Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Fishing Forum :: LLC and Iron Lake, fishing regulations?
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timatkn |
Fishnfreak from your post it sounds like you were standing on the Canadian side of Curtain Falls fishing. If your outfitter said that was a gray area then I would not use them again. Whether it is a shared portage or not standing on Crown land and casting/fishing is an obvious infraction--that is if you get caught I guess :) Tim |
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moose2007 |
just wondering if anyone knows about any special fishing licenses or regulations concerning LLC or Iron Lake? Wondering if fishing on our MN license will be OK for all LLC and Iron, or if we need to obtain Canadian License for all or part of these lakes. We are planning on getting our remote crossing permits so that we can see Warrior Hill and the Petroglyphs, but would like to avoid paying on top of that for fishing. |
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airmorse |
It's not worth the risk. Just get a map and use it. The lake has just as good fishing on the U.S. side as on the Canadian side. If you want to see the Falls then get a RABC. Happy Trails. |
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timatkn |
Simple answer is NO---you still need a Quetico permit. You can get a day pass---I think the cost is $7-10--they are available at the Quetico Ranger station on Lac La Croix Indian Village. There is also an all season day Quetico Permit for approximately $70. I think Arkansasman has done this before. Tim |
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moose2007 |
thanks for the info, these permits just keep adding up so I might skip the Canadian fishing, but that hole sounds pretty tempting... he he he gray area |
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snakecharmer |
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fishnfreak |
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airmorse |
Do a search on RABC you will find many useful answers to your questions. I cut and posted the below topic from a search on this website. 03/17/2006 07:30AM For those of you who might be interested or doing what I am camping in the BWCA and Day Tripping into the Quetico. To legally do this you must acquire a RABC and a Day Trip Permit for the day you are entering. RABC can be acquired on line at Canadian Immigration or other links ($30.00 Canadian). A Day Trip Permit can be acquired at a Quetico Ranger Station, (Lac La Croix or Prairie Portage) for $12.00 Canadian. Other options include having a friend, or outiftter pick one or more up for you... they just have to have the day you are using them stamped on it. Or you can go to www.ontarioparks.com and purchase a Summer Vehicle Pass for $70.00 Canadian that is good for the entire summer. Any Questions ask me and I will answer them to the best of my knowledge... Bruce Good Paddling, Great Fishing, and God Bless All... |
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moose2007 |
But now I am confused again, do I need a Quinteco permit to fish on the Ontario side, or a Canadian fishing license? Do I need a Quinteco day use permit or a Remote area crossing permit to explore the Canadian side? I am not going to camp there, just float by and hike a bit. Canadian Mounties don't scare me, and they can't make me obey silly Canadian laws (U S A U S A!!!!), but I also don't want to get stuck paying fines. |
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overthehill |
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The Great Outdoors |
If you are fishing in what a Canadian warden perceives to be Canada and you only have a Minnesota license, he will tell you to move as you are in the Queen's waters. (if he is in a good mood) If you don't move, you will be cited. We have been buzzed by planes when fishing close to the border in the middle of the lake. Move over a bit, they leave you alone. Must be a power trip thing International portage use only applies to travel, not fishing. |
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MooseTrack |
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timatkn |
I think some people confuse what is legal for what they have gotten away with in the past. Most people that go to Rebecca Falls, Warrior Hill, Lunch or fish on the Canadian side of Lower Basswoood Falls never get fined simply for the fact that they never get caught. Your chances are slim of ever getting a fine/caught, but if you do, you could be fined or warned--depends on the mood/jurisdiction of the Canadian official. I have also heard if you cannot pay on the spot some Canadian officials will fly you out (at your expense of course) to a holding area until you do pay. They may also confiscate your gear if they so choose. An unlikely scenario, but it is possible and has happened. Tim |
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fishnfreak |
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overthehill |
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mr.barley |
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timatkn |
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mr.barley |
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The Great Outdoors |
Earlier points being, no sight seeing, no exploring, no picnics. Best bet, get in, get out-portages are meant for travel! "Explore" on the American side:) BUT, I'd really enjoy reading about this arrest in the local paper, "Canada: Man detained, because Forest was stained" Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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The Great Outdoors |
timatkn is correct, but let's clarify to eliminate all questions. An international portage is one that connects lakes on either, or both sides with the Canadian/US border running through that lake. NO PERMIT IS NEEDED to use these portages. You, however, cannot fish from the Canadian shore while using their portage, or in any Canadian water, without a Canadian license. You cannot "explore" the Canadian woods while using their portage, without having a Canadian travel permit. Normal straight line travel is no problem on either side. If you decide to stop and eat lunch, you may have the dreaded, non-existent,gray area if a Canadian warden cruises by. You will a seasoned beaver skinner by the time your sentence is served in a village near the Arctic Circle:) |
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Arkansas Man |
If you stain the Queen's soil with a RABC, on a portage... are you still illegal?? I knew I had a guilty feeling for some reason ;-) Bruce |
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The Great Outdoors |
You best hire an attorney, and send both him and your ass north to face charges:) |
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snakecharmer |
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kanoes |
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moose plums |
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overthehill |
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kellyrth |
I have no further desire to go to Canada except maybe to stain the Queens soil. |
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The Great Outdoors |
The Canadian wardens (not Mounties) would most likely follow, and stop you, if you quickly crossed back over to the U.S. side for no reason. They would have "observed" you appearing to flee the Canadian side, and use the continuous pursuit excuse because you acted in a suspicious manner. Best not to press the issue. Remember, you are not dealing with American authorities. You are dealing with another country and their laws are different. You can demand an attorney, and they will allow one. Which you may fly to your place of incarceration at your own expense, of course. |
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kellyrth |
At the time of this incident I was raising several geese at my place and if anyone on here has raised geese they know that geese love to do their job on the sidewalk. Anyway sooner or later it gets on your shoes and then on the carpet in your car. Well, as the search for contraband in my car proceeded some of the goose droppings became of interest to them. What could this substance be? With a good sized piece between his fingers the officer examined it, it didn't smell like drugs to him or taste like drugs but that didn't stop him from doing both. I gave him no help in determining what the substance was, it did make the experience much more entertaining. Evenflow, More than likely the mounties would not follow you but they would contact the U.S. authorities and they would be all over you checking every crack and crevasse for something to arrest you for. |
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Evenflow |
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kellyrth |
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The Great Outdoors |
If you fish on the Canadian side of the border, you will need a Canadian license. Minnesota side, need a Minnesota license to fish. |
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moose2007 |
Thanks. |
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snakecharmer |
From the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources: Non-residents of Canada require an Ontario Non-Resident Sport Fishing Licence or an Ontario Non-Resident Conservation Fishing Licence to fish on the Ontario side of the International Border whether you are staying overnight in Canada or not. No real gray area in that statement. |