Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Fishing Forum :: lake trout virgin.
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Codymn |
I am doing the frost river loop in a week. How did you do on Lake Trout last May? Any advice? best lakes? best camping? any additional info you care to share! :) Thanks in advance! Cody |
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cheesehead |
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Captn Tony |
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Captn Tony |
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kanoes |
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Basspro69 |
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sirbill |
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tony |
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duboly |
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CabSauv |
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marsonite |
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kanoes |
advise.... the north site on frost lake east of the crescent beach is gorgeous. take your time and enjoy the frost river more than i did. be prepared for one long day on the river if you decide to blow past the one site on bologna. on the river, be ready for alot of short paddles followed by short portages. i dont know what your loop entails, but if youre heading out of sawbill, enjoy the two long portages. (hub, zenith) have a great trip! |
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Golden Gopher |
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snakecharmer |
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kanoes |
i just learned that the lakes on my may loop...the frost river one...are NOT walleye lakes (DUH ME). ive never fished lake trout before. i know ill need a trout stamp. im going in on may 8th. i imagine they will be shallow in the water column. what "handful" of artificial lures and colors should i pack? pre thanks. Jan |
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Maverick |
Having said all that, is the season open for Lakers that early in the year? I know they are in Canada(Quetico), but didn't think they were in MN. I didn't think you needed a special stamp for lakers either, only stream trout such as brook trout? |
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TomT |
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Jerry R. |
I didn't ask, but the nice lady offered. If you hook one while fishing for other species in a Lake Trout lake you can set it loose. To fish those waters that have multiple species no stamp is needed as long as you don't keep the trout. To take that I step further, and now this is just my opinion, if you are fishing for Lake Trout and are only intending catch and release, since you are actually fishing for them you would need a stamp. Jerry |
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Maverick |
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Jeriatric |
All are correct, depending on the situation. |
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Jeriatric |
The bottom line is that the term "trout" means whatever the regulatory agency says it means. Usually, at the front of a regulations pamphlet, there is a section titled "Definitions." The definitions may contain a definition for "trout" as does the California Fishing Regulations handily on my computer desktop. According to the CA fishing regs, trout "includes all trouts, chars, steelhead, kokanee, salmon and grayling." OK. Since the last line, I've checked the Minnesota regs. They are somewhat confusing because they do not give a clear definition. It does appear that I will get a trout stamp for Minnesota waters because I hope to be in possession of a trout (char, whitefish, whatever). |
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1313 |
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bassmaster |
Wikipedia says that many trouts belong in the Char (Salmonids) family. I believe this was all based on part of kanoes original question "do I need a Trout Stamp"? |
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sirbill |
The Rapala Deep Tail Dancers are nice trolling lures for Lakers the size 11 size runs at 30 ft depth with the smaller ones at 20-25 ft. My favorite lure for Lakers howevers is the 2 3/4" (size 7) Rapala Minnow Spoon modified with the treble hook removed and replaced by a 1/0 single hook and a spinner blade fished jigging vertically or drifting with the wind. I sleep with that baby under my pillow when I'm on a good laker spot. THey have been discontinued by Rapala but are still available on the net. When I found out they were discontinued I loaded up on them at Falcon Lake Tackle website. |
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snakecharmer |
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kellyrth |
Good Luck. P.S. Buy a Trout Stamp even if you don't go trout fishing. |
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snakecharmer |
"anglers need a trout stamp validation and a fishing or sports license: 1) when fishing in designated trout streams, designated trout lakes, Lake Superior 2) or when in possession of trout or salmon." In my mind, those are the two circumstances under which you MUST have a trout stamp. I think most people targeting lake trout on non-designated waters have purchased a trout stamp because they are hoping to end up with some lake trout in possession. But I could be completely wrong. Regardless, I've already bought a trout/salmon stamp validation for '08. Good fishing! |
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Jeriatric |
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sirbill |
Somehow this reminds me of the 2nd amendment in its ability to create different opinions. Here is how I have looked at the meaning of the inclusion of the "in possession" part. I figure it could mean one of two things. 1. You are on a designated lake trout lake or near one and are not fishing however happen to have one or more in possession. How you got them doesn't matter just having them is a violation because you are in possession. If there was no "in possession" clause and you weren't seen fishing you wouldn't otherwise be in violation because the line states "when fishing". If for example the fish leaped into your canoe or it was given to you you would be OK. I actually had a 3 lb+ rainbow leap into my canoe in B.C. once and a large salmon leap out of the water, bite the top half of my pole off, and swim off with it. or 2. You can fish for trout in non-designated streams and lakes but cannot keep them as catch and release only is allowed. Personally I think #1 is the more likely and logical. If this were intended to apply to non designated lakes it likely would have been more specific. |
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kanoes |
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bassmaster |
Season opens in Minnesota 5/10. Must have Trout Stamp. |
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kanoes |
do you need to use steel leaders for lake trout? please inform me. :) |
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suko |
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moose plums |
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Maddog |
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marsonite |
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timatkn |
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Vikinfan |
If for some reason they are deeper you might also consider a keel sinker to get rapalas or spoons down deeper for trolling. Good luck |
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Maverick |
I am pretty sure you don't need any type of stamp in Quetico, which is where I have fished for them. Thanks |
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Jerry R. |
I did a bit of research on the DNR web site and a trout stamp is needed on designated trout lakes and streams. It is also needed on Lake Superior. You don't need on when you are less than 16 yo or older than 65. Most of the lakes in the BWCA are not designated trout lakes. The ones that are hold stream trout, or splake. Naturally occurring Lake Trout Lakes are not designated trout lakes and you do not need a stamp. Designated trout lakes are the ones that are stocked with stream trout. J |
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kanoes |
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kanoes |
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Kiporby |
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Jerry R. |
Designated trout lake is one that is managed for stream trout that have been stocked after the lake has been treated with chemicals to kill undesired species. Two-level lake management is where there are stream trout present, but the other species in the lake remain. No chemical treatments. These trout are also stocked. Lake Trout lake, is a lake where they are naturally occurring. Most of these are in the BWCAW. J |
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timatkn |
"Trout Stamp Trout stamp validations are printed on the ELS license. This is the only verification needed to prove purchase of the trout stamp. Purchasers may request the actual pictorial stamp for an additional $2, but it is not needed for fishing. Except as noted, anglers need a trout stamp validation and a fishing or sports license when fishing in designated trout streams, designated trout lakes, Lake Superior, or when in possession of trout or salmon. Trout stamps are not required for children less than 16 years old, adults who are 65 and older, people fishing with a 24-hour license, or people who are exempt from fishing license requirements or who receive a fishing license at no charge." The DNR interpretation explained to me by an officer was you need a trout stamp on your license just to fish at all in any designated stream or lake no matter if you fish for trout or not, but you also need a stamp if you specifically target trout anywhere else. You forgot the line "OR WHENEVER IN POSSESION OF TROUT OR SALMON" That is the kicker. A good example if you went to Thomas lake and were fishing the shallow reefs, shore casting for walleyes or Nortons you are obviously not targeting trout and it is not a designated trout lake--no need for stamp BUT if you were fishing the south end in 50-80' (obviously targeting trout) of water or had a Lake trout on your stringer you better have a trout stamp in MN. If you catch one "by accident" and release it that should not be a violation--which could happen in the spring easily--just don't put it on the stringer and you are fine. The one thing I don't know for sure is if you specifically target Lakers but do catch and release since technically you would not have any in your posession (at least not for long) that is where the regs are sketchy. Tim |
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Jerry R. |
You bring up a good point, and the regs are quite confusing. So to get further clarification, I called fisheries in Tower, and they confirm what you said. The law changed about 4 years ago, but the trout stamp part of the regs did not. I haven't fished for Lake Trout in the BW for at least four years, so lucky me. Moral of the story, dig deep when in doubt. J |
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timatkn |
Tim |
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1313 |
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Jerry R. |
Yep, I think you've got it right. Splitting hairs is what we've been doing. J |
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