Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: 14 ft mad river fiberglass canoe ID
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awbrown |
outdoornut9: "How can you tell its not fiberglass just from the pictures?" Royalex is a sandwich.Royalex is a composite material, comprising 2 outer layers of vinyl and hard acrylonitrile butadiene styrene plastic (ABS) and an inner layer of ABS foam. It is easy to see the sandwich in close ups of the gunwales. |
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sedges |
You can see the hull sandwiched between the gunwales. A fiberglass hull would be 1/32"at most. Also it doesn't have any flotation. Royalex laminate has enough air to meet flotation specs. I do believe it fits the Courier specs 14"9"x 32.5" The Courier was discontinued after 1994 and was replaced by the shorter14'6" Guide in 1995. Boat would be minimum 25 years old. |
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sedges |
How much are they asking? |
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Flashback |
Likely an old, Royalex version of a Guide. From what I see in photos, I'd say all of the wood trim except for the thwarts needs to be replaced. The bow decking is not original to the boat in my opinion; never seen anything like that on a Guide, or Courier. I've previously owned 2 royalex Guides, 1 kevlar Courier, and 1 Freedom Solo in royalex. If you pay 200.00 for the boat, plus the cost of replacing all of the wood trim, plus time & sweat equity; you've likely run up the cost to more than you'll ever be able to sell it for, if you decide to try to get your money back. Initial cost of 200.00 sounds great, until you seriously consider final/total cost. Bottom line: I'd pass it up; hassle factor too high for me . PS Sorry about double posting of one of the Guide photos. BOB |
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Flashback |
Don't misunderstand me; I absolutely love wood trim on canoes; most of the canoes i own have wood trim. Don't want wood trim on any whitewater boat. All my canoes are stored indoors, and the wood trim receives regular treatment; the wood trim on them has never been an issue. Pictured are several old Blackhawks, and one Lotus. All wood trimmed beauties; all stored indoors & regularly maintained. |
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outdoornut9 |
I had a Blackhawk at one point. It was sharp looking too! Ya, this mad river in question was kept outside by the current owner and by the looks of it under a wood pile! They had it for 2 years. I wonder what condition it was in when they got it. |
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MReid |
I know of people that do wonders with really crappy boats (trashed gunnels, big Royalex tears, etc.). You'd be starting with a boat in much better shape than many I've see. |
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outdoornut9 |
click for more pictures |
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gravelroad |
outdoornut9: "How can you tell its not fiberglass just from the pictures?" Once you've sat a few years looking at that hull interior, it's instantly obvious that it's Royalex/ABS, even without the other clues. :-) |
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