Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Internal Frame Backpack
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Atrain |
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OCDave |
campnfish: "Im looking for a solo pack to go along with my CCS pioneer, curious about a traditional internal frame backpack... I have followed this thread but, restrained myself from commenting because I am a bit confused. If the CCS Rucksack is in the running, what is your attraction to an internal frame backpack. The framed backpack is certainly advantageous for hiking trips consisting of several miles per day but, will be disadvantaged when squeezing into the confines of a canoe. The addage of "Do one thing well or several thing poorly" applies. If you are seeking a backpack for distance hiking, make that your priority. If it happens to fit in your canoe then consider that a bonus. If you are seeking the best pack to squeeze into a canoe, the frame itself sould be a disqualifier. My hiking backpack is the ULA Catalyst. While it would work fine as a pair to my CCS Pioneer pack (the Catalyst fits in my Northwind Solo) I don't take it. The Rucksack is better suited to the abuse inflicted from canoe tripping. The Rucksack features more robust fabric and retails for 1/2 the price of my Catalyst. There is nowhere I would fear grabbing, yanking or lifting on the Rucksack ( I lift my loaded Cataylst only with the grab handle). For a bag to fearlessly toss, drag scuff or hang the CCS Rucksack is the sensible choice. A less sensible choice I have made is using Cuben Fiber dry bags. I have $40-$60 stiched and taped, velcro closure dry bags that do exctly what a $1 trash compactor bag does equally well. Good Luck, |
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campnfish |
Also, i wont be at Copia, but i am in the twin cities suburbs and would be curious on price on the regular size Trace Core, maybe shoot me an email on what you would want. Boonie, the torrent is a nice pack. |
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butthead |
On closeout currently, GG Outlet Email on the way. butthead |
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MagicPaddler |
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butthead |
campnfish: " Nimbus Trace Core, I have 2 of them, a small frame with woman's belt/straps, and a regular with large male parts. I could part with either or both, I have too much stuff around. I often use a 25L waterproof bag over my Ursak and cooking gear, the orange bag. A tarp with rigging and first aid kit one side pocket, REI flex-lite chair and odds /ends in the other. Very sturdy and comfortable frame, I've never aproached it comfy weight limit. It is the pack I carry when carrying the canoe. My current favorite main is a Nimbus Trace 60L, both use the same frame design and parts. Either can be sized much smaller, I have used the Core as a day hiking pack. I've worn the CCS line but prefer a framed pack belt setup with torsos over 18 inches. If your going to Copia I'd bring it along for a look see. butthead PS; Both have been discontinued but the Trace may still be in stock. They had a few when I stopped in last year. And forgot to mention the Core can hold 2 450 Bear Vaults or 1 500 and a 450 riding high, 1 Garcia. But a blue 30 L is too wide. bh |
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campnfish |
TominMpls: ""Waterproof" is a dangerous term but my Kestrel's cover has always seemed to keep it dry. Note of course that backpack rain covers don't seal shut - so they absolutely don't replace a dry bag. I put my clothes, sleeping bag, and other things I need to keep dry in dry bags inside the pack. " Tom, Do you see an issue with the Kestrel 48 and carrying a canoe, its only an 1" taller than the 38, i believe. |
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bwcasolo |
butthead: "Nimbus Trace Access 60, 85 would be the same height as the Core if the lid is removed (frame is interchangeable). ken, so the nimbus trace , either size, top off, will work with canoe portaging, top on will not? thanks. |
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butthead |
I have not used the Nimbus Trace on portages with a canoe, I use it as my large primary pack. The top/lid would need to be removed (it is designed to take off and be used as a fanny pack). I have carried the Core on 10 trips with the canoe overhead. butthead |
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sns |
It's light (~32 oz) and handles midsized loads fine. But I travel pretty light, comparatively. If you put 45 - 50 or more pounds of food/gear in it, you'd want a more robust suspension. |
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Blatz |
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campnfish |
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campnfish |
For Butthead if he reads this or others that trip with it, are you still using the Nimbus trace access, if so i believe it has a front panel you can open, how do you water proof the contents with something like this? do you only carry items that can get wet, do you have individual dry bags, etc. Or, Do you just use a contractor bag and tie it on the panel side or the top end. Also, would the Nimbus Trace be to big to bring along on a solo with a CCS pioneer, can it be compressed down or should i look at something smaller than a 60l? Im well aware of all the portage packs, and the CCS rucksack is in the running, but id like to hear more about traditional backpacks others may be using for solo trips and what they like about them. |
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TomT |
Mine's in olive green and it will hold two nalgenes on the sides. It's simple, strong, and fits up front real nice. |
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butthead |
I have no problem with the choice of a "canoe pack", just do not understand the common reasons stated not to use an Internal frame backpack. One thing I find is a proper fitted frame pack sure is more comfortable on long portages. butthead |
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Troutbum77 |
I use Granit Gear packs for backpacking and they're awesome. But for paddling I want a pack that's a little more roust and is designed to work in wet conditions. |
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