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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Flyfishing BWCA :: May Pike & Lakers
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| Moonman |
quote Fisheggs: "Moonman which line do you recommend? Im looking at the Rio Medium 4 Full sink. The sink rate is 4-5 IPS. Do you think ill need one that sinks faster?" I think that would be a fine choice but I generally don't think the high end sinking lines warrant the price, if you are mainly trolling. You can get a Scientific Anglers level type 5 or 6 sinking line for 25.00 bucks and it will do the job. Now if you were predominantly casting sinking lines (as opposed to trolling) then the more expensive sinking lines are worth it, as their taper and weight distribution of the line allow for better casting and a more even sinking profile. If you like the RIO line, I would actually get a type 3 instead, if that is the only line you are going to get. The reason is that for casting shallows - say 10-15' for pike etc, the type 4 will sink too fast = ideally a nice slow sinker that will allow you to retrieve your fly a few feet down will work way better than one that will take you down to the bottom right away. Saying that the type 4 line (or even type 6) would be better for trolling lakers.... So what I would recommend would be a clear intermediate AND a faster sinking line. I really like the Scientific Anglers 'Stillwater' Line, or you can try the Cortland Clear Camo, or even the Cabelas Prestige No Vis clear intermediate, around 35.00. The Cabelas 'Prestige' clear intermediate line is cheap enough that you can get that one, then a 25 - 30.00 full sink type 4-6, for the same price as one higher end line. Hope that helps. Moonman. |
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| Moonman |
I have caught many lakers on the fly. I have caught some on an intermediate but many more on a full sink line, even at ice out. I love rabbit strip flies and deceivers tied with some angel hair for flash. I have been tying some stuff for spring lakers the past few weeks and will post some pics in the next few days. Really its more about presentation and getting your fly in front of fish than exact pattern, so whatever your favorite fly is, I'm sure it will work. If you can swing it, probably your best bet would be to take two rods, one with a full sink, the other the intermediate. I use 40lb fluoro with confidence for pike. On a full sink line for lakers, I use a straight length of 8lb mono usually, in really clear water I'll use 8lb fluoro but usually just maxima ultragreen. Moonman. |
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| jeroldharter |
For pike that is a good tie of year to catch them shallow. In my experience, a sunny, glass-calm day is the day for topwater. Otherwise it is almost all subsurface. Intermediate line is fine for that with an 8-9 weight rod. For a leader, a 9-ft 12-lb bass leader should be fine. For wire, I use only 13-lb Surflon Micro-Supreme (Cabela's has it). It is by far the best and ties knots easily. I use a double Uni knot for leader to wire and a loop knot for wire to fly (much better action than a knot that goes tight to the hook eye). That wire is light enough to use with topwater pike flies also. Big deceivers and bunny strip flies work well sub surface. The bunny flies can be fished slowly when needed. Muskie Mono and Tiger Wire are no good compared to the Surflon but much cheaper. Heavy fluoro like 40-lb can work but knots can get too large and the line is so thick that it won't get through the eyes of some bass flies that you might use. |
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| Moonman |
Also, I often use a full sink line, plus pull out half my backing while trolling lakers in spring - even though lakers can be shallow, they can also be down 40 feet or more in spring and you can get down to them nicely with this method. Additionally, this works really well in the middle of the day when its bright and sunny and action up high is non existent. Moonman. |
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For a sinking line that you can cast, consider this Rio Outbound: https://www.feather-craft.com/wecs.php?store=feacraft&action=display&target=FG137 How did you trip go this year? |
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| Moonman |
No that wasn't the one I was referring to, same brand but I meant the full sinking clear intermediate (the whole line, not just the tip). I don't see it on the website though. Maybe they don't sell it anymore. It does cast wonderfully, all the clear intermediates do. If you can't find a clear line in your price range, then a type 3 will work. It will also be fine for fishing streamers as per that walleye video - just wait for it to sink before starting your retrieve. You might also try Orvis, their lines are just as expensive as Scientific Anglers (in fact I think SA makes the Orvis lines...), but they often have sales on in their online bargain bin. Moonman. |
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