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YetiJedi |
Wow, thank you, everyone, for continuing the conversation with additional advice. Much appreciated! We just invited one of my nieces to go with us, which would be fun. Hadn't thought of the solo canoe option and let my daughters lead out this trip...intriguing! We don't have the duluth style packs. We backpack and hunt out west so our gear does fit a little better in the bow and stern. We also packed the sleeping bags, tent, tarp, and air pads in one pack and arranged it so that it could be used as a middle seat option. Chuckles...I'm glad everything turned out okay with your kids in the wind. We're pretty quick to get off the water in the wind but there are times when it comes up fast or you simply have to cover some distance. |
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YetiJedi |
1) great idea to load the canoe! Did it in our living room this evening. We filled our packs with bulky winter sleeping bags, pillows, and blankets. Yes, volume will be an issue but it may just work fine. We'll get it on the water in the spring with real gear and weight to see. 2) The insert seat recommendations are viable and, based on other comments on this site, the results are mixed and some strong preferences...but I have a friend who has two of the options and I can try those when the ice melts. 3) And, once the ice is off, we can load the canoe with the volume and weight and paddle some local water to see how it goes. We'll undoubtedly need to practice some more ultralight packing and eating, which is fine and will be part of the fun...if we go with that option. 4) Yes, I've done a similar trip, a few days shorter, but with only two people and we felt we had enough room for additional days on the water...it's the extra person and their added gear and food that complicates it for me. Again, we had a good time bringing the canoe out of the garage and loading it with "pillow packs" - so thank you for commenting. My younger daughters made it a puzzle and came up with some very viable options - fun to see them excited! We will consider shortening the trip or even taking 2 different one-week trips, renting a larger canoe, or inviting an additional person and renting a second canoe. Plenty of time to figure it out with my daughters experimenting with the options - so again, thank you for chiming in. Only a little time left until we can submit permits!!! |
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cyclones30 |
I'd try it once....fill up some duluth packs and have you 3 sit in it. If you're bored this winter, since it's yours try it on the ground (without you sitting in it) See if all your food barrels, packs, etc fit with enough space for you 3. Otherwise, rent a Seneca or the ones mentioned above and you'll be good. |
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butthead |
quoted from Wenonah FAQ's. This is the best advice and leaves the decision to you and partners as to abilities and comfort levels. If it happens your canoe does not work out renting a larger canoe is always an option. butthead |
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Chuckles |
1. My youngest (now 10) often ends up in the middle of multi-day canoe trips and has sat on: the canoe, low lawn chairs, 5-gallon buckets and various gear. At Project Aware Iowa (something that more of you should check out, see link below) this summer, we pulled a drop-in seat out of the free bin. It was similar to one of the ones posted earlier. Probably a cheaper version, so take it for what it is worth, but we returned it to the free bin at the end of the trip. 2. Make sure there is room enough in your canoe for the third passenger to sit low in the canoe if you hit rough water. By far, my worst moments in a canoe came this summer in the Adirondacks. Wind came from nowhere and turned a glass-like lake into whitewater in minutes. Out front was a canoe with two teens, plus my youngest who was braving the chop in the middle, sitting way-too-high on a rubbermaid tub. The kids did great, but the high center of gravity was nerve wracking for a Dad. After 10 minutes of simultaneous screaming and paddling at break-neck speed, I caught them and it turns out they could hear me, but there was no room for her to get down in the canoe. I dragged them to a nearby island and we repacked to make room. Project Aware link |
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cyclones30 |
Otherwise, the 3 person canoes for 3 are great. I prefer that over a tandem and solo that many others debate. When it comes to portaging, yes the 3 person is a few pounds heavier...but you don't have a second canoe to carry and basically an extra person to help portage. That can make someone that's normally a double portager into a 1.5 or single portage crew. (Same goes if you can all fit in your BW) |
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TipsyPaddler |
cyclones30: "One comment on your puzzle of putting gear in your canoe, most Duluth style packs won't fit behind the rear seat but sometimes a tall slender pack like a backpacking style will. Agree on all points! I started swapping out a CSS Pioneer with two CSS Rucks on our 3 or 4 people in a single canoe trips to better use the space like behind the rear seat (as well as making smaller loads for kids to carry). We used the Wenonah MNIII (three adults) and Northwind 20 (2 adults, 2 kids) and enjoyed paddling both with a slight preference for the Northwind 20. Portaging either canoe was no big deal once you get used to the length. |
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Ausable |
I agree with the suggestions to try loading-out the canoe on a trial. Have you taken your canoe with 2 people on a 2-week trip? I have a 17' Spirit II and I cannot imagine putting 3 people in it with gear and food enough for 2 weeks. |
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YetiJedi |
What weight limits do you recommend for gear and people? Also, any suggestions on third seat options? Thank you in advance for your help. |
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Tomcat |
YetiJedi: "Also, any suggestions on third seat options? " Drop In Seat |
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sedges |
Rent a MN 3 or Northwind 20, or find a used one. All of you will be much more comfortable and safe on a rough day. |
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KarlBAndersen1 |
Take two canoes. |
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cyclones30 |
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