Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Solo Tripping :: New Solo Canoe and Ka-yoke paddle
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Cloznuff |
" Kevin, is that you? Is that frame-world or 80-20 extrusion? Bryan " Yup Bryan it's me! I guess I owe you that beer now. I happened to know a guy in the Alexandria area that had some Frame World extrusion in his garage that he donated to the cause. I modded the yoke I had built a couple of years ago to also fit this canoe but I will still try the paddle yoke, which I think will work fine. The finished weight is 47#, 15'11" long. Here's a pic of the finished (for tonight) project. I haven't put it in the water yet and still plan to add a footbrace at some point. |
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Cloznuff |
The video I saw of the guy doing it had the 2 piece paddle taken apart and had it lashed like the attached pic. |
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hobbydog |
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Cloznuff |
I'm maybe putting the cart before the horse here as I haven't put the new canoe in the water yet, but does anyone have any recommendations for a 2 piece kayak paddle that I should look at? How about a length? I'm 6' and the canoe is 28" at the gunwales. I was looking at the Bending Branches Slice Solo. They make a 260 or a 280cm version. I don't want to spend a bunch to start out with and was even thinking about a super cheapy (although it would be too short to be a realistic paddling option) just to try out the yoke system a little. The Bending Branches would be in my price range if I knew what length I'd want and would be satisfied with the yoke system. I've used 2 canoe paddles before as a yoke on a 75 pound aluminum without the swimming noodles and I can't say I enjoyed it but it worked. |
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Alan Gage |
If you're not set on getting a double blade paddle you could do the same thing with two single blade paddles. Alan |
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Alan Gage |
The last wood removable solo yoke I make with Chosen Valley pads weighed about 2 pounds if I remember correctly. That's 32 ounces. The Bending Branches Slice paddle is listed at 39 ounces, which I'm guessing is for the 260cm model. Add the pool noodles to that. I guess if you're going to be carrying a double blade anyway it's not a bad idea. But otherwise it seems heavier, more expensive, more complicated, and less comfortable than a clamp-on yoke with pads. Alan |
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DeterminedOrange |
quote Cloznuff: "My seat is adjustable and will slide about 12" back of the Center of Gravity. The rear thwart is actually the point at which the seat adjustment ends and the front thwart I located as close as I thought possible when the seat is all the way forward as I like to hang a map from the front thwart. We are heading out of town for a family vacation so I won't be able to mess around with the yoke question for a couple of weeks but I appreciate all the input and will keep you posted. I have an adjustable clamp on yoke with pads I made for an aluminum canoe a few years ago that would be easy to modify to use for the new 'noe. In my mind, like I said, if I have 2 paddles anyway (2 singles or 1 single and 1 yak) maybe yokeless option would be viable since the canoe weight will be significantly less than I'm used to. Kevin, is that you? Is that frame-world or 80-20 extrusion? Bryan |
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1JimD |
At 47# and bouncing up and down a portage trail, I'd make a clamp on yoke . Breaking a paddle would not be good, way out in the bush ! Obviously you have some builder skills ! If done right it could double as a back rest. Jim |
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nctry |
quote hobbydog: "I would think it would be too easy to break one. If you trip or or stumble and put extra pressure on it could break. That is not how I would treat such an important piece of gear. " Kind of what I'm thinking. |
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jcavenagh |
That looks to be a mighty pretty boat! |
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jdevries |
I'll have to fiddle around a bit with these to see if I can get it to work. JD |
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jdevries |
JD |
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Cloznuff |
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jhb8426 |
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HighnDry |
quote bhouse46: "The visual helped, and yes breaking down a kayak paddle or using two single blades (always good to have the backup) in such a manner would work. The noodles could then go on the gunnel to soften knee rub. I doubt bungees would be secure enough but something like in the photo should work. Getting a good balance point might be an issue with thwart positioning a possible concern. " I'd agree with bhouse46 in terms of thwart positioning and your solo seat. The latter may likely be your balance point which means that you will need enough clearance between your head and the seat (or balance the boat on your head) to carry. The alternative is to move the center of gravity a bit forward so that the seat is effectively centered over your upper back or purchasing a solo yoke that lifts the boat high off your shoulders. The least expensive (and easiest) is try the double paddle set up at home with a couple of bungies wrapped around the thwarts and see where your balance point is and how the boat rides on your shoulders. Good luck with all of this -- you'll work it out I'm sure! |
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mr.barley |
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