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A1t2o
05/01/2019 10:10AM
  
I have a scrap piece of Tyvek , leftover from some siding work, that I use for about half the things on that list. The floor mat for vestibule and cover for firewood/gear is the most typical use for it but it is very handy to have around. I have a bigger, yet oddly shaped, piece that I'm thinking about cutting up for specific purposes.
 
Bobaaa
05/01/2019 10:54AM
  
AmarilloJim: "I just use the thickest contractor bags I can find. Just get bigger than your packs. I double line mine."


+1
 
old_salt
05/02/2019 04:06PM
  
I use the clear plastic. Easier to find what you want and doesn’t get as hot as black plastic.
 
deepdish71
05/02/2019 04:39PM
  
old_salt: "I use the clear plastic. Easier to find what you want and doesn’t get as hot as black plastic."
Where do you get these clear bags? Are they contractor grade?
 
Jackfish
05/02/2019 05:12PM
  
deepdish71: "old_salt: "I use the clear plastic. Easier to find what you want and doesn’t get as hot as black plastic."
Where do you get these clear bags? Are they contractor grade?"
Check the link in my post above. It’s all right there.
 
A1t2o
04/30/2019 11:02AM
  
The ones at REI seem to be way bigger than my pack. Would that be a problem? I'm not talking about it sticking out of the pack though since I assume that is for rolling it up. This looks to be 6 inches wider than my pack, only 1 inch deeper though, so would that excess material be an issue or would I want to look for a smaller one?
 
HappyHuskies
04/30/2019 11:21AM
  
Not sure what size liners you're looking for but depending on the pack I'm using I use liners from Duluth Pack (come in three sizes), or liners from Gossamer Gear
(I find that these work best for tall narrow packs in the 40 to 50 liter size range), or if I need just a small liner will use a turkey roasting bag from the grocery store (I use these with packs from 25 to 40 liters).

Not sure if any of these will fit your needs, but hopefully it will help.
 
MidwestFirecraft
04/30/2019 11:30AM
  
A1t2o: "The ones at REI seem to be way bigger than my pack. Would that be a problem? I'm not talking about it sticking out of the pack though since I assume that is for rolling it up. This looks to be 6 inches wider than my pack, only 1 inch deeper though, so would that excess material be an issue or would I want to look for a smaller one?"


What pack do you have? The #4 fits the Superior One. I will be using a Kondos Outfitter Special for my May trip. Bought a #3 for it. A little extra bag has not been a problem or inconvenient for me.
 
A1t2o
04/30/2019 11:56AM
  
MidwestFirecraft: "What pack do you have? The #4 fits the Superior One. I will be using a Kondos Outfitter Special for my May trip. Bought a #3 for it. A little extra bag has not been a problem or inconvenient for me. "
I have the CCS Pioneer.

I might end up placing an order from REI so I could add on the liner pretty easily. It might not be as easy to order something else.
 
Jackfish
05/01/2019 01:48PM
  
We have CCS Pioneer Packs and line them with heavy-duty contractor clean-up bags from Mills Fleet Farm.

They're made of 3 mil plastic and are so tough, most years, the bags go right back into my storage boxes and are used again the next trip. I always get the clear bags so I can see what's inside. (They come in black, too.)

A box of 24 bags in the 42 gallon size costs $15.99. That's only 67 cents per bag, and they're as good or better than the fancy, more expensive bags.

After we've filled our packs, we just twist the top of the liner bag a few times and fold it over. When we close and buckle the top flaps of the Pioneer packs, everything stays closed. Like someone said above, the pack would probably float for days before slowly submerging. In 30+ years, we've never dumped so I'm not expecting to give this a first-hand tryout anytime soon.
 
AmarilloJim
04/30/2019 01:30PM
  
For wet items I just put them inside the outer bag so the inner bag is always dry items. I worry about not having any bags to create an air cell. My bags will float for weeks if I dump.
 
butthead
05/01/2019 08:26AM
  
I've used plastic bags in the past but for the last 15 years use a purpose built pack liner roll top bag. Ultra Sil Pack Liner
Longer lasting, roll sealed, various sizes and manufacturers. A more permanent solution, mine has over 30 trips on it.


butthead
 
MidwestFirecraft
04/30/2019 03:44PM
  
A1t2o: I have the CCS Pioneer.
I might end up placing an order from REI so I could add on the liner pretty easily. It might not be as easy to order something else."
You could ask Dan directly but I would think a #3 from REI would work really well. I like them better than black contractor bags.
 
AmarilloJim
04/30/2019 09:24AM
  
I just use the thickest contractor bags I can find. Just get bigger than your packs. I double line mine.
 
Frenchy
04/30/2019 10:32AM
  
Found these on REI site.


https://www.rei.com/product/134566/granite-gear-portage-pack-liner?CAWELAID=120217890005008069&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=16033120240&CATCI=pla-308606747401&cm_mmc=PLA_Google|404_61082|1345660001|none|_kenshoo_clickid_|pla-308606747401&lsft=cm_mmc:PLA_Google_LIA|404_61082|1345660001|none|_kenshoo_clickid_&kclid=_kenshoo_clickid_&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItoGxy5H44QIVEr7ACh1aggp2EAQYAiABEgLX_vD_BwE


Otherwise I also find heavy duty black plastic bags. Double bagging never hurts.
 
frlu0501
05/02/2019 08:25AM
  
Jackfish: "We have CCS Pioneer Packs and line them with heavy-duty contractor clean-up bags from Mills Fleet Farm. "
This is exactly what I was looking for and what I currently use! I can't seem to find them in store anymore.

Like you mentioned, these bags last for multiple trips. I don't think I've bought a box in close to 10 years.



 
BuckFlicks
05/07/2019 03:06PM
  
I am partial to the clothes/linen storage size Ziploc bags. We carry drybag style backpacks instead of Duluth style packs, but we still put our clothes and sleeping bags in the Ziploc storage bags.
 
A1t2o
05/07/2019 03:30PM
  
Jackfish: "We have CCS Pioneer Packs and line them with heavy-duty contractor clean-up bags from Mills Fleet Farm.


They're made of 3 mil plastic and are so tough, most years, the bags go right back into my storage boxes and are used again the next trip. I always get the clear bags so I can see what's inside. (They come in black, too.)


A box of 24 bags in the 42 gallon size costs $15.99. That's only 67 cents per bag, and they're as good or better than the fancy, more expensive bags.


After we've filled our packs, we just twist the top of the liner bag a few times and fold it over. When we close and buckle the top flaps of the Pioneer packs, everything stays closed. Like someone said above, the pack would probably float for days before slowly submerging. In 30+ years, we've never dumped so I'm not expecting to give this a first-hand tryout anytime soon."


I bought a pack of these and am glad I did. The only issue though is that I will probably never go through them all on my own unless I start going on more trips every year. 24 bags that last a few trips a piece 2-3 trips a piece would last me over 50 years at my current rate. I'll have to give some away to my tripping buddies. I think I could give away 15 bags and still be good for the next 20 years or so.
 
BobDobbs
05/01/2019 08:55AM
  
a few people have already recommended contractor trash bags - so my recommendation is to bring SEVERAL contractor trash bags!


sit on when taking a break on a portage
stand on when taking a hobo bath
vestibule floor mat
tent footprint
stash for wet raingear
overnite cover for your packs/PFDs
hobo washing machine (water can get pretty warm if left in the sun!)
clean place to spread your kitchen gear when cooking
cover for firewood
collector for firewood
emergency wet weather fire starter (yeah, I know, but I said EMERGENCY)
emergency reheating bag (youtube trashbag hypothermia treatment)
emergency poncho
emergency tarp
fire dousing 'bucket'
portage pack liner!


I have a fetish for contractor bags - somebody please help me!

 
SevenofNine
04/30/2019 01:42PM
  
I use contractor lawn bags from Fleet Farm. The 55 gallon bags a way bigger than necessary for the Pioneer pack but I do think you can get them in a smaller size. Or you can simply cut the excess.
 
unshavenman
05/01/2019 01:29PM
  
butthead: "I've used plastic bags in the past but for the last 15 years use a purpose built pack liner roll top bag. Ultra Sil Pack Liner
Longer lasting, roll sealed, various sizes and manufacturers. A more permanent solution, mine has over 30 trips on it.



butthead"
I also you the Sea To Summit pack liners in butthead's link. For the CCS Pioneer pack you will want the green 70L. Fits perfectly.
 
frlu0501
04/30/2019 09:19AM
  
I've ran out of my pack liners and I can't seem to find them at Fleet Farm any longer. I can no longer remember the brand or exact size. They were thick, heavy duty, clear plastic liners. I would usually find them in the farm or household supply side of Fleet Farm.

What do people use for pack liners? Or anyone know where I can find the liners mentioned above?
 
burrow1
05/02/2019 06:35PM
  
I use Sea to Sumit dry bags 35L have had mine for over 10 years. I can fit every thing in it that I need to keep dry and slides into my Osprey backpack with no fuss.
 
straighthairedcurly
04/30/2019 03:34PM
  
I buy mine from REI. Looks like someone posted a link.
 
boonie
04/30/2019 03:45PM
  
Piragis sells the clear, thick liners in 3 sizes.


Trash compactor (not contractor) bags are tough, although smaller.
 
billconner
05/02/2019 06:54PM
  
The outfitter type are twice as thick as the contractor bags - 6 mil vs 3 mil. Different. Each to their own.
 
AmarilloJim
05/01/2019 07:55AM
  
campnfish: "boonie: "Piragis sells the clear, thick liners in 3 sizes.




Trash compactor (not contractor) bags are tough, although smaller. "



I buy them at menards or fleet dale (fleetfarm), i like the compactor bags because they are white."


Just be careful not to get the scented types.
 
billconner
04/30/2019 06:31PM
  
I always found them least expensive at my regular outfitter - CCO - than piragis or REI. I do like the clear and seem much heavier than contractor bags.
 
OldNavy
04/30/2019 03:42PM
  
If you are protecting from rain or standing water in the canoe any properly sized plastic bag can work.


This type of pack liner will not prevent cross contamination with wet equipment inside, irregular shaped equipment can more easily puncture a large liner, it is difficult to access commonly used equipment, and it is not possible to seal the opening for full submersion.


Of course we are not talking about a military operation but if you relied on this method for water crossing in the military you would likely have wet equipment and a very heavy pack when exiting the water.



 
AlSG
04/30/2019 04:44PM
  
Many woodworker-supply sites sell a variety of heavy duty, clear plastic bags for use with dust collectors that would work as pack liners in a variety of thicknesses and sizes.
 
campnfish
04/30/2019 05:14PM
  
boonie: "Piragis sells the clear, thick liners in 3 sizes.



Trash compactor (not contractor) bags are tough, although smaller. "


I buy them at menards or fleet dale (fleetfarm), i like the compactor bags because they are white.
 
Jaywalker
04/30/2019 05:30PM
  
I always just go to Midwest Mountaineering in MPLS or REI nod pick up the clear liners. Each one last a 3-4 trips on average before little holes start to show up. They are just a couple bucks each.
 
TipsyPaddler
05/03/2019 06:14AM
  
unshavenman: "butthead: "I've used plastic bags in the past but for the last 15 years use a purpose built pack liner roll top bag. Ultra Sil Pack Liner
Longer lasting, roll sealed, various sizes and manufacturers. A more permanent solution, mine has over 30 trips on it.

butthead"
I also use the Sea to Summit pack liners in butthead's link. For the CCS Pioneer pack, you will want the green 70L. Fits perfectly."
+2 and the smaller (50L iirc) size fits the CCS Rucksack very well too.