALLY good from a reflector oven
5. Good quality raingear is a must
4. Bring at least 2 rods if you like to fish on solos…broke one this year for the first time in 37 years, but had a spare
3. Two tarps are better than one
2. Wetfooting is so much easier on portages compared to trying to keep your boots dry on portages


And the number one thing I’ve learned soloing over the years….


1. Don’t drink too much around the campfire in the dark without a headlamp or flashlight…you just might fall in the water the next time you have to pee…

 
rlhedlund
02/10/2011 04:06PM
 
Make sure to check you have lighter and/or matches before you leave. Make sure you have more than one lighter.
 
labman
02/12/2011 03:04PM
 
Don't be too cocky. The BWCA will rock you when you least expect it.
 
Jeriatric
02/12/2011 06:24PM
 
I learned that it may be hard to get in as much fishing as I had imagined.
 
TomT
02/12/2011 05:44PM
 
quote labman: "Don't be too cocky. The BWCA will rock you when you least expect it. "


Very well said. Respect the wind and the power of a strong current. Going solo its easy to become wind bound away from camp without packs in the canoe.



 
KevinL
02/12/2011 08:25PM
 
quote Jeriatric: "I learned to narrow the causes of the loud splashes next to my campsite down to two. Either it is a beaver slapping its tail and diving underwater....or it's Bigfoot throwing rocks to warn me away. After a splash, I find myself searching desperately for a beaver surfacing somewhere nearby."


Just read this to my son......he starts laughing saying he knows exactly what you mean. He was sitting gazing at the campfire
as I slept . Then came the loud slap.
 
kanoes
08/22/2010 10:25PM
 
im going to nail the food thing in september....its a goal of mine. ive lost 10 lbs before. of course, the beer put it back on in no time. :)
 
mooseplums
08/23/2010 09:43AM
 
quote kanoes: "from my first solo, only two for me...



dont basecamp ever again.



take alot less food."



I agree with this one...reduces the boredom.
 
Koda
08/23/2010 10:48AM
 
quote dl: "I learned how much stress I was keeping inside and how many internal knots there were inside me. You will be surprised by how different you feel and what your priorities 'should be' - certainly after your first solo."


Very well said.
After many solo trips, I'd say the most important lesson is to overcome the urge to bail out after only a few days. The lesson that dl mentions - and others like it - cannot be learned by running away.
 
dl
08/23/2010 09:32AM
 
I learned how much stress I was keeping inside and how many internal knots there were inside me. You will be surprised by how different you feel and what your priorities 'should be' - certainly after your first solo.
 
Jeriatric
08/23/2010 11:45AM
 
I turned 62 upon my exit from the BW on my first solo trip. I remember thinking, "I'm getting kind of old for this pushing, pushing, day after day in the rain. I think I'll try base camping next year." :-)
I did try it (base camping) the following year and I loved it. I was finally not too tired to fish.


The first solo, I realized I had too much food and gear for a traveling man.
The second solo, I realized that I was less likely to have taken too much stuff while I was base camping.
If there is a third solo, it will be a base camping trip. I will be 65 or older.
 
Bannock
08/23/2010 01:21PM
 
Travel everyday.
Get up early and be on the water by first light.
Have a cold breakfast, and save oatmeal for lunch.
Afternoon naps are good.
Paperbacks of the classics are good.
Always take a spare paddle.
Always tie your canoe when it's unattended.



 
eagle93
08/23/2010 04:46PM
 
A good cigar is a wonderful campfire companion.
I agree with Bannock, a nap is good.
Be careful!! Watch every step. I slipped on a portage the last weekend in October. Had I broken something major, no one would have come looking until I was overdue. Saw no one else the entire 4 days.
Always let someone know your itinerary. Dave Seaton at Hungry Jack always asks where I'm going and when I'm going to be back. He said that makes the SAR much easier.
 
solotrek
08/23/2010 01:33PM
 

Always break in your portage/paddle shoes well in advance of your trip.


There's no one to help you apply salve (I know... I'm old....)or bandages to badly blistered feet.


Go slowly enough to enjoy and remember what is around you because there's no one to talk about it with right now.
 
SunCatcher
11/17/2010 06:49AM
 
quote oldgentleman: "I hate to disagree with anybody as experienced as Bannock or as assertive as Kanoes. After many trips with my son Josh, whose motto is "Sure, we can still cover another 5 miles today" the number 1 thng I learned on a solo is:



1. I'll take a layover day or three whenever I feel like it.
2. I take a lot more pictures when I'm alone.
3. I spend a lot more time watching wildlife.
4. What ever I fix for supper is good enough.
5. If I leave the flask in the car it doesn't matter that much.
6. Every evening by the fire I feel lonely and miss my wife.
7. Every morning when I get up I have a feeling of euphoria.
8. I wonder why none of my old friends will camp anymore. (wimps!)
9. I worry less when I'm alone.
10.Since my hearing has deteriorated it's not as scary to sleep alone in the woods. "



Number five is bothering me...:) and I take a sat phone to let number six know I am ok. and need number 5. to forget about 6. and 7. Well that is EXACTLY how I feel.
 
Longpaddler
11/17/2010 08:04AM
 
I can relate to most all these words of wisdom


I will add:


-You can't have an intelligent conversation w/ a squirrel
-Always keep a pair of shorts handy in case a boat comes by
 
jdevries
11/17/2010 09:04AM
 
quote Longpaddler: "I can relate to most all these words of wisdom



I will add:



-You can't have an intelligent conversation w/ a squirrel
-Always keep a pair of shorts handy in case a boat comes by"




Disagree with the first one, in fact after 3 or 4 days of no human contact I've actually lost an argument with a squirrel. Second one? Been there done that.
 
boonie
11/25/2010 07:46PM
 
The #1 thing I learned is KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) -


I carry everything...and it weighs a bit more than half of a tandem load.


I do all the paddling...and I have the 3/4 of a tandem canoe with half the horsepower.


I do all the work - setting up and breaking down camp, landing, loading and unloading the canoe is harder solo, and there's the yoke to put on and take off. It's really a little more than twice as much work.


There's nobody to talk me into a bad decision...or out of one either. I make all the decisions and reap all the rewards. I make all the mistakes and suffer all the consequences.


I don't have to talk about anything I don't want to. The wilderness is a good listener and doesn't talk back. But it does communicate a lot.


Don't have too aggressive a trip plan and have to cover too many miles per day. The days are shorter in Sept and the weather will be a factor. You can travel north, east, and south and paddle into a headwind every day. And some days you can't paddle at all. Plan shorter days and a layover day or two.


I need to take Bannock's advice and get up earlier and be on the water earlier.


A weather radio would be handy. (This has been confirmed on subsequent trips)


I carried plenty of food in and...carried plenty of it back out, too.


GORP is essential (sorry SunCatcher)


Keep a journal, take lots of pictures.


It takes me three days to stop talking to myself...and three more to start again.



 
Koda
11/25/2010 10:22PM
 
boonie, VERY nicely said. :-)
 
butthead
11/26/2010 09:04AM
 
quote boonie: "quote Koda: "boonie, VERY nicely said. :-)"



Thanks, and I forgot one thing:



If your headlamp malfunctions on the first night of the new moon, you shall dwell in darkness for the week. Makes for an interesting trip to the latrine :). "



light the way to the latrine


butthead
 
boonie
11/26/2010 07:05AM
 
quote Koda: "boonie, VERY nicely said. :-)"


Thanks, and I forgot one thing:


If your headlamp malfunctions on the first night of the new moon, you shall dwell in darkness for the week. Makes for an interesting trip to the latrine :).
 
Jeriatric
12/21/2010 02:15PM
 
quote oldgentleman: "I hate to disagree with anybody as experienced as Bannock or as assertive as Kanoes. After many trips with my son Josh, whose motto is "Sure, we can still cover another 5 miles today" the number 1 thng I learned on a solo is:



1. I'll take a layover day or three whenever I feel like it.
2. I take a lot more pictures when I'm alone.
3. I spend a lot more time watching wildlife.
4. What ever I fix for supper is good enough.
5. If I leave the flask in the car it doesn't matter that much.
6. Every evening by the fire I feel lonely and miss my wife.
7. Every morning when I get up I have a feeling of euphoria.
8. I wonder why none of my old friends will camp anymore. (wimps!)
9. I worry less when I'm alone.
10.Since my hearing has deteriorated it's not as scary to sleep alone in the woods. "

I concur with the oldgentleman except for #5. The pre-bedtime whisky and cigar sure help me to feel comfy in the sleeping bag and has become a ritual.
Age is important in determining what is important.

 
BearBrown
12/17/2010 06:29PM
 
Cool thread. This wasn't a canoe trip, but rather back packing and camping along the manitou river.


1. Don't basecamp again. A layover day would be fine.


2. I need a pair of glasses for when I take out my contacts. The wilderness under moonlight is much more eerie when nearly blind.

3. The camera gear is a must but the tripod can stay home.

4. A book on survival and fire building skills is an interesting read when you can put the teachings to use.


5. Put the rain gear on when it begins to rain.


6. A good fire is comforting.


7. When you finally think you are alone the mice show up.


8. I hate peanut butter on corn tortillas with trail mix for dinner. Vomit.


9. My food may have been light, but everything else I brought wasn't.


10. Take the time to explore the details. There is a lot to find.


11. The sound of flowing water is relaxing on the mind when everything else has gone mute.


12. I need a lighter, warmer sleeping bag. Nights were cold, dark and long.
 
Beemer01
12/18/2010 08:41AM
 
I think the team has captured many key points - I'll echo a few...


1. Always be moving. I get bored basecamping anyhow, especially when solo!
2. I eat very little when soloing, so every year I pack less and still have food left over at the end. (Losing ten pounds on a 1 week trip is common for me)
3. Be very, very careful, especially when soloing in Quetico or on Crown Land in general. An impaled thumb, injured ankle or broken bone becomes very serious when you're on a seldom travelled route.
4. Take good books.
5. Drink lots of water.


Travel safely.




 
TomT
12/19/2010 06:26AM
 
This is a great thread.


One very expensive lesson I learned from a solo in 1988 is to always respect the power of moving water. The week I was in Quetico it rained A LOT. I was near Side Lake north of Prairie Portage and on my way out when I came to a portage that runs next to a small creek.


The water was very high now and instead of portaging my canoe (I had already took the packs over the portage) I had the brilliant idea to just float the creek in my empty canoe.


It was all going to plan until I got to the end where there was a drop of rushing water of about 2 feet. I remember grabbing a branch to stop myself and pondered what to do. My inexperienced, adventure loving brain decided to have me get out and let the canoe float over the drop by itself. I would then walk the portage and catch up to it in the backwater eddy. Sounded good at the time and I thought I was so smart not having to portage my canoe.


Well, as it turned out, there was a good sized rock right after the small drop that I didn't notice in all the turbulent water. The canoe made it over the drop just fine but then turned sideways and hung up on the rock. The force of the water now wrapped my canoe around the rock with a sick grinding and tearing sound.


This was my brand new fiberglass Sawyer Autumn Mist solo I had just paid $850 for a month before. So, in a panic I bullrushed my way to the canoe and pried with all my might to finally free it from the rock. I was heartbroken. There was a foot long L shaped gash in the stern side and the gunnels were bent really bad.


Luckily a couple was with me at the portage and agreed to let me ride in their canoe as we towed mine out behind it. It was humiliating to say the least as all kinds of people we met along the way gawked at us.


Yes my friends, there's a big lesson to be learned here. Don't take unecessary chances when on a canoe trip and especially when solo.




 
PineKnot
12/19/2010 09:24AM
 
Wow, TomT. That brings back one of my most harrowing experiences from a few years ago. Wasn't solo but with my then 15-yr old son returning from Poobah up the Maligne in late-June. The Maligne was
higher than normal and we struggled along the left side current to get to the portage below the second big rapids before Sturgeon. As we came though some slack water with a couple trees on our right, we paddled into a swift about 30 yards from the portage. We were just enough sideways that the current immediately grabbed the bow, jammed us sideways to the right and pinned us broadside against a tree. Luckily our royalex canoe didn't crumple in two or dump us right there. We slowly pried ourselves loose by pushing the bow into the current where it finally caught the current and whipped us around the tree and downstream. Of course, undaunted by the mightly Maligne, we turned around and slowly paddled upstream to try it again. This time we hit the swift a little straighter and after a minute or so of furious paddling we made it through and up to the take-out.


In retrospect, we probably risked way too much and should have bushwacked along the shoreline to the take-out, but we did survive.

 
wetcanoedog
12/19/2010 11:39AM
 
ok..i re-read the post title..it's your first solo and not the last you were on..so on the first and second for that matter was that as a adult you can't skip the tent and sleep under the canoe like you did in Scouts in the 1950's--
 
labman
02/12/2011 06:58PM
 
quote TomT: "quote labman: "Don't be too cocky. The BWCA will rock you when you least expect it. "



Very well said. Respect the wind and the power of a strong current. Going solo its easy to become wind bound away from camp without packs in the canoe.



"



Live and learned last year out of Brant lake. I portaged myself out of energy and only went 5 miles in versus an 18 mile loop. This included 2 wrong protages, with one being to a lake with no exit.I will do this trip again this year, with higher hopes and lower cockiness. I am just glad it didn't ruin my feelings about solo camping.



 
Jeriatric
02/12/2011 07:31PM
 
I learned to narrow the causes of the loud splashes next to my campsite down to two. Either it is a beaver slapping its tail and diving underwater....or it's Bigfoot throwing rocks to warn me away. After a splash, I find myself searching desperately for a beaver surfacing somewhere nearby.